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  • Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
    This fastest horse at the glue factory stuff is not a valid view.
    I disagree that our D is a horse at a glue factory.

    I think our defense is actually pretty good. Keep in mind we were playing without our best linebacker and corner (yes, I think prince is our best corner)

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    • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
      I disagree that our D is a horse at a glue factory.

      I think our defense is actually pretty good. Keep in mind we were playing without our best linebacker and corner (yes, I think prince is our best corner)
      I called it a paper tiger the other day. I think thats exactly on point.

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      • When Geno Smith and co. are moving the ball at will, you dont have a good defense.

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        • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
          I called it a paper tiger the other day. I think thats exactly on point.
          ehh I think youre wrong. We DO have lofty expectations of the defense....but as a WHOLE they are still going to be good. the weak link is definitely defense end....SOMEONE....ANYONE needs to elevate their game and stand out, or else we're just going to have zero pass rush. I'm all for that person being JPP, but, he's pretty disappointing.
          Oderint Dum Metuant

          It's too bad, I'm too good....

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          • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
            When Geno Smith and co. are moving the ball at will, you dont have a good defense.
            I'll give you the d-line because of JPP, but the interior line and Moore are looking decent.

            Our LB's with Beason should be solid. And our DB's along with Prince have my trust.

            The pass rush is the only thing that I'm unsure about and I want to wait to see what JPP does when the regular season starts.

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            • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
              ehh I think youre wrong. We DO have lofty expectations of the defense....but as a WHOLE they are still going to be good. the weak link is definitely defense end....SOMEONE....ANYONE needs to elevate their game and stand out, or else we're just going to have zero pass rush. I'm all for that person being JPP, but, he's pretty disappointing.
              Spot on

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              • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                I disagree that our D is a horse at a glue factory.

                I think our defense is actually pretty good. Keep in mind we were playing without our best linebacker and corner (yes, I think prince is our best corner)

                We'll see.

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                • I really see our back 7 being devastating this year. Teams should be afraid to throw on us. Brown and Rolle have been playing well, our CBs when Prince is playing is going to be a game of "choose your posion", and the LBs have pleasantly surprised me (more so when beason comes back im sure). In all, i'm ok with what we have. It's just kind of a bummer that we thought we had something better with JPP, and as of right now, dont...
                  Oderint Dum Metuant

                  It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                  • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
                    I really see our back 7 being devastating this year. Teams should be afraid to throw on us. Brown and Rolle have been playing well, our CBs when Prince is playing is going to be a game of "choose your posion", and the LBs have pleasantly surprised me (more so when beason comes back im sure). In all, i'm ok with what we have. It's just kind of a bummer that we thought we had something better with JPP, and as of right now, dont...
                    Yea I agree about the secondary but if our pass rush doesn't improve it won't matter. My hope is that JPP just doesn't give a damn about the preseason like he said he didn't.

                    If he begins the regular season playing like this, he should be replaced by Kiwi or Ayers.

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                    • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                      Yea I agree about the secondary but if our pass rush doesn't improve it won't matter. My hope is that JPP just doesn't give a damn about the preseason like he said he didn't.

                      If he begins the regular season playing like this, he should be replaced by Kiwi or Ayers.
                      I trust Ayers more than Kiwi, and I dont even know how well Ayers has been lol. All I know is that starting in 2013, Kiwanuka was rated the worst DE in football as a starter. Of course, in his own defense, the Giants broke him a long time ago by moving him around too much, imo...
                      Oderint Dum Metuant

                      It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                      • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
                        I trust Ayers more than Kiwi, and I dont even know how well Ayers has been lol. All I know is that starting in 2013, Kiwanuka was rated the worst DE in football as a starter. Of course, in his own defense, the Giants broke him a long time ago by moving him around too much, imo...
                        Lol I named those 2 not even out of merit, but I'd rather 2 people trying their hardest than someone playing not to get hurt or even worse someone who is hurt and can't play anymore

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                        • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                          Lol I named those 2 not even out of merit, but I'd rather 2 people trying their hardest than someone playing not to get hurt or even worse someone who is hurt and can't play anymore
                          Well, unfortunately for other DEs on the team, JPP knows he's in a position where 1) we're not getting rid of him this year and 2) he's still going to start regardless of pre-season performance.....so I guess I dont really care what he does.
                          That said...I give him 2 games before I snap and call him a bust. lol.....
                          I dont think he deserves a bigger sample size than that, myself....
                          Oderint Dum Metuant

                          It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                          • Some news:

                            ODB not playing Thursday

                            Schwartz seeing specialist today, might have decision by tomorrow

                            Moore was kicked out of practice by Coughlin.... Later Coughlin said Moore was "tired and irritated"

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                            • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
                              I really see our back 7 being devastating this year. Teams should be afraid to throw on us. Brown and Rolle have been playing well, our CBs when Prince is playing is going to be a game of "choose your posion", and the LBs have pleasantly surprised me (more so when beason comes back im sure). In all, i'm ok with what we have. It's just kind of a bummer that we thought we had something better with JPP, and as of right now, dont...
                              What the hell are you seeing that Im not? Afraid to throw on us? Geno Smith didnt seem to be having a problem. Geno friggin Smith.
                              The 1st team lbers were bad the other night. Horrible against the run and confused against the pass. Williams play in the end zone is the only play that sticks out. And its looking like JPP isnt what we thought he was. The only one showing anything on the line is Hankins.

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                              • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                                Some news:

                                ODB not playing Thursday

                                Schwartz seeing specialist today, might have decision by tomorrow

                                Moore was kicked out of practice by Coughlin.... Later Coughlin said Moore was "tired and irritated"
                                fighting with linemen?

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