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  • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I agree bandy. Like I said its just different this year. Verlander had a Nolan Ryan type dominated year. Plus the batters really don't have any SICK SICK SICK numbers. And Dezz, why don't u compare Bautista's numbers vs Grandersons
    [/quote]</p>


    <u>Granderson</u></p>



    <table class="header-stats">
    <thead>
    <tr>
    <th>AVG</th>
    <th>HR</th>
    <th>RBI</th>
    <th>OBP</th></tr></thead>
    <tbody>
    <tr>
    <td>.262</td>
    <td>41</td>
    <td>119</td>
    <td>.364</td></tr></tbody></table>runs 136</p>


    add 25 steals. </p>


    <u>Bautista</u></p>



    <table class="header-stats">
    <thead>
    <tr>
    <th>AVG</th>
    <th>HR</th>
    <th>RBI</th>
    <th>OBP</th></tr></thead>
    <tbody>
    <tr>
    <td>.302</td>
    <td>43</td>
    <td>103</td>
    <td>.447</td></tr></tbody></table></p>


    runs 105</p>


    Besides average and obp, Granderson had similar numbers or better. </p>


    You also have to put in account defense, Granderson saves runs with his great ability in centerfield. </p>


    [/quote]


    go to the ratio of runners on base for each of them cpompared to their stats. Bautista was THE ONLY player on that team lol. IMO, Bautista is more valuable than Granderson., Bautista can play third and OF
    [/quote]</p>


    You do realize Granderson put up those huge # in the 2 hole right?</p>


    His numbers would have blow Bautista's away if he was hitting 3 or 4. </p>


    </p>[/quote]

    the 2 hole is overrated in this discussion because its the 2 hole on the yankees. The whole lineup hits and gets on. So after the first inning that is typically garbage.

    GO look at how bad the bluejays are. How many 1-2-3 innings did they start off wtih and leave Bautista leading off the second inning. EVEN in the 2 hole, Granderson had more opportunities. Put Bautista on the yankees in the 2 spot and he would of demolished Granderson numbers. I really like Granderson, but has there ever been an MVP that batted 260?
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    • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

      [quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I agree bandy. Like I said its just different this year. Verlander had a Nolan Ryan type dominated year.* Plus the batters really don't have any SICK SICK SICK numbers.* And Dezz, why don't u compare Bautista's numbers vs Grandersons
      [/quote]<>[/quote]


      go to the ratio of runners on base for each of them cpompared to their stats. Bautista was THE ONLY player on that team* lol.* IMO, Bautista is more valuable than Granderson., Bautista can play third and OF
      [/quote]</P>


      You do realize Granderson put up those huge # in the 2 hole right?</P>


      His numbers would have blow Bautista's away if he was hitting 3 or 4. </P>


      *</P>[/quote]on the Jays?.. you dont think JB's numbers would also be better with the protection he'd get on the Yanks?

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      • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

        [quote user="JPizzack"]

        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]In 1999, the AL MVP race was between Pedro Martinez, and Pudge Rodriguez.

        Pedro recieved more than double the first place votes than Pudge did, but since a few voters refused to put pitchers on their ballot, Pedro was essentially moved to 2nd place in the voting.
        Law of averages....zeros don't help averages. lol

        Another thing that I see a few of you have mentioned is the ability for the "mvp" to lead his team to success. Although I agree Bautista had an MVP season, the Blue Jays are arguably not even a .500 club even with his production, so they definitely take that into consideration. Whether you agree with that or not is irellevant, because it's just how the voters do things....[/quote]

        so because the ******bag writers don't think it should happen that means im wrong?

        U asked my opinion and I gave it.
        [/quote]</p>


        I get it. I'm just saying....if it doesn't(which I'm assuming) happen, then who? lol</p>[/quote]

        by default i guess Granderson... cuz u have to make the playoffs.

        I would say if u look at Miguel Cabreras numbers they are more impressive than Grandersons


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        • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!



          .321 BA</P>


          105 RBI</P>


          32 HR's</P>


          39 SB's</P>


          All from the lead off position.</P>


          We all know who the MVP really is.</P>
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

            [quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I agree bandy. Like I said its just different this year. Verlander had a Nolan Ryan type dominated year. Plus the batters really don't have any SICK SICK SICK numbers. And Dezz, why don't u compare Bautista's numbers vs Grandersons
            [/quote]&lt;&gt;[/quote]


            go to the ratio of runners on base for each of them cpompared to their stats. Bautista was THE ONLY player on that team lol. IMO, Bautista is more valuable than Granderson., Bautista can play third and OF
            [/quote]</p>


            You do realize Granderson put up those huge # in the 2 hole right?</p>


            His numbers would have blow Bautista's away if he was hitting 3 or 4. </p>


            </p>[/quote]on the Jays?.. you dont think JB's numbers would also be better with the protection he'd get on the Yanks?[/quote]

            yea i agree bandy. Im taking my yankee hat off in this discussion and trying to be a realist...

            If you play the what iff game i think that actually hurts Grandersons case
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            • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

              [quote user="Morehead State"]

              .321 BA</P>


              105 RBI</P>


              32 HR's</P>


              39 SB's</P>


              All from the lead off position.</P>


              We all know who the MVP really is.</P>[/quote]him or Verlander

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              • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                [quote user="Morehead State"]

                .321 BA</p>


                105 RBI</p>


                32 HR's</p>


                39 SB's</p>


                All from the lead off position.</p>


                We all know who the MVP really is.</p>[/quote]

                if boston made the playoffs he would of def got it

                but we all know u gotta be playing post season ball to get this honor
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                • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                  [quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Morehead State"]

                  .321 BA</p>


                  105 RBI</p>


                  32 HR's</p>


                  39 SB's</p>


                  All from the lead off position.</p>


                  We all know who the MVP really is.</p>[/quote]him or Verlander[/quote]

                  yea and even still i take Verlander over him
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                  • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                    .321 BA</P>


                    105 RBI</P>


                    32 HR's</P>


                    39 SB's</P>


                    All from the lead off position.</P>


                    We all know who the MVP really is.</P>


                    [/quote]

                    if boston made the playoffs he would of def got it

                    but we all know u gotta be playing post season ball to get this honor
                    [/quote]</P>


                    The standard is that he must be on a contending team. Not a team that makes the playoffs. Only 4 teams make the playoffs in baseball.</P>
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="Morehead State"]

                      .321 BA</p>


                      105 RBI</p>


                      32 HR's</p>


                      39 SB's</p>


                      All from the lead off position.</p>


                      We all know who the MVP really is.</p>[/quote]him or Verlander[/quote]

                      yea and even still i take Verlander over him
                      [/quote]its close but i would too

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                      • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                        [quote user="Morehead State"]


                        .321 BA</P>


                        105 RBI</P>


                        32 HR's</P>


                        39 SB's</P>


                        All from the lead off position.</P>


                        We all know who the MVP really is.</P>


                        [/quote]</P>


                        Yeah let's give the mvp to a player who was part of the worst collapse in major league history in September. </P>


                        <FONT color=#ff0000>Bravo Morehead...</FONT></P>

                        Giants fan since the early 80s

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                        • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                          [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                          .321 BA</p>


                          105 RBI</p>


                          32 HR's</p>


                          39 SB's</p>


                          All from the lead off position.</p>


                          We all know who the MVP really is.</p>


                          [/quote]

                          if boston made the playoffs he would of def got it

                          but we all know u gotta be playing post season ball to get this honor
                          [/quote]</p>


                          The standard is that he must be on a contending team. Not a team that makes the playoffs. Only 4 teams make the playoffs in baseball.</p>[/quote]

                          we'll see then. Because i agree if they made the playoffs hes MVP

                          I guess if he doesn't get it that my case is proven right

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                          • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                            [quote user="ny06"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                            .321 BA</P>


                            105 RBI</P>


                            32 HR's</P>


                            39 SB's</P>


                            All from the lead off position.</P>


                            We all know who the MVP really is.</P>


                            [/quote]</P>


                            Yeah let's give the mvp to a player who was part of the worst collapse in major league history in September. </P>


                            <FONT color=#ff0000 size=5>Bravo Morehead...</FONT></P>


                            [/quote]</P>


                            Do you know how many women have said this to me?</P>
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                              [quote user="Morehead State"]

                              Ha Ha, your ranting!</p>


                              Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</p>


                              Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</p>


                              But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </p>



                              No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.[/quote]</p>


                              </p>

                              No Morehead, your hate is blinding you, you've even said it yourself, Eli has been our QB for 8 Years now, he's not the one improving anymore (maybe a tiny bit but not anything noticeable)</p>


                              </p>

                              Eli is a GOOD QB...has been for years...the interceptions are going down because his RECEIVERS who are young and still have a lot of improving to do...ARE improving.</p>


                              </p>

                              it's the simplest and therefore the most likely solution...your HATE just blinds you to the truth.</p>


                              </p>

                              Morehead I beg of you...step out of your darkness step into the light...Eli Manning IS a good Quarterback...and he's the leader of our NY Football Giants
                              </p>

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                              • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!



                                1. A true sports dynasty has to be over many years. (at least 10)</P>


                                2. If you win a championship, your stay the champs until another champ is crowned.</P>


                                3. The standard for a baseball MVP is generally to be on a contending team.</P>


                                4. The Yankees are still the scum of the planet.</P>
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