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    [quote user="bigblue4417"]If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

    TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

    It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

    Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.
    [/quote]</P>


    well said, on all points, sir.</P>
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        [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

        yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

        /end game
        [/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
        [/quote]

        they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
        [/quote]More people cause there's more seats
        More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
        [/quote]

        Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
        [/quote]If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis
        [/quote]


        http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

        http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

        the truth will set you free
        [/quote]The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

        The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3
        [/quote]

        bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL
        [/quote]

        Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons
        [/quote]

        I see rex is back making ridic statements
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          [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]

          Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</p>


          That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</p>


          Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</p>[/quote]

          Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

          which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

          Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

          It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
          [/quote]See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long
          [/quote]


          its absolutely true.. you have 12 teams that sellout at home and only 1 team that sells out overall...

          Theres hockey cities, no doubt. The whole country doesn't give a **** though...


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            [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


            Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


            That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


            Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>


            [/quote]

            Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

            which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

            Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

            It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
            [/quote]See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long
            [/quote]</P>


            </P>


            i dont think it's that drastic of a generalization. while NHL fans are probably the most hardcore of fans similar to football(in my own opinion), there are just less of them across the board in U.S.
            It's not a knock on hockey, I jsut think there's less of an overall interest than there is with the other sports.
            </P>
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              [quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.
              [/quote]
              Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.

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                [quote user="bigblue4417"]If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

                TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

                It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

                Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.
                [/quote]Chicago, San Jose, LA, Minnesota, St Louis arent in the Northeast

                Maybe the whole 'hockey is only big in the cold climates' argument was true 20yrs ago but teams in warm weather cities have really caught on just look at the teams in Cali, they have a HUGE following. The longer these teams exist and draw a good following the more community programs will be spawned.

                Yes anyone can bounce a ball and walk to the local park or school yard to shoot hoops and its much tougher to play hockey, but what does that say about the hockey fanbase vs the basketball fanbase, it says we're MUCH more dedicated
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                  [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                  Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</p>


                  That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</p>


                  Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</p>


                  [/quote]

                  Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

                  which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

                  Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

                  It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
                  [/quote]</p>


                  I don't really know what the excitement is at Blackhawk games these days. But in the days of Stan Makita and Tony Esposito, it was nuts.</p>


                  You can look at attendance figures if you like. But hoops draws more celebrities, corporations, and other phony fans. Hockey fans are hard core.</p>


                  Basketball is all about slam dunks, hotdogging, one on one play and the glorification of a few superstars. Hockey is all about the <u>game</u>.</p>


                  Gotta go with Kase 100% on this argument.</p>[/quote]

                  everything u just said, actually means u agree with me

                  America's interest in NBA HIGHLY outweights the interest of the NHL...

                  its clear

                  stop davening - your not every good at it anymore


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                    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"]If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

                    TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

                    It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

                    Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.
                    [/quote]Chicago, San Jose, LA, Minnesota, St Louis arent in the Northeast

                    Maybe the whole 'hockey is only big in the cold climates' argument was true 20yrs ago but teams in warm weather cities have really caught on just look at the teams in Cali, they have a HUGE following. The longer these teams exist and draw a good following the more community programs will be spawned.

                    Yes anyone can bounce a ball and walk to the local park or school yard to shoot hoops and its much tougher to play hockey, but what does that say about the hockey fanbase vs the basketball fanbase, it says we're MUCH more dedicated
                    [/quote]

                    and much smaller
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                      [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.
                      [/quote]
                      Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.
                      [/quote]

                      and no, because locally to kase is the tri-state

                      Knicks are the bigger story than the Rangers and from what i've been hearing the Rangers are looking liket he best team in the NHL
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                        <h1>NBA vs. NHL: Attendance and Ratings In Markets Where TeamsCompete</h1>

                        <div class="post-info">



                        <span class="time">April 22, 2010</span></p></div>

                        New York</p>


                        Ratings

                        Knicks -
                        0.95

                        Rangers – 0.89</p>


                        Attendance

                        Rangers – <span style="font-weight:normal;">99.3% Capacity</span>

                        Knicks –
                        98.7% Capacity</p>


                        New Jersey</p>


                        Ratings

                        Devils –
                        0.58

                        Nets – 0.29</p>


                        Attendance

                        Devils –
                        88.2% capacity

                        Nets – 69.1% capacity</p>


                        Los Angeles</p>


                        Ratings

                        Lakers –
                        3.54

                        Kings – 0.48

                        Clippers – 0.44</p>


                        Attendance

                        Lakers –
                        99.7% capacity

                        Kings – 93.6% capacity

                        Clippers – 85.7% capacity</p>


                        Chicago</p>


                        Ratings

                        Blackhawks – 2.45

                        Bulls – 2.35</p>


                        Attendance

                        Blackhawks – 108.3% capacity

                        Bulls – 99.1% capacity</p>


                        Philadelphia</p>


                        Ratings

                        Flyers – 2.18

                        76ers – 1.24</p>


                        Attendance

                        Flyers – 100.2% capacity

                        76ers – 70.0% capacity</p>


                        Dallas</p>


                        Ratings

                        Mavericks – 2.41

                        Stars – 0.74</p>


                        Attendance

                        Mavericks – 104.1% capacity

                        Stars – 92.9% capacity</p>


                        Bay Area</p>


                        Ratings

                        Warriors – 1.35

                        Sharks – 1.11</p>


                        Attendance

                        Sharks – <span style="font-weight:normal;">100.4%</span>

                        Warriors – 92.0%</p>


                        Boston</p>


                        Ratings

                        Celtics – 3.11

                        Bruins – 2.18</p>


                        Attendance

                        Bruins – 99.0%

                        Celtics – 97.6%</p>


                        Atlanta</p>


                        Ratings

                        Hawks – 1.93/1.66

                        Thrashers – 0.33</p>


                        Attendance

                        Hawks – 88.3% capacity

                        Thrashers – 73.4%capacity</p>


                        Washington</p>


                        Ratings

                        Capitals –
                        1.60

                        Wizards – 1.18</p>


                        Attendance

                        Capitals –
                        100.0%

                        Wizards – 80.3%</p>


                        Detroit</p>


                        Ratings

                        Red Wings –
                        4.21

                        Pistons – 1.98</p>


                        Attendance

                        Red Wings –
                        97.4% capacity

                        Pistons – 84.9% capacity</p>


                        Phoenix</p>


                        Ratings

                        Suns –
                        3.18

                        Coyotes – 0.62</p>


                        Attendance

                        Suns –
                        95.8% capacity

                        Coyotes – 68.5% capacity</p>


                        Minneapolis/St. Paul</p>


                        Ratings

                        Wild –
                        1.67

                        Timberwolves – 0.75</p>


                        Attendance

                        Wild –
                        101.9% capacity

                        Timberwolves – 78.0% capacity</p>


                        Denver</p>


                        Ratings

                        Nuggets –
                        2.78

                        Avalanche – 1.56</p>


                        Attendance

                        Nuggets –
                        93.9% capacity

                        Avalanche – 77.5% capacity</p>


                        Miami</p>


                        Ratings

                        Heat –
                        2.48

                        Panthers – 0.25</p>


                        Attendance

                        Heat –
                        90.5%

                        Panthers – 78.7%</p>
                        Markets Where Hockey Defeats Basketball

                        Ratings: <span style="font-weight:normal;">6</span>

                        Attendance: <span style="font-weight:normal;">9</span>

                        Both:

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                          N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.

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                            <font size="4">Hockey Only Beating Hoops on TV in ThreeMarkets</font>

                            We’re not
                            going to make an enthusiasm gap joke here. <font color="#0000FF">Basketball’s always doing
                            better than hockey on TV, and that’s not what that subject was debated
                            on. <font size="4">The point here as that it takes a basketball team really blowing
                            chunks to find a hockey team that can beat it in the ratings.</font></font></p>


                            What follows after the jump is a slightly more detailed look at the
                            NBA vs. NHL battle in markets where both teams compete. We’ll feature
                            the teams in the market’s current average attendance as well. Enjoy.</p>

                            Atlanta

                            NBA:
                            Hawks

                            NHL: Thrashers</p>


                            Attendance

                            Hawks: 16,398 (87.6%)

                            Thrashers:
                            14,361 (77.4%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Hawks: 1.4

                            Thrashers:
                            0.2</p>


                            Boston

                            NBA:
                            Celtics

                            NHL: Bruins</p>


                            Attendance

                            Celtics: 18,624 (100%)

                            Bruins:
                            16,731 (89.8%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Celtics: 3.7

                            Bruins:
                            2.2</p>


                            Chicago

                            NBA:
                            Bulls

                            NHL: Blackhawks</p>


                            Attendance

                            Bulls:
                            21,003 (96.7%)

                            Blackhawks: 22,495 (114.7%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Bulls: 2.3

                            Blackhawks:
                            1.1</p>


                            Dallas

                            NBA:
                            Mavericks

                            NHL: Stars</p>


                            Attendance

                            Mavericks:
                            20,020 (104.3%)

                            Stars: 17,645 (95.2%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Mavericks: 1.2

                            Stars:
                            0.5</p>


                            Denver

                            NBA: Nuggets

                            NHL: Avalanche
                            </p>


                            Attendance

                            Nuggets: 16,820 (87.8%)

                            Avalanche:
                            15,797 (87.7%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Nuggets:
                            1.8

                            Avalanche: 1.7</p>


                            Detroit

                            NBA:
                            Pistons

                            NHL: Red Wings</p>


                            Attendance

                            Pistons: 22,076 (100%)

                            Red Wings:
                            19,724 (98.3%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Pistons: 3.9

                            Red Wings:
                            3.7</p>


                            South Florida

                            NBA:
                            Heat

                            NHL: Panthers</p>


                            Attendance

                            Heat: 17,754 (90.6%)

                            Panthers:
                            14,967 (77.8%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Heat: 2.2

                            Panthers:
                            0.2</p>


                            Los Angeles

                            NBA:
                            Lakers and Clippers

                            NHL: Kings</p>


                            Attendance

                            Lakers: 18,997 (99.7%)

                            Clippers: <span style="font-weight:normal;">15,443 (81.0%)</span>

                            Kings:
                            15,965 (86.3%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Lakers:
                            4.2

                            Clippers: 0.6

                            Kings: 0.4</p>


                            Minnesota

                            NBA:
                            Timberwolves

                            NHL: Wild</p>


                            Attendance

                            Timberwolves:
                            13,730 (70.9%)

                            Wild: 18,568 (102.8%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Timberwolves:
                            1.1

                            Wild: 2.2</p>


                            New Jersey

                            NBA:
                            Nets

                            NHL: Devils</p>


                            Attendance

                            Nets: <span style="font-weight:normal;">15,152 (75.8%)</span>

                            Devils: 15,313 (86.9%)
                            </p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Nets: 0.6

                            Devils:
                            0.4</p>


                            New York

                            NBA:
                            Knicks

                            NHL: Rangers</p>


                            Attendance

                            Knicks: 19,132
                            (96.8%)

                            Rangers: 18,200 (100%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Knicks: 1.2

                            Rangers:
                            1.0</p>


                            Philadelphia

                            NBA:
                            76ers

                            NHL: Flyers</p>


                            Attendance

                            76ers:
                            14,536 (71.5%)

                            Flyers: 19,428 (99.6%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            76ers:
                            1.5

                            Flyers: 2.2</p>


                            Phoenix</p>


                            NBA: Suns

                            NHL: Coyotes</p>


                            Attendance

                            Suns: 18,422 (100%)

                            Coyotes:
                            14,801 (84.6%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Suns: 3.4

                            Coyotes:
                            0.5</p>


                            Bay Area

                            NBA:
                            Warriors

                            NHL: Sharks</p>


                            Attendance

                            Warriors: 18,855
                            (96,2%)

                            Sharks:
                            17,483 (99.9%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Warriors: 1.5

                            Sharks:
                            1.3</p>


                            Washington

                            NBA:
                            Wizards

                            NHL: Capitals</p>


                            Attendance

                            Wizards:
                            16,854 (83.5%)

                            Capitals: 17,973 (96.3%)</p>


                            TV Ratings

                            Wizards:
                            1.1

                            Capitals: 1.2</p>
                            All attendance numbers are from ESPN. All ratings numbers are from Sports Business Journal via Sports Media

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                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

                              yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

                              /end game
                              [/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
                              [/quote]

                              they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
                              [/quote]More people cause there's more seats
                              More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
                              [/quote]

                              Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
                              [/quote]If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis
                              [/quote]


                              http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

                              http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

                              the truth will set you free
                              [/quote]The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

                              The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3
                              [/quote]

                              bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL
                              [/quote]

                              Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons
                              [/quote]

                              I see rex is back making ridic statements
                              [/quote]Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true
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                                i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

                                long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

                                lol
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