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    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

    yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

    /end game
    [/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
    [/quote]

    they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
    [/quote]More people cause there's more seats
    More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
    [/quote]

    Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
    [/quote]If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis
    [/quote]


    http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

    the truth will set you free
    [/quote]The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

    The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3
    [/quote]

    bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL
    [/quote]

    Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons
    [/quote]

    I see rex is back making ridic statements
    [/quote]Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true
    [/quote]

    its actually quite true

    hockey towns care about hockey - thats about it...
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


      Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


      That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


      Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>


      [/quote]

      Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

      which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

      Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

      It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
      [/quote]</P>


      I don't really know what the excitement is at Blackhawk games these days. But in the days of Stan Makita and Tony Esposito, it was nuts.</P>


      You can look at attendance figures if you like. But hoops draws more celebrities, corporations, and other phony fans. Hockey fans are hard core.</P>


      Basketball is all about slam dunks, hotdogging, one on one play and the glorification of a few superstars. Hockey is all about the <U>game</U>.</P>


      Gotta go with Kase 100% on this argument.</P>


      [/quote]

      everything u just said, actually means u agree with me

      America's interest in NBA HIGHLY outweights the interest of the NHL...

      its clear

      stop davening - your not every good at it anymore


      [/quote]</P>


      Its all about TV Matt. Thats where the money is at. Hockey doesn't play well on TV. But as a live event, its a great game.</P>
      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.
        [/quote]
        Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.
        [/quote]

        and no, because locally to kase is the tri-state

        Knicks are the bigger story than the Rangers and from what i've been hearing the Rangers are looking liket he best team in the NHL
        [/quote]Yes, the Tri-State. Thats what local is, cause there are Knicks and Rangers fans from all 3 states that commute and attend the games at the garden.

        The Rangers have been selling out much more than the Knicks for quite some time now
        Come check the G-Fambulance and The Scarf Soldiers every home game in Lot L6, and like us on facebook and instagam 'NYG Scarf Soldiers'

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          the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country

          [quote user="Kase-1"]
          See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long
          [/quote]
          I believe this to be true as well Kase. General statement or not. If we are going with majority it's true.

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            [quote user="bigblue4417"]<h1>NBA vs. NHL: Attendance and Ratings In Markets Where TeamsCompete</h1>

            <div class="post-info">



            <span class="time">April 22, 2010</span></p></div>

            New York</p>


            Ratings

            Knicks -
            0.95

            Rangers – 0.89</p>


            Attendance

            Rangers – <span style="font-weight:normal;">99.3% Capacity</span>

            Knicks –
            98.7% Capacity</p>


            New Jersey</p>


            Ratings

            Devils –
            0.58

            Nets – 0.29</p>


            Attendance

            Devils –
            88.2% capacity

            Nets – 69.1% capacity</p>


            Los Angeles</p>


            Ratings

            Lakers –
            3.54

            Kings – 0.48

            Clippers – 0.44</p>


            Attendance

            Lakers –
            99.7% capacity

            Kings – 93.6% capacity

            Clippers – 85.7% capacity</p>


            Chicago</p>


            Ratings

            Blackhawks – 2.45

            Bulls – 2.35</p>


            Attendance

            Blackhawks – 108.3% capacity

            Bulls – 99.1% capacity</p>


            Philadelphia</p>


            Ratings

            Flyers – 2.18

            76ers – 1.24</p>


            Attendance

            Flyers – 100.2% capacity

            76ers – 70.0% capacity</p>


            Dallas</p>


            Ratings

            Mavericks – 2.41

            Stars – 0.74</p>


            Attendance

            Mavericks – 104.1% capacity

            Stars – 92.9% capacity</p>


            Bay Area</p>


            Ratings

            Warriors – 1.35

            Sharks – 1.11</p>


            Attendance

            Sharks – <span style="font-weight:normal;">100.4%</span>

            Warriors – 92.0%</p>


            Boston</p>


            Ratings

            Celtics – 3.11

            Bruins – 2.18</p>


            Attendance

            Bruins – 99.0%

            Celtics – 97.6%</p>


            Atlanta</p>


            Ratings

            Hawks – 1.93/1.66

            Thrashers – 0.33</p>


            Attendance

            Hawks – 88.3% capacity

            Thrashers – 73.4%capacity</p>


            Washington</p>


            Ratings

            Capitals –
            1.60

            Wizards – 1.18</p>


            Attendance

            Capitals –
            100.0%

            Wizards – 80.3%</p>


            Detroit</p>


            Ratings

            Red Wings –
            4.21

            Pistons – 1.98</p>


            Attendance

            Red Wings –
            97.4% capacity

            Pistons – 84.9% capacity</p>


            Phoenix</p>


            Ratings

            Suns –
            3.18

            Coyotes – 0.62</p>


            Attendance

            Suns –
            95.8% capacity

            Coyotes – 68.5% capacity</p>


            Minneapolis/St. Paul</p>


            Ratings

            Wild –
            1.67

            Timberwolves – 0.75</p>


            Attendance

            Wild –
            101.9% capacity

            Timberwolves – 78.0% capacity</p>


            Denver</p>


            Ratings

            Nuggets –
            2.78

            Avalanche – 1.56</p>


            Attendance

            Nuggets –
            93.9% capacity

            Avalanche – 77.5% capacity</p>


            Miami</p>


            Ratings

            Heat –
            2.48

            Panthers – 0.25</p>


            Attendance

            Heat –
            90.5%

            Panthers – 78.7%</p>
            Markets Where Hockey Defeats Basketball

            Ratings: <span style="font-weight:normal;">6</span>

            Attendance: <span style="font-weight:normal;">9</span>

            Both:
            [/quote]9 out of 15 isnt bad at all. phoenix coyotes....what a joke

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              [quote user="bigblue4417"]

              “I’m the only one [in the Ryan family of coaches] with only one Super Bowl ring,” Ryan said, via the New York Daily News. <font color="#0000FF">“But I’m planning on getting another one, and I’m planning on getting it quickly.”
              </font>

              “We got some scars this year from this,” Ryan said. “Anybody who doesn’t have scars is either lying to you or never dared. One thing about us: We dare. We put it out there — I put it out there — that we want to be great.”



              GOOD LUCK FATBOY
              [/quote]I just want this idiot to go away.

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                [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

                long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

                lol
                [/quote]</P>


                lmao....that's an awful way of looking at it...but i laughed regardless cuz that might be true.</P>
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                It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                  [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

                  yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

                  /end game
                  [/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
                  [/quote]

                  they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
                  [/quote]More people cause there's more seats
                  More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
                  [/quote]

                  Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
                  [/quote]If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis
                  [/quote]


                  http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

                  http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

                  the truth will set you free
                  [/quote]The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

                  The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3
                  [/quote]

                  bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL
                  [/quote]

                  Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons
                  [/quote]

                  I see rex is back making ridic statements
                  [/quote]Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true
                  [/quote]

                  its actually quite true

                  hockey towns care about hockey - thats about it...
                  [/quote]And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'
                  Come check the G-Fambulance and The Scarf Soldiers every home game in Lot L6, and like us on facebook and instagam 'NYG Scarf Soldiers'

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                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

                    long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

                    lol
                    [/quote]
                    Yeah, and it was a team that had not won a Stanley Cup in ages in one of the most loyal hockey towns in the US.

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                      [quote user="bigblue4417"]N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.[/quote]</P>


                      You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </P>


                      The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</P>


                      One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</P>


                      </P>
                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        [quote user="bigblue4417"]the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country

                        [quote user="Kase-1"]
                        See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long
                        [/quote]
                        I believe this to be true as well Kase. General statement or not. If we are going with majority it's true.
                        [/quote]And if we're going with general statements, there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns' so then Nationwide hockey has a bigger following
                        Come check the G-Fambulance and The Scarf Soldiers every home game in Lot L6, and like us on facebook and instagam 'NYG Scarf Soldiers'

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                          [quote user="Morehead State"]

                          [quote user="bigblue4417"]N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.[/quote]</p>


                          You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


                          The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


                          One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


                          </p>[/quote]For someone that doesnt watch sports at all its probably easier to watch basketball on TV, yes they may be bored to sleep but its easier to follow the ball.

                          Hockey really needs a TV angle from over the ice similar to how the NFL has that camera floating around behind the QB
                          Come check the G-Fambulance and The Scarf Soldiers every home game in Lot L6, and like us on facebook and instagam 'NYG Scarf Soldiers'

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                            4.8 40 yard dash, that is amazing? What was looked at if this kid ever played again before as miraculous is becoming reality. Wow

                            GIANTS' CHAD JONES WILL BE AT OFF-SEASON PROGRAM

                            "Chad Jones still has a long road back to an NFL field, but he hopes to be able to take the next steps on (or around) April 16.
                            The plan right now is for the injured safety to join the Giants’ offseason workout program, which opens that day, nearly 22 months after he almost lost his leg in a horrific car accident. Jones has been rehabbing hard near his home in Louisiana and he’s said many times he has his sights set on playing for the Giants in 2012.

                            Whether he can or not remains to be seen. At the offseason workout program at the Giants' Meadowlands practice facility he’ll continue to rehab his injured left leg in the hopes that at some point he’ll be able to pass the Giants’ team physical. So far he hasn’t, so it’s impossible to know if he’ll be ready to participate in any on-field spring workouts, mini-camp, or even training camp when it opens this summer.

                            Any on-field participation would be an incredible feat for the former LSU star who was a third-round pick by the Giants back in 2010. Two months after he was drafted, his career and life took a detour when he smashed his SUV into a pole on the side of a New Orleans street and shattered the fibula, tibia and ankle in his left leg and punctured his femoral artery.

                            Two weeks before the accident, Jones had signed a four-year, $2.615 million contract with the Giants that included a signing bonus of $825,965 – which the Giants let him keep. Recently, he restructured the final two years of his deal, lowing his 2012 salary from $490,000 to $390,000, and his 2013 salary from $575,000 to $480,000.

                            He did not sign any contract extensions, despite a published report that said he did.

                            Both Jones’ camp and the Giants have been cautiously optimistic about his progress and seem to expet he’ll be on the field at some point this summer. Jones last held a public workout on his 23rd birthday, back on Oct. 5, when he was videotaped running back-to-back 40-yard dashes in 4.84 seconds and 4.90 seconds."

                            http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giant

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                              [quote user="Morehead State"]

                              [quote user="bigblue4417"]N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.[/quote]</p>


                              You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


                              The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


                              One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


                              </p>[/quote]
                              Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

                              If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

                              If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

                              No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.

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                                [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]

                                [quote user="bigblue4417"]N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.[/quote]</p>


                                You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


                                The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


                                One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


                                </p>[/quote]
                                Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

                                If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

                                If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

                                No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
                                [/quote]Matt said hockey was boring, which was his main reason why hockey isnt popular. Thats a knock. I was at a bar the other night and the ranger game was on.

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