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  • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
    Iran is full of ****. Why did they have so many centrifuges then? Of course they want a bomb and to believe other wise is naive.
    They are also the number one state sponsor of terror, they supplied Shiite insurgents with weapons in Iraq as well. They deserved to be sanctioned. They are our enemies.

    Lets give our enemies 150 billion to maaaaaybe not build a wmd, what sound diplomacy.
    Neocon myths and lies. Sorry. Zero credible evidence they're actually building a nuke, just as baseless as the Saddam WMD accusations. They have every right as a signatory to the NPT to enrich uranium for civilian use like any other nation in that treaty. Ironically enough Israel is the only nation which HAS nuclear weapons that they refuse to document, did NOT sign the NPT, and have actually threatened to use them forcing Nixon to intervene. But that's ok, they're our friends, but those Iranians, the mere suspicion of them developing nukes deserves a full fledged war.

    And Saudi Arabia is the single biggest exporter of terror, that's not even close. Not only do they fund and arm terrorists (remember 9/11?), they also fund to the tune of the billions their radical Wahabbist extremist Islam all over the world in these madrasas and mosques, even in the US.

    And as far as Iran being your enemy and chanting "death to America", can you really blame them? They had a democratically elected secular leader named Mosadeqh who the US overthrew because he was a socialist and wasn't playing ball. The US put a puppet Shah who tortured and killed his people and robbed them and gave the US cheap oil. Did you really expect after his overthrow by the Iranian revolution that they would just forget what the US did to them? Let's at least see what brought us to this point.
    Last edited by egyptian420; 03-01-2016, 02:22 PM.

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    • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
      They didn't attack you because you helped them, they attacked because they're radical barbarians, but they were helped fight the Soviets by the US, while the CIA knew full well these people were savages, but they saw it as "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Turned out that couldn't be farther from the truth.

      As for the attackers of 9/11 being mostly Saudi, it's interesting that the US' biggest Arab ally is the Saudis. The single biggest exporter of terrorism and terrorist ideology. We know this and the US still continues to arm them to the teeth with billions of dollars which they use to kill Yemenis and arm terrorists in Syria. This isn't hindsight, this is happening now.

      As for "Iraq was only bad because we pulled out", I am so sick of hearing that neo-conservative line. That's like saying a gang of armed people smash and break down the walls of a bank and occupy it for a few days, and then leave. And when the community sees the open bank they storm it and rob it, we say "the problem was the armed group left", no the problem was the armed group BREAKING THE PLACE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, had no WMD's, and that country and its military was decimated over what? Over nothing. The thousands of lives lost then and until today because of these terrorists are all lives lost in vain.

      Even most Republicans now admit that was a disaster, let's stop lying to ourselves and say "well it wasn't a mistake, we just needed to occupy it with American soldiers for a few hundred years until people there learned to be civil Jeffersonians". That's the neocon myth that needs to die.
      Thats NOT what I said. I said sectarian violence was under control and once we pulled out the vacuum was created.
      Why not, we still have troops in SK, Japan to keep China and NK in check and Germany to keep the Russians from trying anything. 10000 troops were keeping ISIS from their genocide... Many of the citizens wanted us to stay.
      Again its all hindsight, people forget everything Saddam was doing before we invaded, how many un resolutions he broke. And Im sure theres plenty of vets who would disagree with you about it being for nothing.

      You havent said how we should be fighting them yet. Doing nothing and ignoring them isnt working, weve been doing that the last 8 years and its made it worse.

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      • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
        Thats NOT what I said. I said sectarian violence was under control and once we pulled out the vacuum was created.
        Why not, we still have troops in SK, Japan to keep China and NK in check and Germany to keep the Russians from trying anything. 10000 troops were keeping ISIS from their genocide... Many of the citizens wanted us to stay.
        Again its all hindsight, people forget everything Saddam was doing before we invaded, how many un resolutions he broke. And Im sure theres plenty of vets who would disagree with you about it being for nothing.

        You havent said how we should be fighting them yet. Doing nothing and ignoring them isnt working, weve been doing that the last 8 years and its made it worse.
        Ok, well at least we know where we disagree. You think it's ok to have over 660 US military bases in 38 foreign countries forever basically. I'm not an American but I would bet my house that most Americans and army personnel don't think an American should die in another country over civil disputes between people that have nothing to do with America. As a point of interest, Ron Paul who disagreed with this had the most votes from current military members and veterans than any other candidate, that should tell you what the military thinks.

        And yes, Saddam was a crazy nutjob, but since after the first Gulf War, he was relatively quiet. After 9/11 he was not even close to being responsible but got hammered anyways.

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        • As for right now, you need to defend your damn border. Vet people coming in. Protect your homeland, not the Saudis and other tyrannies. Focus on this 20trillion dollar debt thats not going anywhere. More war and more foreign intervention is just dragging you into more debt and no one is talking about it.

          What happened to being for small government and limited spending? Somehow when it comes to the military and unnecessary wars the neocons throw that whole principle out the window.
          Last edited by egyptian420; 03-01-2016, 02:33 PM.

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          • Originally posted by jmike View Post
            Well the one bright side of a nuclear war wiping out nearly all of humanity is we won't have to hear about the threat of global warming from anyone anymore and the last remaining vegans will probably turn cannibal.
            You hear Leo the other night? haha
            "we need to treat the planet better while I travel the world on my yacht and my g6"

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            • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
              As for right now, you need to defend your damn border. Vet people coming in. Protect your homeland, not the Saudis and other tyrannies. Focus on this 20trillion dollar debt thats not going anywhere. More war and more foreign intervention is just dragging you into more debt and no one is talking about it.

              What happened to being for small government and limited spending? Somehow when it comes to the military and unnecessary wars the neocons throw that whole principle out the window.
              I agree with all of that only Id like to kill some these ****ers in the process.

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              • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                I agree with all of that only Id like to kill some these ****ers in the process.
                You and me both pal.....these guys destroyed my homeland and turned into a hell-hole filled with ignorant radical clowns. If it weren't for these disgusting subhuman savage barbarians I would probably still be in Egypt. But as a Christian, that's not even a thought that crosses my mind during these times.

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                • Originally posted by jmike View Post
                  It's all about timing. There are usually consequences when you are too late.
                  Derek had great timing, and great hands.

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                  • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                    I voted for John Kasich.
                    I got interviewed on TV at the Kasich town hall in Springfield.
                    I'm pretty much a star.
                    Did you get a little promo for your band in there?

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                    • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                      You and me both pal.....these guys destroyed my homeland and turned into a hell-hole filled with ignorant radical clowns. If it weren't for these disgusting subhuman savage barbarians I would probably still be in Egypt. But as a Christian, that's not even a thought that crosses my mind during these times.
                      Sorry to hear that man. Theyre a cancer, they really are.

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                      • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                        You hear Leo the other night? haha
                        "we need to treat the planet better while I travel the world on my yacht and my g6"
                        I love it when super rich people complain about "the politics of greed".
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Oliver Vernon?

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                          • Bills DE Mario Williams has been informed he's been released

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                            • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                              Bills DE Mario Williams has been informed he's been released
                              Everyone knows that.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                Everyone knows that.
                                Do they opa? You seemed pretty sure the Bills wanted to resign him last week.

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