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  • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="lttaylor56"]Eli has a 105.6 passer rating. I am wearing his Jersey Sunday-he has earned it.
    [/quote]

    That's right around Brady's right? :P

    Morehead must HATE the fact that Eli is doing so well...as the leading member of the "Eli Haters" Fan club and all.
    [/quote]</P>


    As long as he's not throwing a lot of stupid picks, <U>Eli is fine with me.</U></P>


    [/quote]when will you love him??
    [/quote]</P>


    Is that the new standard? if you don't "love" Eli, you must be an Eli hater.</P>


    I will not succumb to the oppression on this MB.</P>


    <FONT size=4>FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!</FONT></P>


    [/quote]

    no ur a hater because of ur blatant ignorance on his throws and your reasoning...

    Eli throws the same "bad balls" as he did last year. Its just the difference of the defense not capitilizing and the our receivers actually making the plays.
    [/quote]</P>


    I disagree with you that Eli sucks this year.</P>


    I think he's actually played well.</P>


    [/quote]

    lol it must be hard to be as wrong as u are on this topic

    but u keep fighting the good fight sir
    [/quote]</P>


    So your view is that Eli isn't playing any better this season than last.</P>


    What color is the sky in your world Matt?</P>


    [/quote]

    Let me break it down to u pappy.

    Besides the wrong routes and tipped balls not happening, there was a break down done of balls that should of been intercepted. Other QBs like PEyton statistically got lucky. Eli was actually on top of that list of defenders making plays against him. The truth of the matter is that there have been a couple of balls that could of been picked that that weren't. LUCKY ON ELI.

    Eli STILL throws those same tight balls into double and triple coverage, balls you CONSTANTLY killed him for because the plays weren't made. Now that they ARE being made u think Elis made some dramatic jump in his game play. It just shows how out of touch wtih reality you are.

    Hell even in talking about the two interceptions he ahd this year, u still tried to put that redskins pick on him and NOT the Rams one. Granted you came back and said the WAsh one wasn't his fault, but u didn't have the right reasoning as WHY it wasn't his fault. Then u give him a pass for the Rams INT? It was a brutal ****in decision and ball. Which makes pretty much makes all of ur previous knocks on Eli baffling.

    He is playing better and has taken sacks in a couple of situations in where else other wise he would of tried making a play. BUT STILL, the number of times thats happened isn't nearly as dramatic as ur making it seem.

    The funny part is u tried knocking him this year already by saying YOU WANT YOUR QB TO BE A PLAYMAKER. The truth is you don't know if your coming or going and your heavily downplaying the fact that the receivers seem to have a way better grasp of the offense than they did last year. Hell they guy u've been blowing hardcore (not that I wasn't) just got benched because of his inability to run the right routes.

    Its time for you to wake up old man
    [/quote]</P>


    Ha Ha, your ranting!</P>


    Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</P>


    Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</P>


    But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </P>


    No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.</P>


    </P>


    [/quote]

    hes making the same throws into coverage that he was making lsat year... the difference is that this year the receivers are making the plays they're paid to do....


    truth hurts
    [/quote]</P>


    You can argue that the sky is green all you want Matt. It doesn't make it less blue.</P>


    [/quote]

    Moorehead u have NOTHING to back ur comments up.
    [/quote]</P>


    Really?</P>


    This year after 4 games: 8 TD's and 2 Int's.</P>


    Last year after 4 games: 5 TD's and 6 Int's.</P>


    Last year 2-2. This year 3-1.</P>


    Last year's WR's in 1st 4 games . Steve Smith, Manningham and Nicks.</P>


    This year's WR's, Victor Cruz, Nicks and Manningham for only 2 games.</P>


    </P>


    Last year: better running performance</P>


    Last year: Kevin Boss as our TE.</P>


    Last years WR's were better. Last years O line was better. And yet Eli is magically better through nothing he has done differently according to you.</P>


    Your argument is a silly as any you have ever made.</P>
    Deny everything. Admit nothing. Make counter accusations.

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    • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!



      [quote user="bigblue4417"]I am curious Morehead...

      The throw to Cruz in the Eagles game into double coverage,

      Was that a great play by Cruz to get the ball at it's highest point?

      or

      Was it a throw that the gunslinger should not have made?

      You said you want to see him be smarter with the ball and not throw into double coverage. I feel like you would have killed him if it was picked but you are ok with it because it's a TD.
      [/quote]</P>


      Thats your argument? One play?</P>


      What about the sacks he's taken this year where last year he was chucking the ball into coverage. What about all the dump off passes in the middle of the field that he didn't throw last year.</P>


      You guys need to watch the games more closely. The second half of the Rams game he started dumping the ball off. Haven't you seen that?</P>


      This is the dumbest argument I've ever had here. the guy has flat played better. He's made better decisions on the field and his productivity is directly reflective of that.</P>


      Who in there right mind wouldn't say that Eli has played much better up to this point this year than he did lasy year?</P>


      Its friggin insane. Is so obvious for God's sake.</P>
      Deny everything. Admit nothing. Make counter accusations.

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      • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

        [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"]


        [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="lttaylor56"]Eli has a 105.6 passer rating. I am wearing his Jersey Sunday-he has earned it.
        [/quote]

        That's right around Brady's right? :P

        Morehead must HATE the fact that Eli is doing so well...as the leading member of the "Eli Haters" Fan club and all.
        [/quote]</p>


        As long as he's not throwing a lot of stupid picks, <u>Eli is fine with me.</u></p>


        [/quote]when will you love him??
        [/quote]</p>


        Is that the new standard? if you don't "love" Eli, you must be an Eli hater.</p>


        I will not succumb to the oppression on this MB.</p>


        <font size="4">FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!</font></p>


        [/quote]

        no ur a hater because of ur blatant ignorance on his throws and your reasoning...

        Eli throws the same "bad balls" as he did last year. Its just the difference of the defense not capitilizing and the our receivers actually making the plays.
        [/quote]</p>


        I disagree with you that Eli sucks this year.</p>


        I think he's actually played well.</p>


        [/quote]

        lol it must be hard to be as wrong as u are on this topic

        but u keep fighting the good fight sir
        [/quote]</p>


        So your view is that Eli isn't playing any better this season than last.</p>


        What color is the sky in your world Matt?</p>


        [/quote]

        Let me break it down to u pappy.

        Besides the wrong routes and tipped balls not happening, there was a break down done of balls that should of been intercepted. Other QBs like PEyton statistically got lucky. Eli was actually on top of that list of defenders making plays against him. The truth of the matter is that there have been a couple of balls that could of been picked that that weren't. LUCKY ON ELI.

        Eli STILL throws those same tight balls into double and triple coverage, balls you CONSTANTLY killed him for because the plays weren't made. Now that they ARE being made u think Elis made some dramatic jump in his game play. It just shows how out of touch wtih reality you are.

        Hell even in talking about the two interceptions he ahd this year, u still tried to put that redskins pick on him and NOT the Rams one. Granted you came back and said the WAsh one wasn't his fault, but u didn't have the right reasoning as WHY it wasn't his fault. Then u give him a pass for the Rams INT? It was a brutal ****in decision and ball. Which makes pretty much makes all of ur previous knocks on Eli baffling.

        He is playing better and has taken sacks in a couple of situations in where else other wise he would of tried making a play. BUT STILL, the number of times thats happened isn't nearly as dramatic as ur making it seem.

        The funny part is u tried knocking him this year already by saying YOU WANT YOUR QB TO BE A PLAYMAKER. The truth is you don't know if your coming or going and your heavily downplaying the fact that the receivers seem to have a way better grasp of the offense than they did last year. Hell they guy u've been blowing hardcore (not that I wasn't) just got benched because of his inability to run the right routes.

        Its time for you to wake up old man
        [/quote]</p>


        Ha Ha, your ranting!</p>


        Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</p>


        Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</p>


        But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </p>


        No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.</p>


        </p>


        [/quote]

        hes making the same throws into coverage that he was making lsat year... the difference is that this year the receivers are making the plays they're paid to do....


        truth hurts
        [/quote]</p>


        You can argue that the sky is green all you want Matt. It doesn't make it less blue.</p>


        [/quote]

        Moorehead u have NOTHING to back ur comments up.
        [/quote]</p>


        Really?</p>


        This year after 4 games: 8 TD's and 2 Int's.</p>


        Last year after 4 games: 5 TD's and 6 Int's.</p>


        Last year 2-2. This year 3-1.</p>


        Last year's WR's in 1st 4 games . Steve Smith, Manningham and Nicks.</p>


        This year's WR's, Victor Cruz, Nicks and Manningham for only 2 games.</p>


        </p>


        Last year: better running performance</p>


        Last year: Kevin Boss as our TE.</p>


        Last years WR's were better. Last years O line was better. And yet Eli is magically better through nothing he has done differently according to you.</p>


        Your argument is a silly as any you have ever made.</p>[/quote]

        hahahaha now its time for the actual truth:

        HES STILL THROWING THE SAME KIND OF BALLS.

        last years receivers WERE NOT BETTER. The fact is that since Cruz has stepped up he outshined anything STeve Smith did last year.

        Go to the dropped balls stat - i notice u haven't mentioned that. Key drops in key situations. Tips that caused turnovers?

        Okay then we'll just ignore that.

        Hakeem Nicks is head and shoulders above better than what he was last year. The kid really has come into his own.

        The myth of not having a tight end is weak. Truth of the matter is that Ballard is on his way to have a 480 yard season with 4 TDs - Boss had 530 and 5. I'd say we're RIGHT on pace in the receiving game to get the same production basically.

        Your also heavily down playing the fact that a big part of our offense this year has been the fact that we are involving the RBs in the passing game ALOT more. That makes our receiving core better period. Last year we attemped 20 passes to our backs in the first 4 games, completed 16 for 100 yards on dot

        This year we targeted them 31 times for 24 receptions and 200 yards

        Thats also a huge push to eli's stats.
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        • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

          [quote user="Morehead State"]

          [quote user="bigblue4417"]I am curious Morehead...

          The throw to Cruz in the Eagles game into double coverage,

          Was that a great play by Cruz to get the ball at it's highest point?

          or

          Was it a throw that the gunslinger should not have made?

          You said you want to see him be smarter with the ball and not throw into double coverage. I feel like you would have killed him if it was picked but you are ok with it because it's a TD.
          [/quote]</p>


          Thats your argument? One play?</p>


          What about the sacks he's taken this year where last year he was chucking the ball into coverage. What about all the dump off passes in the middle of the field that he didn't throw last year.</p>


          You guys need to watch the games more closely. The second half of the Rams game he started dumping the ball off. Haven't you seen that?</p>


          This is the dumbest argument I've ever had here. the guy has flat played better. He's made better decisions on the field and his productivity is directly reflective of that.</p>


          Who in there right mind wouldn't say that Eli has played much better up to this point this year than he did lasy year?</p>


          Its friggin insane. Is so obvious for God's sake.</p>[/quote]

          the truth of the matter is that the significant difference in his numbers isn't from his minor better play. Its from those around him stepping their games up. That and better play calling by Gilbride to get the RBs more involved.

          You actually need to watch those games more closely, because Eli ALWAYS throws into tight spots with double and triple coverages - just like he did last year. Truth of the matter is u always said it was reckless for him to do that and I told you those are throws you have to make as QB. Everybody here has mentioned something about the flaw of your opinion on this. Its sad u choose to keep it going

          That specific play is the perfect example because the truth is if its picked you would of killed Eli for that, but since it was a TD all of a suddne "HES REALLY STEPPED HIS GAME UP"


          https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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          • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


            Ha Ha, your ranting!</p>


            Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</p>


            Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</p>


            But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </p>


            No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.[/quote]</p>



            </p>


            No Morehead, your hate is blinding you, you've even said it yourself, Eli has been our QB for 8 Years now, he's not the one improving anymore (maybe a tiny bit but not anything noticeable)</p>



            </p>


            Eli is a GOOD QB...has been for years...the interceptions are going down because his RECEIVERS who are young and still have a lot of improving to do...ARE improving.</p>



            </p>


            it's the simplest and therefore the most likely solution...your HATE just blinds you to the truth.</p>



            </p>


            Morehead I beg of you...step out of your darkness step into the light...Eli Manning IS a good Quarterback...and he's the leader of our NY Football Giants
            </p>


            [/quote]</p>


            Explain the WR thing to me because after 4 games in 09 he had MM, SS and Nicks and played great. <u>In '10 he had the same 3 WR's in the first 4 weeks (all obviously with one more yearof experience) and was horrible.</u> This season <u>he has two of them but we substitute a vet (Steve Smith) for a guy who had never caught a pass in the NFL (Victor Cruz) and is playing well again.</u></p>


            <u></u></p>


            <u>In other words....the objective facts don't support your opinion. (Of course they rarely do)</u></p>


            Eli is simply playing better. Deal with it people. Even when I compliment the guy you all argue with me.</p>


            [/quote]no. steve smith, elis favorite target went down at the beginning if 2010.

            and tell me if eli has reached his peek and "wont get any better, he is what he is" how can he be playing "well again". youre so contradicting
            [/quote]</p>


            WRONG!!!!</p>


            He played fully the first 7 games.</p>


            <u>After 4 games last year he had 22 catches for 211 yards.</u></p>


            Next question!</p>


            [/quote]and what was nicks doing? oh yea balling his *** off. just because smith didnt have 50 catches after 4 games doesnt mean he wasnt elis favorite target. you can bet that healthy colon it hurt our offense when he went down.

            and no question was asked. lol you ignore me when i ask questions and then say you answered them when i dont ask one. hahaha youre worse than a gf.
            [/quote]</p>


            You realize that you are making my point for me. (not as well as me...but still)</p>


            You are saying that Nicks was playing great and Smith was still solid. Thats exactly my point. Despite that, Eli's production was lousy after 4 games with 5 TD's and 6 picks.</p>


            This season his production is outstanding, making my point that he is playing much better than last season.</p>


            Welcome to Morehead's side. (I like it better when you are on the other side)</p>[/quote]

            Elis numbers after 4 games this year:
            80 for 125, 1060 yards, 64% 8-2 TD to INT

            After first 4 games last year:
            85 for 132, 1004 yards 65% 5-6 ratio

            seems to me like that supports my theory MUCH more

            Eli is doing the same **** that he typically does, the receivers are just playing better and not having balls bounce off their hands and run wrong routes.

            Also we haven't been getting murdered so Eli would throw some garbage time picks
            [/quote]"<font size="6">POWWW!!!"
            </font>

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            • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

              <h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">"Tomorrow
              I got the most important game in my life. I think tomorrow is the time
              to do what I've been doing the whole year." Ivan Nova</span></h6>

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              • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                [quote user="Morehead State"]

                [quote user="bigblue4417"]I am curious Morehead...

                The throw to Cruz in the Eagles game into double coverage,

                Was that a great play by Cruz to get the ball at it's highest point?

                or

                Was it a throw that the gunslinger should not have made?

                You said you want to see him be smarter with the ball and not throw into double coverage. I feel like you would have killed him if it was picked but you are ok with it because it's a TD.
                [/quote]</p>


                Thats your argument? One play?</p>


                What about the sacks he's taken this year where last year he was chucking the ball into coverage. What about all the dump off passes in the middle of the field that he didn't throw last year.</p>


                You guys need to watch the games more closely. The second half of the Rams game he started dumping the ball off. Haven't you seen that?</p>


                This is the dumbest argument I've ever had here. the guy has flat played better. He's made better decisions on the field and his productivity is directly reflective of that.</p>


                Who in there right mind wouldn't say that Eli has played much better up to this point this year than he did lasy year?</p>


                Its friggin insane. Is so obvious for God's sake.</p>[/quote]
                Yes, that one play. What is your opinion...

                I am not trying to argue with you here, I am generally on your side with this Eli thing...You know that

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                • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                  [quote user="dezzzR"]<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">"Tomorrow
                  I got the most important game in my life. I think tomorrow is the time
                  to do what I've been doing the whole year." Ivan Nova</span></h6>[/quote]
                  No pressure

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                  • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                    okay okay enough of this. I had enough of having Pappy be senile

                    Onto THEE game a couple of issues:

                    1) Dezz are u really going to pull an excuse and not come

                    2) how are we going to divy up tailgating responsibilities? Everybody just pay a certain amount for the food and byob?

                    3) Whose in for dinner the night before and where does everybody want to go?

                    I vote Steves []
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                    • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                      [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]

                      [quote user="bigblue4417"]I am curious Morehead...

                      The throw to Cruz in the Eagles game into double coverage,

                      Was that a great play by Cruz to get the ball at it's highest point?

                      or

                      Was it a throw that the gunslinger should not have made?

                      You said you want to see him be smarter with the ball and not throw into double coverage. I feel like you would have killed him if it was picked but you are ok with it because it's a TD.
                      [/quote]</p>


                      Thats your argument? One play?</p>


                      What about the sacks he's taken this year where last year he was chucking the ball into coverage. What about all the dump off passes in the middle of the field that he didn't throw last year.</p>


                      You guys need to watch the games more closely. The second half of the Rams game he started dumping the ball off. Haven't you seen that?</p>


                      This is the dumbest argument I've ever had here. the guy has flat played better. He's made better decisions on the field and his productivity is directly reflective of that.</p>


                      Who in there right mind wouldn't say that Eli has played much better up to this point this year than he did lasy year?</p>


                      Its friggin insane. Is so obvious for God's sake.</p>[/quote]
                      Yes, that one play. What is your opinion...

                      I am not trying to argue with you here, I am generally on your side with this Eli thing...You know that
                      [/quote]

                      he doesn't want to answer because he knows it would completely ruin pretty much everything he said

                      because he KNOWS that he ALWAYS kills Eli for throws like that but he slipped and used that as an example last week to say Eli's really stepped his game up


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                      • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                        And Daven i sent u two trade offers in my league

                        let me know what u think
                        https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                        • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                          [quote user="dezzzR"]<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}">"Tomorrow
                          I got the most important game in my life. I think tomorrow is the time
                          to do what I've been doing the whole year." Ivan Nova</span></h6>[/quote]isnt this the guy the Blue Jays crush? good luck!

                          i have complete faith the Yanks will role over Tigers thursday.. i'm betting on it.

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                          • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]And Daven i sent u two trade offers in my league

                            let me know what u think
                            [/quote]

                            too ticky tac, If we are gonna make a trade we need to make a trade I'm under the assumption AJ's only gonna be out 3ish weeks also...and I picked up Jones from Green bay for the hold over.

                            I would like CJ or VJ and I'm willing to give up Blount/Tolbert.

                            we could do something like AJ/Tolbert for CJ/Jacobs.

                            I don't want Hightower....he lost the starting job to Torian this week.

                            I feel like overall AJ/Tolbert will score more points then CJ/Jacobs...so you'd get the better players fantasy wise...but since AJ is missing 3 weeks that's ok with me.


                            (FYI I value AJ sightly higher then Megatron...but it's close...Tolbert is definetly better then Jacobs Fantasy wise)

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                            • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                              lol no he didn't

                              only reason Torain was in was because he hurt his shoulder
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                              • Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

                                [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]And Daven i sent u two trade offers in my league

                                let me know what u think
                                [/quote]
                                Going back to the well huh? lol

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