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    [quote user="ny06"]

    It's a sure guarantee whenever there is a thread on Eli, the discussions will get heated. </p>


    I feel no matter what he does for the Giants he will always have his naysayers. </p>[/quote]True, it cannot be avoided. I don't completely disagree with MH, Eli did fail last season. Every interception was not squarely on his shoulders, but in the end, they were still interceptions.

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      [quote user="bigblue4417"]

      He had only 19.4 percent of his potential interceptions turn into
      actual interceptions. That total was tied for the lowest interception
      luck factor rate in the league and indicates he was a huge beneficiary
      of fortunate bounces.</p>


      Lowest interception luck factor last season

      Player Team Int Int + Nrint Interception luck factor

      Michael Vick Philadelphia Eagles 6 31 19.4%

      Josh Freeman Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6 31 19.4%

      Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers 5 22 22.7%

      Tom Brady New England Patriots 4 16 25.0%

      Kyle Orton Denver Broncos 9 35 25.7%</p>


      The interception column shows how often each quarterback was picked
      off last year. The int + nrint column shows the total number of
      interceptions and near interceptions (passes that could have been picked
      off but were dropped, tipped away, etc.). The interception luck factor
      column shows the percentage of potential interception chances that
      actually turned into interceptions.</p>


      Eli Manning wasn’t anywhere near as bad as his 2010 numbers suggest</p>


      Manning had<font color="#0000FF"> <font color="#000000">52.1</font></font> percent of his potential interceptions turn into
      interceptions, a total that was the fourth-highest in the league and was
      a prime reason Manning threw a league-high 25 interceptions. If
      Manning’s luck gets better (and it really couldn’t get much worse than
      last year) and Vick’s luck gets worse (and it couldn’t have been much
      better), it could mean as much as a 10-15 interception swing between
      these two in 2011.</p>[/quote]

      Nice statistics Landon, where'd you get them, I mean we all knew this was the case..we saw it, but to have stats to back it up is nice.

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        [quote user="byron"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"]


        I have to go and mow my lawn.</p>


        All you "its never Eli's fault" types think hard about what you've done.</p>[/quote]is that why youre so angry today? mrs mh making you do your chores?
        [/quote]Hahahaha[/quote]
        I think he earned a Z back for that one...

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        • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i cannot wait to see PAppys response to Moon and Brunells numbers


          [/quote]
          LMAO!!!!

          You roasted him on that one. What can he say? lol

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            [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i cannot wait to see PAppys response to Moon and Brunells numbers


            [/quote]
            LMAO!!!!

            You roasted him on that one. What can he say? lol
            [/quote]

            im sure he'll have something to say knowing pappy the way i do
            https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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            • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

              Zach Berman said that Kevin Boss's agent had agreed to terms with the GIants as he was on a plane back to NY - thats when they got the Oakland offer and went there
              https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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              • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                Tom Rock: Gilbride's had enuff of BEcku. "Just stay out," he tells the TE


                lol
                https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                  [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="bigblue4417"]

                  He had only 19.4 percent of his potential interceptions turn into
                  actual interceptions. That total was tied for the lowest interception
                  luck factor rate in the league and indicates he was a huge beneficiary
                  of fortunate bounces.</p>


                  Lowest interception luck factor last season

                  Player Team Int Int + Nrint Interception luck factor

                  Michael Vick Philadelphia Eagles 6 31 19.4%

                  Josh Freeman Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6 31 19.4%

                  Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers 5 22 22.7%

                  Tom Brady New England Patriots 4 16 25.0%

                  Kyle Orton Denver Broncos 9 35 25.7%</p>


                  The interception column shows how often each quarterback was picked
                  off last year. The int + nrint column shows the total number of
                  interceptions and near interceptions (passes that could have been picked
                  off but were dropped, tipped away, etc.). The interception luck factor
                  column shows the percentage of potential interception chances that
                  actually turned into interceptions.</p>


                  Eli Manning wasn’t anywhere near as bad as his 2010 numbers suggest</p>


                  Manning had<font color="#0000FF"> <font color="#000000">52.1</font></font> percent of his potential interceptions turn into
                  interceptions, a total that was the fourth-highest in the league and was
                  a prime reason Manning threw a league-high 25 interceptions. If
                  Manning’s luck gets better (and it really couldn’t get much worse than
                  last year) and Vick’s luck gets worse (and it couldn’t have been much
                  better), it could mean as much as a 10-15 interception swing between
                  these two in 2011.</p>[/quote]

                  Nice statistics Landon, where'd you get them, I mean we all knew this was the case..we saw it, but to have stats to back it up is nice.

                  [/quote]
                  It is from the ESPN Insider article about the Giants from yesterday. I posted the entire thing. It has to be less than 10 pages back...

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                  • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
                    [/quote]
                    I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
                    [/quote]

                    WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

                    Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
                    [/quote]</P>


                    Maybe #10. At best.</P>


                    [/quote]

                    stop it

                    Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

                    Eli - Rivers - Ben

                    nobody else even in the conversation

                    i'll give u 8 at worst
                    [/quote]</P>


                    Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</P>


                    Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</P>


                    Stop being so "Matt-like".</P>


                    [/quote]

                    GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

                    Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

                    ur on crack
                    [/quote]</P>


                    Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</P>


                    9 + 6 + 5= 20</P>


                    Eli = 25</P>


                    Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</P>


                    [/quote]

                    your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

                    ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

                    understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

                    Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

                    but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
                    [/quote]</P>


                    What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</P>


                    Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <U>must do</U>.</P>


                    <FONT size=4>Eli failed.</FONT></P>


                    Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</P>


                    [/quote]

                    i agree turnovers kill

                    nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

                    You failed
                    [/quote]</P>


                    Did Mark Brunnell ever throw 25 picks in Gilbride's system? How about Warren Moon?</P>


                    </P>


                    [/quote]

                    oh, how lovely that u would even bring that up

                    90 - Moon 13 INTs
                    91 - Moon 21 INTs
                    92 - Moon 12 INTs
                    93 - Moon 21 INTs
                    95 - Brunell/Beaurline 14 INTs
                    96- Brunell 20 INTs


                    [/quote]</P>


                    So the answer would be <FONT size=6>NO</FONT>.</P>


                    Don't forget to tip your waitresses before you leave.</P>
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Zach Berman said that Kevin Boss's agent had agreed to terms with the GIants as he was on a plane back to NY - thats when they got the Oakland offer and went there
                      [/quote]
                      HOLY ****?! What ever happened to being a man of your word...

                      If this is true of course

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                      • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Tom Rock: Gilbride's had enuff of BEcku. "Just stay out," he tells the TE


                        lol
                        [/quote]
                        I don't know how it's possible to have any faith in him. We have seen nothing.

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                        • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                          [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
                          [/quote]
                          I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
                          [/quote]

                          WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

                          Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
                          [/quote]</p>


                          Maybe #10. At best.</p>


                          [/quote]

                          stop it

                          Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

                          Eli - Rivers - Ben

                          nobody else even in the conversation

                          i'll give u 8 at worst
                          [/quote]</p>


                          Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


                          Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


                          Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


                          [/quote]

                          GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

                          Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

                          ur on crack
                          [/quote]</p>


                          Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


                          9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


                          Eli = 25</p>


                          Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</p>


                          [/quote]

                          your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

                          ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

                          understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

                          Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

                          but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
                          [/quote]</p>


                          What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</p>


                          Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <u>must do</u>.</p>


                          <font size="4">Eli failed.</font></p>


                          Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</p>


                          [/quote]

                          i agree turnovers kill

                          nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

                          You failed
                          [/quote]</p>


                          Did Mark Brunnell ever throw 25 picks in Gilbride's system? How about Warren Moon?</p>


                          </p>


                          [/quote]

                          oh, how lovely that u would even bring that up

                          90 - Moon 13 INTs
                          91 - Moon 21 INTs
                          92 - Moon 12 INTs
                          93 - Moon 21 INTs
                          95 - Brunell/Beaurline 14 INTs
                          96- Brunell 20 INTs


                          [/quote]</p>


                          So the answer would be <font size="6">NO</font>.</p>


                          Don't forget to tip your waitresses before you leave.</p>[/quote]

                          ohhh pappy - dont be bitter

                          we all know you've lost..

                          be a man and admit that Gilbrides offense ususally causes high interceptions because of the style it is naturally so we can all move on from this point
                          https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                          • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                            [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
                            [/quote]
                            I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
                            [/quote]

                            WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

                            Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
                            [/quote]</p>


                            Maybe #10. At best.</p>


                            [/quote]

                            stop it

                            Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

                            Eli - Rivers - Ben

                            nobody else even in the conversation

                            i'll give u 8 at worst
                            [/quote]</p>


                            Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


                            Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


                            Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


                            [/quote]

                            GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

                            Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

                            ur on crack
                            [/quote]</p>


                            Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


                            9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


                            Eli = 25</p>


                            Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</p>


                            [/quote]

                            your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

                            ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

                            understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

                            Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

                            but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
                            [/quote]</p>


                            What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</p>


                            Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <u>must do</u>.</p>


                            <font size="4">Eli failed.</font></p>


                            Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</p>


                            [/quote]

                            i agree turnovers kill

                            nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

                            You failed
                            [/quote]</p>


                            Did Mark Brunnell ever throw 25 picks in Gilbride's system? How about Warren Moon?</p>


                            </p>


                            [/quote]

                            oh, how lovely that u would even bring that up

                            90 - Moon 13 INTs
                            91 - Moon 21 INTs
                            92 - Moon 12 INTs
                            93 - Moon 21 INTs
                            95 - Brunell/Beaurline 14 INTs
                            96- Brunell 20 INTs


                            [/quote]</p>


                            So the answer would be <font size="6">NO</font>.</p>


                            Don't forget to tip your waitresses before you leave.</p>[/quote]
                            LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            You were right Matt. He owned you

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                            • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                              [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Zach Berman said that Kevin Boss's agent had agreed to terms with the GIants as he was on a plane back to NY - thats when they got the Oakland offer and went there
                              [/quote]
                              HOLY ****?! What ever happened to being a man of your word...

                              If this is true of course
                              [/quote]

                              I aint killin him for that

                              he got PAAAAAID

                              god bless him. That was a legit FA loss

                              Smith on the other hand had more of a bitter signing to it...

                              Boss did what was best.... Smith was a little ***** about it
                              https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                              • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                                [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Zach Berman said that Kevin Boss's agent had agreed to terms with the GIants as he was on a plane back to NY - thats when they got the Oakland offer and went there
                                [/quote]
                                HOLY ****?! What ever happened to being a man of your word...

                                If this is true of course
                                [/quote]

                                I aint killin him for that

                                he got PAAAAAID

                                god bless him. That was a legit FA loss

                                Smith on the other hand had more of a bitter signing to it...

                                Boss did what was best.... Smith was a little ***** about it
                                [/quote]
                                Don't get me wrong. I am glad he got paaaaaaaaaid to. I love the guy man. Plus his career won't be that long probably so it's great for him. I'm just sayin....he agreed to play here and then backed out. If that is true again but Smith do that. You can't give Boss a pass and kill Smith. Smith's agent told the Giants he had a 1 year offer on the table. Whether he said they would give the Giants a chance to match or not is also speculation.

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