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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Truth is that most cases ARE solved by circumstantial evidence.[/quote]



    No Matt...actually you couldn't be further from the truth with that comment, I am disappointed.

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"] Had they been able to prove she dumped the body it would of been more than enough grouped with everything else. We'll never know[/quote]

    I could (or I could have my friends) find a case similar, that set some precedent that shows proving that the defendant dumped the body does not neccisarily mean that the defendant committed the murder...and you would be back to square one..but I'm not wasting my...or their time because it's common sense


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"] and I posted that about the kids because u called me emotional for suggesting that anybody that kills a minor should get teh chair. Its not emotional. I posted that because obviously the system also views the murdering of children makes a regular murder much worse. <span class="hw"></span>
    [/quote]

    you came to that conclusion because of the outcome of one case, it's an overly simplistic suggestion...that stems from a emotional reaction from ONE court case...

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      [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]proving somebody lies destroys their credibility to the jury. IF you have a person up there charged for murder whose already lied about accusing somebody else of kidnapping the baby AND lied about having anything to do with it and then dumping the body - that would go a LOOONG way in the eyes of the jury.[/quote]

      #1) Prove that the Murder was committed by the defendant.
      #2) Prove that the Murder was committed by the defendant <font size="4">(Deliberately)</font>
      #3) Prove that the murder committed by the defendant was <font size="4">(Premeditated)</font>

      Without those 3 things being met, it doesn't matter how much she lies, a Jury of her peers can not (in good faith) convict of Murder 1, and even if it does (by making the WRONG Ruling) the Judge would give a reduced sentence...because he would understand that the Jury made the incorrect decision...unless he...was also corrupt.

      Proving that she lied means NOTHING unless you can also prove those three things.



      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]And thats not true at all. Per your own website that you posted when this whole argument happened there ewre many states that had all different rulings on it. [/quote]

      here...whats not true?

      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]CERTAIN people do. I agree. I'm not saying ALL murder 1s should get the death penalty. I think it is a case by case basis (like i've said about 40 times already). BUT, I do think anybody that gets convicted of killing a minor should be put to death. Thats a personal belief, like i've said. You can say thats illogical all you want, but to me (and MANY MANY other people) it makes complete sense
      [/quote]

      I'm not saying it's illogical because I disagree with you Matt... I'm saying it because your thought is incomplete.....the legal system is WAY too complicated to just say, murder child = chair..

      you view is FAR too simplistic.

      But back to the Casey Anthony case....you must PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt these three things.

      #1) Prove that the Murder was committed by the defendant.

      #2) Prove that the Murder was committed by the defendant <font size="4">(Deliberately)</font>

      #3) Prove that the murder committed by the defendant was <font size="4">(Premeditated)

      Do that FIRST...AFTER that...then you can say she would have been convicted of Murder 1...and I will agree with that.

      THEN you get to talk about sentencing, and the fact that she lied...and did not seem remorseful in the least would give her an extended sentence...perhaps even the Death Penalty...but before you can even TALK about sentencing you MUST prove the crime is worthy of such a strict sentence.

      you haven't proven that Casey Anthony even committed a murder AT ALL...and I'm tell let you make up evidence....make something up that proves the above 3 points to be true...THEN we can talk about sentencing.
      </font>

      [/quote]

      the whole debate was theoretical

      If they found her guilty after she denied having anything to do with it they would of prosecuted her to the fullest extent of the law. I agree that she should of been innocent because they DIDNT prove the case. BUT like i said u keep hopping back and forth to what actually happened and our theoretical scenerio.

      This is why I say u flip flop

      http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/...s-an-accident/

      they were going for Murder 1 - had they convicted her you are nuts to think they wouldn't of prosectued her to the fullest extent

      and regardless I still stand behind the point that you have ignored the past 10 times i've said. Anybody convicted of killing a minor and is charged wtih Murder 1 should be put to death.

      Thats my view point that drove u mad.
      https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]<div class="report">


        Brandon Jacobs (knee) will not practice Wednesday.</p>
        </div>
        <div class="impact">
        Jacobs hasn't played or practiced since October
        2. With the Giants' bye looming in Week 7, it's very possible he'll
        just target a Week 8 return. Ahmad Bradshaw is looking at another 20
        touches this week against a Bills defense that is giving up an
        astounding 5.5 yards per carry so far this season.
        </div>[/quote]

        AB ALL DAY

        didn't thier NT just get hurt too?
        [/quote]
        Yeah. Not sure of his injury status. I'll check...

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          [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


          [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"][/quote]
          You are going against Colt McCoy this weekend. lol

          Just thought I would put some pep in your morning.
          [/quote]</p>


          I saw.</p>


          He's going against Johhny Knox and Mike Thomas. My team is getting ugly.</p>


          I do have some matchup advantages though. I still need a WR and no one want to trade me one.</p>


          [/quote]

          i have no problem making a deal with you, but a #3 RB for a #1 WR ain't happening
          [/quote]</p>


          You are rationalizing about Hightower. He stinks and Shanny is figuring that out.</p>


          [/quote]

          well if u were half the man daven was, which would be about a quarter of urself now - u would put ur money where ur mouth is

          either way, offer me a real back and u might have urself a deal
          [/quote]</p>


          Smart players will never trade with you. You only trade when you can rip someone off.</p>[/quote]


          ...says the guy who just tried trading Torrain for Santana Moss

          https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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            [quote user="Morehead State"][/quote]
            PM

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              [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]Anyone interested in Stafford?
              [/quote]

              me
              [/quote]
              Romo and ________ for Stafford
              [/quote]

              more like Stafford and _____ for Romo
              https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                [quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="lttaylor56"]Which week in our league does playoff's start?
                [/quote]
                14-16.

                1 and 2 get a bye week 14.

                3 vs 6

                4 vs 5

                and so on...
                [/quote]Interesting....so in week #16 if a team that has things wrapped up with their standings, sit's their starters it's an issue if you have their player(s). Has this ever proven to be an issue in the past?
                [/quote]
                Week 16 is the Finals. Usually most teams are still playing but yes. It has been a huge issue before. That is why most leagues don't do anything week 17 because alot of starters are sitting if their teams made the playoffs. It happened to me the first year we did this. I had Peyton and was in the final. He sat that day and so did Reggie Wayne. I lost by not much to Shock. It was also the game we lost to Carolina at home when Jon Stewart when ape **** on our D. I will hate that guy forever for that. I should be going for my 3 Peat.

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                  [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="bigblue4417"]<div class="report">


                  Brandon Jacobs (knee) will not practice Wednesday.</p>
                  </div>
                  <div class="impact">
                  Jacobs hasn't played or practiced since October
                  2. With the Giants' bye looming in Week 7, it's very possible he'll
                  just target a Week 8 return. Ahmad Bradshaw is looking at another 20
                  touches this week against a Bills defense that is giving up an
                  astounding 5.5 yards per carry so far this season.
                  </div>[/quote]i hope we see scott. im sick of ware.
                  [/quote]
                  Fear the Turtle

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                    [quote user="Morehead State"]If you had picked Rice I would have taken him.[/quote]
                    You said earlier this year you would have taken Charles fibber. Still kicking myself for that one. I was going to pick Rice for weeks and talked myself out of it at the last second. But CJ has his FB back, his blocking TE back. A bye week to practice and 3 straight home games. He has to start soon right?

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                      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]Anyone interested in Stafford?
                      [/quote]

                      me
                      [/quote]
                      Romo and ________ for Stafford
                      [/quote]

                      more like Stafford and _____ for Romo
                      [/quote]id say theyre pretty even for the most part.

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                        [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Truth is that most cases ARE solved by circumstantial evidence.[/quote]



                        No Matt...actually you couldn't be further from the truth with that comment, I am disappointed.

                        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"] Had they been able to prove she dumped the body it would of been more than enough grouped with everything else. We'll never know[/quote]

                        I could (or I could have my friends) find a case similar, that set some precedent that shows proving that the defendant dumped the body does not neccisarily mean that the defendant committed the murder...and you would be back to square one..but I'm not wasting my...or their time because it's common sense


                        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"] and I posted that about the kids because u called me emotional for suggesting that anybody that kills a minor should get teh chair. Its not emotional. I posted that because obviously the system also views the murdering of children makes a regular murder much worse. <span class="hw"></span>
                        [/quote]

                        you came to that conclusion because of the outcome of one case, it's an overly simplistic suggestion...that stems from a emotional reaction from ONE court case...
                        [/quote]

                        I shouldn't of said most

                        ALOT are though, how bout the Scott Peterson case for one?

                        No again, its not. It has nothing to do with emotion. I am a firm believer in death penalty and if u would of asked me this same quesiton before Casey Anthony ever killed her kid, I would o said the same thing. Thats you assuming things and making an *** out of yourself

                        https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                          <div class="report">


                          Giants C David Baas (burner) is tentatively expected to return for Sunday's game against the Bills.</p>
                          </div>
                          <div class="impact">
                          Baas' return is good news for Ahmad Bradshaw.
                          Backup Kevin Boothe was a downgrade as the G-Men struggled to open holes
                          against the Seahawks last week.
                          </div>

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                            [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]If you had picked Rice I would have taken him.[/quote]
                            You said earlier this year you would have taken Charles fibber. Still kicking myself for that one. I was going to pick Rice for weeks and talked myself out of it at the last second. But CJ has his FB back, his blocking TE back. A bye week to practice and 3 straight home games. He has to start soon right?
                            [/quote]

                            i actually just traded VJack &amp; Starks 4 CJ &amp; Julio in one ofd my leagues
                            https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]the whole debate was theoretical[/quote]

                              Exactly, so come up with some "theoretical" piece of evidence that would have proven those three points...when you do that, then we can talk about what she "would have" been sentenced to, but I'm letting you do that, and the best you could come up with so far was that "had they found evidence of her disposing of the body" well I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, that even had they had that evidence she would not have gotten murder 1 and thus would not have gotten the death penalty.....because there still would have been nothing to prove any of those three mandatory points I outlined above.

                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]If they found her guilty after she denied having anything to do with it they would of prosecuted her to the fullest extent of the law. I agree that she should of been innocent because they DIDNT prove the case. BUT like i said u keep hopping back and forth to what actually happened and our theoretical scenerio.[/quote]

                              In order for her to have been proven guilty (in the theoretical situation) there needed to be more evidence...SO MAKE SOMETHING UP....at the moment you are asking me...in a theoretical situation...to determine a sentence for someone who is innocent...until you show me the peice of evidence that makes her guilty I can not come up with a sentence.

                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]This is why I say u flip flop[/quote]

                              because you don't understand how a theoretical argument works I flipflop?

                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Thats my view point that drove u mad. [/quote]

                              None of your points drove me made...they rarely do, because generally there is nothing to support them....I get mad (and more at myself then anyone else) when I'm proven wrong....since you rarely have any proof about anything you say you can't make me mad.

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                                [quote user="Morehead State"]

                                [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]Anyone interested in Stafford?
                                [/quote]

                                me
                                [/quote]
                                Romo and ________ for Stafford
                                [/quote]</p>


                                No no. He thinks Freeman is a top FF QB.</p>[/quote]
                                He is at the top.....of the bottom half. lol

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