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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
    <h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


    The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
    </p>
    <ul>[*]Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball. [*]If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. [*]Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage or blitzing. If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense.[/list]



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    </p>


    i'll own u on this all day ol man
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    You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


    The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


    You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


    There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>


    [/quote]

    exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

    cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

    And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
    [/quote]</p>


    Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </p>


    You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</p>


    It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</p>


    [/quote]

    Option routes was a concept originated from the run and shoot style (like the article says). Please name me another team that relies on it to the degree that we do. ITS OUR WHOLE PASSING OFFENSE

    I said its a hybrid run and shoot. Which means we took alot of concepts from it and applied it to our offense, which is true...

    still waiting to hear your upbacks response and I was making this argument WAYYY before I went to wiki. Where else would u like me to quote things from the run and shoot?

    Your pretty much denying all facts involved just because it doesn't agree with you.
    [/quote]</p>


    I have no idea what they are referring to as an "upback". It appears neither do you.</p>


    And to say it our "whole offense" is silly. We make sight adjustments to enhance our offense, not to throw more picks.</p>


    Are there sight adjustments? Yes. Just like every other team. It didn't make Eli throw 25 picks last year as you claimed.</p>


    [/quote]

    actually, i do...

    if u watched the past few weeks with the Pats, they way they've used Keith Hernandez

    The position that Cooley has been known to play...

    i guess its just ironic that we base our whole pasisng offense on sight adjustment and that everytime Gilbride has run has had a high interception rate...


    [/quote]</p>


    And how many picks does Tom Brady throw in that system?</p>[/quote]

    i would say the closest thing that the pats run is the west coast with the dink and dunks
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      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


      And I don't expect you to quote any source. I expect that since you have such a strong view, you should have seen it in use extensively, understand what you have seen, and then apply it to the Giants offense. I'm getting none of that. I'm getting wiki references. That great source of NFL knowledge.</P>


      The fact that you are reading about it demonstrates that you don't have any idea how it works.</P>


      [/quote]

      well once common sense wouldn't get through to you, i had to pull references

      my point has been made and its right

      yours, as usual, is offbase

      enjoy vacation
      [/quote]</P>


      You've ruined it. *******!</P>
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        [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


        And I don't expect you to quote any source. I expect that since you have such a strong view, you should have seen it in use extensively, understand what you have seen, and then apply it to the Giants offense. I'm getting none of that. I'm getting wiki references. That great source of NFL knowledge.</p>


        The fact that you are reading about it demonstrates that you don't have any idea how it works.</p>


        [/quote]

        well once common sense wouldn't get through to you, i had to pull references

        my point has been made and its right

        yours, as usual, is offbase

        enjoy vacation
        [/quote]</p>


        You've ruined it. *******!</p>[/quote]

        lol
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          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="dezzzR"]I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.
          [/quote]
          You are not supposed to admit that.
          [/quote]

          whats a better trade for DHow???

          Amare &amp; Chandler

          or

          Bynum and Gasol
          [/quote]
          Is this a serious question? lol

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            [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="dezzzR"]I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.
            [/quote]
            You are not supposed to admit that.
            [/quote]

            whats a better trade for DHow???

            Amare &amp; Chandler

            or

            Bynum and Gasol
            [/quote]
            Is this a serious question? lol
            [/quote]

            say Gasol n Bynum so i can lolz
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            • Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="dezzzR"]I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.
              [/quote]
              You are not supposed to admit that.
              [/quote]

              whats a better trade for DHow???

              Amare &amp; Chandler

              or

              Bynum and Gasol
              [/quote]
              Is this a serious question? lol
              [/quote]

              say Gasol n Bynum so i can lolz
              [/quote]
              Gasol&gt;Amare

              Bynum&gt;Chandler by a loooong shot

              but continue....

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              • Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

                [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="dezzzR"]I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.
                [/quote]
                You are not supposed to admit that.
                [/quote]

                whats a better trade for DHow???

                Amare &amp; Chandler

                or

                Bynum and Gasol
                [/quote]
                Is this a serious question? lol
                [/quote]


                say Gasol n Bynum so i can lolz
                [/quote]
                Gasol&gt;Amare

                Bynum&gt;Chandler by a loooong shot

                but continue....
                [/quote]


                gasol is not better than Stoudemire and a big of draw on the business side either


                Bynum
                is over rated as you know, but either way he doesn't provide what
                Chandler provides defensively which is exactly what the magic would want
                in losing howard


                not only that they are hooked long term and wont' have to worry about resigning Bynum

                plus Stoudemire is 2 years younger than gasol which is huge when taking into account the biggest player u'd be getting back. And Tyson is still 29. Obviously its not 24, but its absolutely no old
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                  Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

                  The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

                  I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</P>
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                  It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                  • Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

                    ďEli, without question, will go down as the best quarterback in Giants
                    history,Ē Simms said. ďAnd thatís great. Iím not worried about my status
                    or where I stand. Itís a different time and era.Ē

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                      Amare's knee is shot. Always in pain always has to ice them down.

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                        [quote user="bigblue4417"]ďEli, without question, will go down as the best quarterback in Giants history,Ē Simms said. ďAnd thatís great. Iím not worried about my status or where I stand. Itís a different time and era.Ē[/quote]</P>


                        Don't be trying to poke me with a stick on my vacation.</P>


                        As Phil said......different time and era.</P>


                        Now leave me alone people!!</P>
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                          [quote user="JPizzack"]

                          Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

                          The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

                          I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>[/quote]

                          Stoudemire can't play with another big man and no point guard

                          im not a fan of D'Antoni anymore either BUT it has nothing to do with Dantoni

                          if u get howard, you are getting DWill

                          having DWill &amp; Howard would compliment Melo the best. Chandler doesn't have enough of an offensive game
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                            First day at the new job.

                            Anyone watch the pro bowl?

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                              [quote user="lawl"]Amare's knee is shot. Always in pain always has to ice them down.[/quote]

                              its over hyped, he still plays and produces..

                              besides 08-09 where he actually was hurt he missed 6 games in the past 4 out of 5 years.

                              Either way, if they lost howard and Stoudemire was a FA they would hop on it next year.
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                                [quote user="lawl"]First day at the new job.

                                Anyone watch the pro bowl?[/quote]

                                congrats, what are u doing now?

                                i tried to... brutal

                                i turned it off once i saw both lines patty cake like a whistle was blown and it wasn't and then the crowd started booing

                                they need to cancel it or do a 7 on 7 tournament or something. Do a skills thing like NBA does

                                something, anything but what they are doing
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