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  • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

    [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="DavenIII"]Morning.

    SMS if you don't want us to trade for BE who do you want us to trade for? Boldin? OC?
    [/quote]

    Neither, trading is just a panic, knee jerk reaction to a problem. This regime is level headed and thank god not like our crazy fan base..

    Remember when we cut Luke P. and moved David D over to LT? People flipped the hell out, and thought Reese was nuts! People wanted to trade for a LT and Kiper was saying draft Staley. We didn't

    People wanted us to pay Strahan his money, Reese stared him down to told him to screw himself!

    Now our fan base and media has a knee jerk reaction and all of a sudden covet Edwards. I hope Reese stays pat, and builds through the draft. I am sure Couglin and Gilbride will change some of the playbook and tweak it to fit our talent. We did that past couple years so I expect it again, but in our passing game this time.

    [/quote]

    i do't think its a knee jerk reaction. We're stable or beyond at EVERY other position. We lost two of Eli's top targets... we need some serious immediate help and there is a young stud who could step in and be a great addition for us.

    I don't think its as much of a losing plax panic as ur making it out to be[/quote]

    Of course it is..

    WE NEED A WR..
    WE can't win without one.
    Our superbowl hopes are dashed without a deep threat!
    Trade for BE, or Boldin or CJ!

    That's pretty much the definition of a knee jerk reaction to losing Plax. We will be fine, the coaching staff will adjust just like they did when Shockey got traded. Notice Boss sucked at run blocking in the playoffs. So what did we do? We changed our running concepts. Now 2 WRs are gone, so I have faith, once again, we will adjust, but now in the passing game.

    Coughlin preaches balance, so it would make sense he and Gilbride go back and change some of the progressions and make it less focused on the X wr, specifically tailored for Plax's skill set.People discount the fact that the offensive staff will make adjustments, and not sit there with the same plays for Plax but for another # 1.



    [/quote]

    well there are always people over dramatic.

    But we definitly are not an over the top team with our passing game in shambles, which is where it is at right now. We do need a WR. Eli has even come out and said it, so there has to be some truth to it.

    You have faith in Gilbride adjusting? I guess your just an optimist lol.[/quote]


    Well Eli's going to come out and say it, especially if beat guys ask. They asked Tuck, and Smith, and Hixon as well. They asked the Rbs what if we draft an RB. They need stories, and quotes, so I understand their trying to see if a juicy quote or sound bites pops out.

    Gilbride and TC adjusted when Shockey got traded? How did that work out? Didn't we lead the league in rushing? That's MR. Gilbride and Mr. Coughlin for you. Of course all the fans concentrate on is the passing game, but the running game is part of the offense too. So it would be inaccurate to assume we can't adjust the passing game too.

    Nah, not an optimistic or pess. I am a realistic, perhaps on the optimistic side of the spectrum, but I go by past examples. They adjusted once, and it worked, so why say they won't do it again? That to me names no sense.
    [/quote]

    i think it was very uncharacteristic of eli to say it. It wasn't done by beat writers it was on ESPN too.

    Na I don't think they did, i think they stopped trying to adjust. We were forcing plays in for Shockey. Personally I think your giving the play calling too much credit. The personal we have was a major contributor to our success. We were just running hte ball in the first half and usually up 14-0 at the end of the first quarter.[/quote]


    No coach in the NFL stops trying to adjust. When you're in mid season you have no time to sit and re-do progressions and plays. You have to basically plug and chug, and hope that it works until you get time. Mind you we had a week 4 BYE week, so we couldn't have a change to sit and even try. The BYE week for the first round isn't enough either. It takes time to re-work stuff, install it, and rep the hell out of it. You can't do that, address issues surrounding the team, and then worry about scouting, and self scouting as well.

    No, the play calling was fine, not perfect and it did have it's moments, but my point is the how the staff adjusted from one off season to another. That's my point, and how if they did that, they would most likely do it again in the passing game.


    [/quote]

    i agree to an extent, but "sticking to the game plan" is a motto TC and KG have shown time and time again.

    See i just think we view the situations as differences. THe offense looked stagnant when Shockey was here because we attempted to adjust to keep him happy. I think we went to what we wanted to do when Shockey left cuz we felt like there wasn't pressure to get him the ball.


    I disagree that KG is a good play caller. We jammed the ball down the necks of our opponents for 9 weeks, games were over before they started. I can't put that on KG and tell him he did a hell of a job. I thoguht he did a brutal job in certain games, Pitt comes to mind. We got lucky that game
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    • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

      [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

      Well the lack of production wouldn't be accurate. We can't measure successful blocks and Boss's role in the offense run blocking. If he doesn't get better that running concept, Power G, doesn't* work, and our offense totally looks like junk.

      Plus mid season Burress shot himself, so you can't and don't have time to adjust. Like I said now that coaches are in offseason, you have time to address all this.
      [/quote]

      it can't be measured but it can be watched, Boss was not blocking as well as I remember Shockey blocking, and he clearly was not the receiving threat Shockey was.

      he was healthy though, I'll give him that.

      regardless this is not a shockey vs boss discussion we've clearly run that topic into the ground...I just feel using Boss as an example for how well we can adjust to younger players in key areas is a bad example, I wasn't particularly happy with his performance last year and believe it was the rest of the team that picked up his slack...which is ok if its one position, but then add in the fact that we are missing a capable #1 WR...and things start falling apart there is only so much slack Steve Smith and Jacobs/Bradshaw the defense and Eli can pull.
      [/quote]

      i disagree about ur statements with Boss. He became a very well rounded player last year and his blocking significantly improved.
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      • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

        [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

        Well the lack of production wouldn't be accurate. We can't measure successful blocks and Boss's role in the offense run blocking. If he doesn't get better that running concept, Power G, doesn't work, and our offense totally looks like junk.

        Plus mid season Burress shot himself, so you can't and don't have time to adjust. Like I said now that coaches are in offseason, you have time to address all this.
        [/quote]

        it can't be measured but it can be watched, Boss was not blocking as well as I remember Shockey blocking, and he clearly was not the receiving threat Shockey was.

        he was healthy though, I'll give him that.

        regardless this is not a shockey vs boss discussion we've clearly run that topic into the ground...I just feel using Boss as an example for how well we can adjust to younger players in key areas is a bad example, I wasn't particularly happy with his performance last year and believe it was the rest of the team that picked up his slack...which is ok if its one position, but then add in the fact that we are missing a capable #1 WR...and things start falling apart there is only so much slack Steve Smith and Jacobs/Bradshaw the defense and Eli can pull.
        [/quote]

        No, Boss wasn't as good as Shockey. But he got better this year, and it showed. The running concept needs the TE to seal the edge, and he played very well. In the playoffs during our superbowl year, he got thoroughly owned! It was a mess trying to see him block. And I would focus on him, because that's the positon I coached... TEs. So I was curious to see how he would do.

        It never was a Shockey vs Boss dicussion. I brought up shockey because he was good, and then got hurt. And they saw what it was like without the run blocking shockey brought to the table. And so in the offseason we added a new running concept. Same thing this year, except now it's the passing game that has suffered. So I expect adjustments as well.

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        • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

          [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

          Well the lack of production wouldn't be accurate. We can't measure successful blocks and Boss's role in the offense run blocking. If he doesn't get better that running concept, Power G, doesn't* work, and our offense totally looks like junk.

          Plus mid season Burress shot himself, so you can't and don't have time to adjust. Like I said now that coaches are in offseason, you have time to address all this.
          [/quote]

          it can't be measured but it can be watched, Boss was not blocking as well as I remember Shockey blocking, and he clearly was not the receiving threat Shockey was.

          he was healthy though, I'll give him that.

          regardless this is not a shockey vs boss discussion we've clearly run that topic into the ground...I just feel using Boss as an example for how well we can adjust to younger players in key areas is a bad example, I wasn't particularly happy with his performance last year and believe it was the rest of the team that picked up his slack...which is ok if its one position, but then add in the fact that we are missing a capable #1 WR...and things start falling apart there is only so much slack Steve Smith and Jacobs/Bradshaw the defense and Eli can pull.
          [/quote]

          No, Boss wasn't as good as Shockey. But he got better this year, and it showed. The running concept needs the TE to seal the edge, and he played very well. In the playoffs during our superbowl year, he got thoroughly owned! It was a mess trying to see him block. And I would focus on him, because that's the positon I coached... TEs. So I was curious to see how he would do.

          It never was a Shockey vs Boss dicussion. I brought up shockey because he was good, and then got hurt. And they saw what it was like without the run blocking shockey brought to the table. And so in the offseason we added a new running concept. Same thing this year, except now it's the passing game that has suffered. So I expect adjustments as well.
          [/quote]

          yea maybe, but ur only as good as ur last year and he really upped his game last year (boss)


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          • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

            [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"] I brought up shockey because he was good, and then got hurt. And they saw what it was like without the run blocking shockey brought to the table. And so in the offseason we added a new running concept. Same thing this year, except now it's the passing game that has suffered. So I expect adjustments as well.
            [/quote]

            But why come up with a new passing concept when we can just get BE and stick with the concept that we used the last two years with outstanding success (when plax was health)

            BE is just as good as Plax and has the same play style.

            Hixon is nowhere near that level...

            no Rookie WR will be either (at least its highly unlikely)

            there are only so many positions you can "Work around" like we did with Boss last year.

            we run a specific concept to protect boss, fine, then we start running another specific concept to protect Hixon...

            you begin to pigeonhole yourself into a smaller and smaller playbook which is more and more predictable.

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            • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="DavenIII"]Morning.

              SMS if you don't want us to trade for BE who do you want us to trade for? Boldin? OC?
              [/quote]

              Neither, trading is just a panic, knee jerk reaction to a problem. This regime is level headed and thank god not like our crazy fan base..

              Remember when we cut Luke P. and moved David D over to LT? People flipped the hell out, and thought Reese was nuts! People wanted to trade for a LT and Kiper was saying draft Staley. We didn't

              People wanted us to pay Strahan his money, Reese stared him down to told him to screw himself!

              Now our fan base and media has a knee jerk reaction and all of a sudden covet Edwards. I hope Reese stays pat, and builds through the draft. I am sure Couglin and Gilbride will change some of the playbook and tweak it to fit our talent. We did that past couple years so I expect it again, but in our passing game this time.

              [/quote]

              i do't think its a knee jerk reaction. We're stable or beyond at EVERY other position. We lost two of Eli's top targets... we need some serious immediate help and there is a young stud who could step in and be a great addition for us.

              I don't think its as much of a losing plax panic as ur making it out to be[/quote]

              Of course it is..

              WE NEED A WR..
              WE can't win without one.
              Our superbowl hopes are dashed without a deep threat!
              Trade for BE, or Boldin or CJ!

              That's pretty much the definition of a knee jerk reaction to losing Plax. We will be fine, the coaching staff will adjust just like they did when Shockey got traded. Notice Boss sucked at run blocking in the playoffs. So what did we do? We changed our running concepts. Now 2 WRs are gone, so I have faith, once again, we will adjust, but now in the passing game.

              Coughlin preaches balance, so it would make sense he and Gilbride go back and change some of the progressions and make it less focused on the X wr, specifically tailored for Plax's skill set.People discount the fact that the offensive staff will make adjustments, and not sit there with the same plays for Plax but for another # 1.



              [/quote]

              well there are always people over dramatic.

              But we definitly are not an over the top team with our passing game in shambles, which is where it is at right now. We do need a WR. Eli has even come out and said it, so there has to be some truth to it.

              You have faith in Gilbride adjusting? I guess your just an optimist lol.[/quote]


              Well Eli's going to come out and say it, especially if beat guys ask. They asked Tuck, and Smith, and Hixon as well. They asked the Rbs what if we draft an RB. They need stories, and quotes, so I understand their trying to see if a juicy quote or sound bites pops out.

              Gilbride and TC adjusted when Shockey got traded? How did that work out? Didn't we lead the league in rushing? That's MR. Gilbride and Mr. Coughlin for you. Of course all the fans concentrate on is the passing game, but the running game is part of the offense too. So it would be inaccurate to assume we can't adjust the passing game too.

              Nah, not an optimistic or pess. I am a realistic, perhaps on the optimistic side of the spectrum, but I go by past examples. They adjusted once, and it worked, so why say they won't do it again? That to me names no sense.
              [/quote]

              i think it was very uncharacteristic of eli to say it. It wasn't done by beat writers it was on ESPN too.

              Na I don't think they did, i think they stopped trying to adjust. We were forcing plays in for Shockey. Personally I think your giving the play calling too much credit. The personal we have was a major contributor to our success. We were just running hte ball in the first half and usually up 14-0 at the end of the first quarter.[/quote]


              No coach in the NFL stops trying to adjust. When you're in mid season you have no time to sit and re-do progressions and plays. You have to basically plug and chug, and hope that it works until you get time. Mind you we had a week 4 BYE week, so we couldn't have a change to sit and even try. The BYE week for the first round isn't enough either. It takes time to re-work stuff, install it, and rep the hell out of it. You can't do that, address issues surrounding the team, and then worry about scouting, and self scouting as well.

              No, the play calling was fine, not perfect and it did have it's moments, but my point is the how the staff adjusted from one off season to another. That's my point, and how if they did that, they would most likely do it again in the passing game.


              [/quote]

              i agree to an extent, but "sticking to the game plan" is a motto TC and KG have shown time and time again.

              See i just think we view the situations as differences. THe offense looked stagnant when Shockey was here because we attempted to adjust to keep him happy. I think we went to what we wanted to do when Shockey left cuz we felt like there wasn't pressure to get him the ball.


              I disagree that KG is a good play caller. We jammed the ball down the necks of our opponents for 9 weeks, games were over before they started. I can't put that on KG and tell him he did a hell of a job. I thoguht he did a brutal job in certain games, Pitt comes to mind. We got lucky that game[/quote]


              Again this is not about Shockey. I brought him into the fold just to illustrate his run blocking ability when we ran Power. When Boss has to run block on 27 and 28 power, he sucked! It was horrible watching him even try. But our staff saw this too and adjusted, and this year he got better, more confident, and we adjusted by adding a new running concept. Power G. And he did a sick job this year run blocking that concept.

              I never said KG was a good playcaller. But the difference is fans don't know what goes on during the game. Who do you know KG isn't calling the right play, and Eli is changing it? How many CWM plays do we have? CWM being Check with ME plays. Where you give ELi 2 plays, and HE picks the play. So when you see Eli throwing 3 straight times before the FG unit comes on, who do you know that's not Eli instead of Gilbride?? You don't.. Yet the avg fan thinks it's the OC and rips him. Now.. Does that mean I think KG is good? No, but let's not blame everything on him, especially since fans, me and you, don't know the whole story. And trust me, because I been in the coaching game, that there is another part of the story.

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              • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                OK guys, who's that 1 or 2 people that you'd totally LOSE IT and pull out your hair in anger and angst

                Ill go 1st and say Percy Harvin or Brian Cushing
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                • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                  [quote user="Kase-1"]OK guys, who's that 1 or 2 people that you'd totally LOSE IT and pull out your hair in anger and angst

                  Ill go 1st and say Percy Harvin or Brian Cushing
                  [/quote]

                  Mark Sanchez [:P]

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                  • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

                    Well the lack of production wouldn't be accurate. We can't measure successful blocks and Boss's role in the offense run blocking. If he doesn't get better that running concept, Power G, doesn't work, and our offense totally looks like junk.

                    Plus mid season Burress shot himself, so you can't and don't have time to adjust. Like I said now that coaches are in offseason, you have time to address all this.
                    [/quote]

                    it can't be measured but it can be watched, Boss was not blocking as well as I remember Shockey blocking, and he clearly was not the receiving threat Shockey was.

                    he was healthy though, I'll give him that.

                    regardless this is not a shockey vs boss discussion we've clearly run that topic into the ground...I just feel using Boss as an example for how well we can adjust to younger players in key areas is a bad example, I wasn't particularly happy with his performance last year and believe it was the rest of the team that picked up his slack...which is ok if its one position, but then add in the fact that we are missing a capable #1 WR...and things start falling apart there is only so much slack Steve Smith and Jacobs/Bradshaw the defense and Eli can pull.
                    [/quote]

                    No, Boss wasn't as good as Shockey. But he got better this year, and it showed. The running concept needs the TE to seal the edge, and he played very well. In the playoffs during our superbowl year, he got thoroughly owned! It was a mess trying to see him block. And I would focus on him, because that's the positon I coached... TEs. So I was curious to see how he would do.

                    It never was a Shockey vs Boss dicussion. I brought up shockey because he was good, and then got hurt. And they saw what it was like without the run blocking shockey brought to the table. And so in the offseason we added a new running concept. Same thing this year, except now it's the passing game that has suffered. So I expect adjustments as well.
                    [/quote]

                    yea maybe, but ur only as good as ur last year and he really upped his game last year (boss)[/quote]

                    Yeah Boss played well, and I wanted someone like Tony G. coming here, because I think Boss would have learned alot from one of the best TEs ever to play. That could have been a huge step in his development like it was for Osi, Tuck, and Kiwi to learn and watch Strahan play.

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                    • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                      [quote user="LT= Lawrence Taylor"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK guys, who's that 1 or 2 people that you'd totally LOSE IT and pull out your hair in anger and angst

                      Ill go 1st and say Percy Harvin or Brian Cushing
                      [/quote]

                      Mark Sanchez [:P]
                      [/quote]
                      LOL, that would make me punch the 1st person I see in the face
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                      • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                        [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"] I brought up shockey because he was good, and then got hurt. And they saw what it was like without the run blocking shockey brought to the table. And so in the offseason we added a new running concept. Same thing this year, except now it's the passing game that has suffered. So I expect adjustments as well.
                        [/quote]

                        But why come up with a new passing concept when we can just get BE and stick with the concept that we used the last two years with outstanding success (when plax was health)

                        BE is just as good as Plax and has the same play style.

                        Hixon is nowhere near that level...

                        no Rookie WR will be either (at least its highly unlikely)

                        there are only so many positions you can "Work around" like we did with Boss last year.

                        we run a specific concept to protect boss, fine, then we start running another specific concept to protect Hixon...

                        you begin to pigeonhole yourself into a smaller and smaller playbook which is more and more predictable.
                        [/quote]


                        Because you still have to compensate for other spots like Z, and Y Wrs. We lost toomer too. Plus you need to adjust because teams are probably watching tape on now more thoroughly to see how you did. For isntance the redskins will probably watch our playoff game and last 3-4 games and get tendency reports from it. So in order to keep moving ahead you adjust and tweak stuff. And Plax and BE have different skill sets. And you don't know that plugging BE would work. It's a completly different offensive system, with different reads, progressions, terminology, and coachign staff. This isn't the running game where a RB hits the assigned hole and basically plugs in because his OL is the same and will do their thing.

                        You're playbook doesn't get smaller. You are adding concepts remember, not just one play. You can then tag routes and change it completly. That's part of the Xs and Os of football. That's football 101 or perhaps 102. Norm Chow's system was always based on like 14 concepts, which he can tag, and he is a legend! Again, that's the fan mentally when they think football. Coaches look at it alot different because of the options you have.

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                        • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                          [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

                          And Plax and BE have different skill sets. [/quote]

                          I disagree, their skills sets are about as similar as two WR's can be imho.

                          [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]
                          You're playbook doesn't get smaller. You are adding concepts remember, not just one play. You can then tag routes and change it completly. That's part of the Xs and Os of football. That's football 101 or perhaps 102.[/quote]

                          Plax had the ability to do everything Hixon can...and MORE..which opens up a play book.
                          so does Edwards.

                          no rookie WR or Hixon can do that.


                          I understand every year you tweak the playbook because people are watching tape....but you don't have to overhaul it.

                          if we start using Hixon as a number one its like going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 its a HUGE difference...just to cover up for Hixon's inability to do many of the things most #1 WR's can do...instead... how about we just use one of our ridiclously large amount of pick (what 10 picks?) to get a WR we know will fit in and be able to do everything we asked Plax to do.

                          we have too many extra picks to not use some in trades anyhow...10 new players aren't making our starting roster.

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                          • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                            [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

                            Well the lack of production wouldn't be accurate. We can't measure successful blocks and Boss's role in the offense run blocking. If he doesn't get better that running concept, Power G, doesn't* work, and our offense totally looks like junk.

                            Plus mid season Burress shot himself, so you can't and don't have time to adjust. Like I said now that coaches are in offseason, you have time to address all this.
                            [/quote]

                            it can't be measured but it can be watched, Boss was not blocking as well as I remember Shockey blocking, and he clearly was not the receiving threat Shockey was.

                            he was healthy though, I'll give him that.

                            regardless this is not a shockey vs boss discussion we've clearly run that topic into the ground...I just feel using Boss as an example for how well we can adjust to younger players in key areas is a bad example, I wasn't particularly happy with his performance last year and believe it was the rest of the team that picked up his slack...which is ok if its one position, but then add in the fact that we are missing a capable #1 WR...and things start falling apart there is only so much slack Steve Smith and Jacobs/Bradshaw the defense and Eli can pull.
                            [/quote]

                            No, Boss wasn't as good as Shockey. But he got better this year, and it showed. The running concept needs the TE to seal the edge, and he played very well. In the playoffs during our superbowl year, he got thoroughly owned! It was a mess trying to see him block. And I would focus on him, because that's the positon I coached... TEs. So I was curious to see how he would do.

                            It never was a Shockey vs Boss dicussion. I brought up shockey because he was good, and then got hurt. And they saw what it was like without the run blocking shockey brought to the table. And so in the offseason we added a new running concept. Same thing this year, except now it's the passing game that has suffered. So I expect adjustments as well.
                            [/quote]

                            yea maybe, but ur only as good as ur last year and he really upped his game last year (boss)[/quote]

                            Yeah Boss played well, and I wanted someone like Tony G. coming here, because I think Boss would have learned alot from one of the best TEs ever to play. That could have been a huge step in his development like it was for Osi, Tuck, and Kiwi to learn and watch Strahan play.
                            [/quote]

                            i would of agreed wtih that if he wasn't our TE for the superbowl and then for a full season following. The mentor thing isn't effective if u give the the job then take it away from him i think. We're already pot committed on him and I think it would be a hold back in his development and this point
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                            • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                              [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

                              And Plax and BE have different skill sets. [/quote]

                              I disagree, their skills sets are about as similar as two WR's can be imho.

                              [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]
                              You're playbook doesn't get smaller. You are adding concepts remember, not just one play. You can then tag routes and change it completly. That's part of the Xs and Os of football. That's football 101 or perhaps 102.[/quote]

                              Plax had the ability to do everything Hixon can...and MORE..which opens up a play book.
                              so does Edwards.

                              no rookie WR or Hixon can do that.


                              I understand every year you tweak the playbook because people are watching tape....but you don't have to overhaul it.

                              if we start using Hixon as a number one its like going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 its a HUGE difference...just to cover up for Hixon's inability to do many of the things most #1 WR's can do...instead... how about we just use one of our ridiclously large amount of pick (what 10 picks?) to get a WR we know will fit in and be able to do everything we asked Plax to do.

                              we have to many extra picks to not use some in trades anyhow...10 new players aren't making our starting roster.
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                              i likie the way u respond nowadays, that blue font use to be annoying as ****
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                              • Re: DRAFT DAY PARTY @ JAY DEE's IN CARLSTAT NJ on ROUTE 17

                                [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]

                                And Plax and BE have different skill sets. [/quote]

                                I disagree, their skills sets are about as similar as two WR's can be imho.

                                [quote user="Shockey+Manning=Shocking"]
                                You're playbook doesn't get smaller. You are adding concepts remember, not just one play. You can then tag routes and change it completly. That's part of the Xs and Os of football. That's football 101 or perhaps 102.[/quote]

                                Plax had the ability to do everything Hixon can...and MORE..which opens up a play book.
                                so does Edwards.

                                no rookie WR or Hixon can do that.


                                I understand every year you tweak the playbook because people are watching tape....but you don't have to overhaul it.

                                if we start using Hixon as a number one its like going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 its a HUGE difference...just to cover up for Hixon's inability to do many of the things most #1 WR's can do...instead... how about we just use one of our ridiclously large amount of pick (what 10 picks?) to get a WR we know will fit in and be able to do everything we asked Plax to do.

                                we have to many extra picks to not use some in trades anyhow...10 new players aren't making our starting roster.
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                                i likie the way u respond nowadays, that blue font use to be annoying as ****[/quote]

                                <font color="#0000ff">What's wrong with the blue font Matt? You not like?</font>

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