THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[lttaylor56]

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We go from Kelso to Van Wilder, talk about range.


"Nothing in life worth having comes easy" Dr. Kelso
"We are kings or pawns, emperors and fools" Napolean
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"Sherlock Holmes
"You see, but you do not observe" S. Holmes
"Worrying is like a rockin chair, it gives you something to do but doesn't get you anywhere" Van Wilder

[dezzzR]

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Eli left practice early with a stomach bug.
WHAT DID YOU DO MOREHEAD!!?!?!!!

[bigblue4417]

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Ever since Michael Jordan retired — all three times, really — the NBA
has searched for the heir to his throne. Many players have popped up as
pretenders to the throne, from Harold Miner to Jerry Stackhouse to
Vince Carter. In recent years, people have stopped trying to find a
clone and just searched for a similarly dominant great player. If you
ever wondered why LeBron James is seen as such a failure, a lot of it
has to do with his inability to meet the example set by Jordan.</p>


There are many great players in the NBA these days, most of whom have
never been directly compared to Jordan. Nevertheless, His Airness says
only one player comes close enough to his greatness to merit the
comparison. Not surprisingly, that player is Kobe Bryant. Here's what
Roland Lazenby, a great writer currently working on a Jordan book, tweeted on Sunday (via PBT):<span id="more-13283"></span></p>
<blockquote>

<font color="#0000FF">Kobe's ultimate competition is MJ. That's why MJ watches
him. MJ made people think what he was doing wasn't human. Ditto the
Kobester.</font></p>


<font color="#0000FF">I never said Kobe was better than MJ. MJ just told me Kobe's the only one to have done the work, to deserve comparison.</font></p></blockquote>


Congratulations, Kobe: Your life's work has meant something. All that
time spent aping Jordan's movements and skills has paid off. He
acknowledged you. You made it.</p>


Of course, if the notoriously petty Jordan was going to mention
anyone, it makes that he'd single out Kobe, and not just because he'd
consider the mimicry flattering. Bryant really does work harder than
everyone else, and he's been good for long enough (with no signs of
slowing down) that he may eventually top Jordan's longevity. They're
similarly insane competitors.</p>

[lttaylor56]

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[quote user="dezzzR"]Eli left practice early with a stomach bug.
WHAT DID YOU DO MOREHEAD!!?!?!!![/quote]No worries, it's in the stars...all the way baby.

[lttaylor56]

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[quote user="bigblue4417"]

Ever since Michael Jordan retired — all three times, really — the NBA
has searched for the heir to his throne. Many players have popped up as
pretenders to the throne, from Harold Miner to Jerry Stackhouse to
Vince Carter. In recent years, people have stopped trying to find a
clone and just searched for a similarly dominant great player. If you
ever wondered why LeBron James is seen as such a failure, a lot of it
has to do with his inability to meet the example set by Jordan.</p>


There are many great players in the NBA these days, most of whom have
never been directly compared to Jordan. Nevertheless, His Airness says
only one player comes close enough to his greatness to merit the
comparison. Not surprisingly, that player is Kobe Bryant. Here's what
Roland Lazenby, a great writer currently working on a Jordan book, tweeted on Sunday (via PBT):<span id="more-13283"></span></p>
<blockquote>

<font color="#0000FF">Kobe's ultimate competition is MJ. That's why MJ watches
him. MJ made people think what he was doing wasn't human. Ditto the
Kobester.</font></p>


<font color="#0000FF">I never said Kobe was better than MJ. MJ just told me Kobe's the only one to have done the work, to deserve comparison.</font></p></blockquote>


Congratulations, Kobe: Your life's work has meant something. All that
time spent aping Jordan's movements and skills has paid off. He
acknowledged you. You made it.</p>


Of course, if the notoriously petty Jordan was going to mention
anyone, it makes that he'd single out Kobe, and not just because he'd
consider the mimicry flattering. Bryant really does work harder than
everyone else, and he's been good for long enough (with no signs of
slowing down) that he may eventually top Jordan's longevity. They're
similarly insane competitors.</p>[/quote]If an athlete cares what previous great's think, which imo, they do not give a single crap, but if they did...I guess it's nice to get such recognition from a legend like MJ.

[bigblue4417]

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<div class="report">


Free agent CB Terrell Thomas resumed running Tuesday for the first time since tearing his right ACL on August 22.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Thomas had to wait over a month before undergoing
reconstructive surgery, and the right ACL tear was the second of his
football career. Emerging as a playmaking corner before the injury,
Thomas has had no contract talks with the Giants. "Once the season’s
over, it’s all about me hopefully re-signing with the Giants and moving
forward," he said. Thomas turned 27 earlier this month. He may have to
settle for a one-year, prove-it deal on the open market.
</div>

[bigblue4417]

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<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter
Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million
roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the
Colts.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim
Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his
contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million
bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay
Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical
clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money.
</div>

[JPizzack]

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[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="bigblue4417"]


Ever since Michael Jordan retired — all three times, really — the NBA has searched for the heir to his throne. Many players have popped up as pretenders to the throne, from Harold Miner to Jerry Stackhouse to Vince Carter. In recent years, people have stopped trying to find a clone and just searched for a similarly dominant great player. If you ever wondered why LeBron James is seen as such a failure, a lot of it has to do with his inability to meet the example set by Jordan.</P>


There are many great players in the NBA these days, most of whom have never been directly compared to Jordan. Nevertheless, His Airness says only one player comes close enough to his greatness to merit the comparison. Not surprisingly, that player is Kobe Bryant. Here's what Roland Lazenby, a great writer currently working on a Jordan book, tweeted on Sunday (via PBT):<SPAN id=more-13283></SPAN></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>


<FONT color=#0000ff>Kobe's ultimate competition is MJ. That's why MJ watches him. MJ made people think what he was doing wasn't human. Ditto the Kobester.</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>I never said Kobe was better than MJ. MJ just told me Kobe's the only one to have done the work, to deserve comparison.</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>


Congratulations, Kobe: Your life's work has meant something. All that time spent aping Jordan's movements and skills has paid off. He acknowledged you. You made it.</P>


Of course, if the notoriously petty Jordan was going to mention anyone, it makes that he'd single out Kobe, and not just because he'd consider the mimicry flattering. Bryant really does work harder than everyone else, and he's been good for long enough (with no signs of slowing down) that he may eventually top Jordan's longevity. They're similarly insane competitors.</P>


[/quote]If an athlete cares what previous great's think, which imo, they do not give a single crap, but if they did...I guess it's nice to get such recognition from a legend like MJ.[/quote]</P>


I read that article yesterday, and i was like "meh...who cares" until I got to the part that said:

"Congratulations, Kobe: Your life's work has meant something. All that time spent aping Jordan's movements and skills has paid off. He acknowledged you. You made it."

And i laughed so hard i almost **** myself. lol</P>

[JPizzack]

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[quote user="bigblue4417"]
<DIV class=report>


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </DIV>


[/quote]</P>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

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[quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</p></div>
<div class="impact">Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </div>


[/quote]</p>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</p>[/quote]

I disagree about Peyton. Colts stance is clear. If he is healthy to play they will keep him, if not they won't. IF hes not going to be able to play and play at his level, then you can't have a player on your team for 2 years, pay him over 50mil and not get production out of him

[Morehead State]

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[quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<DIV class=report>


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </DIV>


[/quote]</P>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</P>


[/quote]</P>


It isn't about saving money. Its about being able to field a decent team. There a thing called the salary cap. If they keep Peyton and draft Luck, there will be a minimum of $55MM dedicated to one position. Peyton has a $28MM bonus due that he said he will NOT push back. Thats NOT including his salary. The #1 slot gives a minimum of $15MM. (minimum, probably more this season) We saw all the holes on that team this past season. They will not only lose all or most of their FA's, but they will be unable to sign anyone else to built their team.</P>


They simply have to let Peyton go, or trade out of the #1 position.</P>


It aint about "saving money".</P>

[dezzzR]

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</p></div>
<div class="impact">Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </div>


[/quote]</p>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</p>[/quote]

I disagree about Peyton. Colts stance is clear. If he is healthy to play they will keep him, if not they won't. IF hes not going to be able to play and play at his level, then you can't have a player on your team for 2 years, pay him over 50mil and not get production out of him
[/quote]Yea plus take up cap. Doesnt sound to good for Peyton.

[MattMeyerBud]

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[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</p></div>
<div class="impact">Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </div>


[/quote]</p>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</p>


[/quote]</p>


It isn't about saving money. Its about being able to field a decent team. There a thing called the salary cap. If they keep Peyton and draft Luck, there will be a minimum of $55MM dedicated to one position. Peyton has a $28MM bonus due that he said he will NOT push back. Thats NOT including his salary. The #1 slot gives a minimum of $15MM. (minimum, probably more this season) We saw all the holes on that team this past season. They will not only lose all or most of their FA's, but they will be unable to sign anyone else to built their team.</p>


They simply have to let Peyton go, or trade out of the #1 position.</p>


It aint about "saving money".</p>[/quote]

welll in an indirect way it is. Its about having cap space to field the best team as possible. I understand

IF Peyton can't go this yera, the Colts have to move on

[JPizzack]

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<DIV class=report>


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </DIV>


[/quote]</P>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</P>


[/quote]

I disagree about Peyton. Colts stance is clear. If he is healthy to play they will keep him, if not they won't. IF hes not going to be able to play and play at his level, then you can't have a player on your team for 2 years, pay him over 50mil and not get production out of him
[/quote]</P>


ok i can agree with that...HOWEVER!!!!
Peyton Manning at 65% is better than any other available option right now. Even Andrew Luck.</P>

[lttaylor56]

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[quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<DIV class=report>


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Peyton Manning "will not push back" his $28 million roster bonus and will either stay with the Colts or be released by the Colts.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Per Schefter, the sides are dug in. Owner Jim Irsay isn't going to trade Manning, and Manning won't restructure his contract to allow the Colts to get something in return. The $28 million bonus is due on March 8. Irsay is staunch in his commitment to pay Manning if he's healthy, but he's going to have to receive medical clearance from neck surgery in order to see the money. </DIV>


[/quote]</P>


I'm willing to bet Colts change their tune and Manning stays. I'm sure he wants to stay anyway.

Here's the thing that bugs me:
If the Colts were to cut ties with Peyton for whatever their reasoning is, they are basically saying "Winning isn't our #1 priority right now. Saving money and rebuilding is."
And that's just not ok.

Same thing goes for Norv Turner not being fired from San Diego. That team is basically telling their fan base "Mediocrity is ok in our playbook"
How are these things right?!?! lol</P>


[/quote]

I disagree about Peyton. Colts stance is clear. If he is healthy to play they will keep him, if not they won't. IF hes not going to be able to play and play at his level, then you can't have a player on your team for 2 years, pay him over 50mil and not get production out of him
[/quote]</P>


ok i can agree with that...HOWEVER!!!!
Peyton Manning at 65% is better than any other available option right now. Even Andrew Luck.</P>[/quote]What is left for Peyton to prove in his illustrious guaranteed hof career? The injury was significant enought to keep him out an entire season. Why mess with it and try to come back?

The colts should offer him a qb coach or related position, draft Luck and let Peyton groom him for the team. That would be the wisest thing for colts to do.

Adjust or not adjust his salary however, you they want based on that. At this point in the game, it's not about money for Peyton.