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      [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

      yes it does. If they were able to say that Casey Anthony was the person who caused the death of Caylee - the other things they brought forth to the trial would of been able to bring it to murder one... there was enough circumstantial to convince the jury

      and I am not more a lawyer than you are
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      No Matt, it doesn't make sense, if the circumstantial evidence is such that she wasn't even convicted, if the evidence was such that she was found innocent, then had she miraculously been found guilty (by a corrupt jury I could only imagine who decided like you are to convict someone of a crime without the evidence required to do so) there is no way in hell the judge would have allowed the Death Penalty (even if it was allowed in the state) ....unless the judge was also corrupt.

      pretty much you are asking for the jury and the judge to decide to say...**** the system..we hate this *****...Death Penalty.

      that's what your saying...whether you know it or not.

      And if you want, I can bring three lawyers into this conversation, 2 of my best friends from Highschool have passed the Bar, one is currently practicing, plus another guy I drink with at a bar 2-3 times a week happens to be a Lawyer as well, none of the specialize in criminal law...but I'm sure they can ask other lawyers that do in the circles they run.
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      again had they had evidence that it was her that disposed the body it would of been enough with the other things they brought forth in the trial to get her murder one.

      Its not a stretch at all.
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        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
        again one is one person killing themselves and the other is somebody taking somebody else's life without their consent

        It can be considered murder, as high as murder two. I spent a half day looking for assisted suicide cases that were found murder 1. I haven't been able to. Murder 2 is as high of a charge that assisted suicide could get
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        you are contradicting yourself right here, you said it can't be considered murder, but then say it can be considered murder 2.

        I will agree that it is difficult to find a murder 1 case on assisted suicide, but I don't see how that has anything to do with what we are talking about.

        the only reason I brought Dr.K. up was to show that even though his crime fits the description of Murder 1, he only got Murder 2.

        <font color="#0000FF">Murder 1 = In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing
        that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed
        after planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.</font>

        Dr.K's Murders (and they were murders if he was convicted of Murder 2 which he was) are all 3 of those things, they were unlawful, they were willful AND they were premeditated.

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          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

          again had they had evidence that it was her that disposed the body it would of been enough with the other things they brought forth in the trial to get her murder one.

          Its not a stretch at all.
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          It's not a stretch, it's just plain wrong.

          I will say, even if they had video of her disposing the body, even with all the circumstantial evidence that is HIGHLY unlikely that she would have gotten Murder 1, and even if she did I would say there there is less then a 1% chance she would have gotten the death Penalty (is the Death Penalty even allowed in that state?)

          It is likely they would have went with the accidental theory that Morehead brought up earlier...which means at worst with the evidence provided (including this magic video tape of her disposing the body) I think it's almost a sure thing she would have ended up with manslaughter.....because of the supposed accidental nature of the death.

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            [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
            again one is one person killing themselves and the other is somebody taking somebody else's life without their consent

            It can be considered murder, as high as murder two. I spent a half day looking for assisted suicide cases that were found murder 1. I haven't been able to. Murder 2 is as high of a charge that assisted suicide could get
            [/quote]

            you are contradicting yourself right here, you said it can't be considered murder, but then say it can be considered murder 2.

            I will agree that it is difficult to find a murder 1 case on assisted suicide, but I don't see how that has anything to do with what we are talking about.

            the only reason I brought Dr.K. up was to show that even though his crime fits the description of Murder 1, he only got Murder 2.

            <font color="#0000ff">Murder 1 = In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing
            that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed
            after planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.</font>

            Dr.K's Murders (and they were murders if he was convicted of Murder 2 which he was) are all 3 of those things, they were unlawful, they were willful AND they were premeditated.
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            Because bottom line if they could of proved she dumped the body, with the lies she told about making up some house keeper, her denial of DUMPING the body, the testimony of her car smelling of death (from her parents), the way she acted while the baby was missing, the way the baby was found - ur crazy to think they wouldn't of got murder one on her...

            It doesn't fit the description of murder 1 - seeing as how he DIDNT KILL ANYBODY. Murder 2 is actually the max sentence given for assisted suicide. In some states its not even considered a crime. You say he got off easy, but he actually got charged wtih the worst charge he could have. He just got the shortest sentence
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              [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

              again had they had evidence that it was her that disposed the body it would of been enough with the other things they brought forth in the trial to get her murder one.

              Its not a stretch at all.
              [/quote]

              It's not a stretch, it's just plain wrong.

              I will say, even if they had video of her disposing the body, even with all the circumstantial evidence that is HIGHLY unlikely that she would have gotten Murder 1, and even if she did I would say there there is less then a 1% chance she would have gotten the death Penalty (is the Death Penalty even allowed in that state?)

              It is likely they would have went with the accidental theory that Morehead brought up earlier...which means at worst with the evidence provided (including this magic video tape of her disposing the body) I think it's almost a sure thing she would have ended up with manslaughter.....because of the supposed accidental nature of the death.
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              no way... all the lies she would of been caught in? Murder 1 would of been guaranteed

              Florida is a death penalty state and we weren't debating whether she would have gotten it or not. I suggest that she should have. It was a personal opinion. And its not emotional:

              <font color="#0000ff"><span class="hw">first degree murder</span> n. although it varies from
              state to state, it is generally a killing which is deliberate and
              premeditated (planned, after lying in wait, by poison or as part of a
              scheme), in conjunction with felonies such as rape, burglary, arson,
              involving multiple deaths, </font><font color="#0000ff" size="6">the killing of certain types of people (such
              as a child, a police officer, a prison guard, a fellow prisoner)</font><font color="#0000ff">, or
              with certain weapons, particularly a gun. The specific criteria for
              first degree murder are established by statute in each state and by the
              United States Code in federal prosecutions. It is distinguished from
              second degree murder in which premeditation is usually absent, and from
              manslaughter which lacks premeditation and suggests that at most there
              was intent to harm rather than to kill. (See: murder, second degree murder, manslaughter, felony murder doctrine)</font>
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                This sucks, will you 2 shut the **** up please!!!

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                  [quote user="bigblue4417"]This sucks, will you 2 shut the **** up please!!!
                  [/quote]lmao

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                    [quote user="bigblue4417"]This sucks, will you 2 shut the **** up please!!!
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                    Or we will do to you what you are arguing about. And NO JURY WOULD CONVICT US.</P>
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      [quote user="Morehead State"]

                      [quote user="bigblue4417"]This sucks, will you 2 shut the **** up please!!!
                      [/quote]</p>


                      Or we will do to you what you are arguing about. And NO JURY WOULD CONVICT US.</p>[/quote]

                      im gonna poison your soy sauce on sat
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                      • Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

                        eating fast food releases the same chemicals when you take heroine......

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                          Without Justin Tuck in the line up...if we play like we did last Sunday, What is our plan to stop Fred Jackson this weekend?

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                            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Because bottom line if they could of proved she dumped the body, with the lies she told about making up some house keeper, her denial of DUMPING the body, the testimony of her car smelling of death (from her parents), the way she acted while the baby was missing, the way the baby was found - ur crazy to think they wouldn't of got murder one on her...[/quote]

                            Proving she dumped the body and that she lied about it, does not prove it wasn't an accidental death that she tried to cover up, I think you have a very limited knowledge of the legal system....proving someone lies does not equal proving they committed a murder....

                            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]It doesn't fit the description of murder 1 - seeing as how he DIDNT KILL ANYBODY. Murder 2 is actually the max sentence given for assisted suicide. In some states its not even considered a crime. You say he got off easy, but he actually got charged wtih the worst charge he could have. He just got the shortest sentence
                            [/quote]

                            If he didn't kill anyone then how did he get murder 2?
                            The sentencing is different in each state, I believe the harsher penalties end up being something like 60-80 Years in jail...people convicted of murder one get less the that a times.

                            The only state that recognizes Assisted Suicide as something other then Murder/Manslaughter is Oregon, they have a specific law that deals with it.

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                              [quote user="lttaylor56"]Without Justin Tuck in the line up...if we play like we did last Sunday, What is our plan to stop Fred Jackson this weekend?
                              [/quote]
                              This game is HUGE. He has to play. He at least needs to try and if he can't then he can't.

                              He knows it and every Giants fan knows it.

                              I think we will see alot of no huddle from the Bills as well.

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                                [quote user="Morehead State"][/quote]
                                You are going against Colt McCoy this weekend. lol

                                Just thought I would put some pep in your morning.

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