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    [quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
    [/quote]i like beatty but im not sure hes ready yet. plus i see beatty replacing kmac before diehl.

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      Why do they call it signing bonus'? Why dont they say youll get 10 million for next year, instead of 7 million and a 3 million signing bonus?

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        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
        wait.. what?!

        how did u see that picture?!
        [/quote]</P>


        uhh cuz its not a blocked site? lol</P>
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          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
          this diehl hate is so ridiculous. I would have to say if u didn't have such a ****** about Beatty, that you wouldn't be this fierce about how "bad" Diehl

          Its drastically overexaggerated and your inconsistent with your arguments. Alot of play by Beatty you praised but have actually killed Diehl for better play. TRuth of the matter is that you can't rely on Beatty either. the guys finished two of his first 3 years on IR
          [/quote]I dont know where you're getting your info from but its quite skewed.

          Diehl played like crap for the simple fact that he let up a ton of sacks, pressures, and hurries, significantly more than anyone else on the line.

          Youre acting like I despise him, I dont. I just think that at this point in Diehls career his only chance to start is gonna be at RT or coming off the bench

          Its not like Beatty played 2 games this season then went on IR, he started 10 and the year before he started 8 games

          2010 was a freak accident, a detached retina could happen to anyone, the dude got poked in the eye Captain Insane-O style

          I know you and MH have raging ******s for Diehl but you 2 are totally blind to the fact that while Diehl DID get 2 rings as an LT we have a better LT option on our bench.

          And even if we did stick Diehl at LT, we're just gonna chalk up Beatty and his 2nd round spot we drafted him at as moot??? Cmon guys
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            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
            [/quote]

            i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

            They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
            [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

            Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
            Diehl is better at run blocking

            Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking each season that he started


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              [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
              [/quote]i like beatty but im not sure hes ready yet. plus i see beatty replacing kmac before diehl.
              [/quote]Beatty has the agility and speed of a prototypical LT, but doesnt have the mauling ability or strength to be that prototye RT. Then again with the infulx of speed rushers who knows what the trend will be in a few seasons

              RT's are usually mauling beastly masters of the run blocking game whos strength and gusto make up for lack of athletic ability

              LT's are usually agile, more-athletic, pass protection specialists with great footwork
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                [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                [/quote]

                i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                Diehl is better at run blocking

                Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <FONT color=#0000ff>each season that he started

                </FONT>
                [/quote]</P>


                soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</P>
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                  [quote user="JPizzack"]

                  [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                  [/quote]

                  i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                  They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                  [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                  Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                  Diehl is better at run blocking

                  Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <font color="#0000ff">each season that he started

                  </font>
                  [/quote]</p>


                  soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                  I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</p>[/quote]1st season didnt play
                  2nd season played a decent amount
                  3rd season our starting LT and gets injured 10 games into the season

                  Not a ton of games, but when he played he played damned good. Take your time guys, ill put this debate on hold if you guy wanna go back and focus on Beatty...... Dont worry, Ill wait
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                    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]

                    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                    [/quote]

                    i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                    They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                    [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                    Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                    Diehl is better at run blocking

                    Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <font color="#0000ff">each season that he started

                    </font>
                    [/quote]</p>


                    soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                    I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</p>[/quote]1st season didnt play
                    2nd season played a decent amount
                    3rd season our starting LT and gets injured 10 games into the season <font size="6">and then once hes replaced the offensive line looks COMPLETELY BETTER</font>

                    Not a ton of games, but when he played he played damned good. Take your time guys, ill put this debate on hold if you guy wanna go back and focus on Beatty...... Dont worry, Ill wait
                    [/quote]

                    fixed it for u

                    he played unbalanced. Decent against pass rush and brutal vs the run

                    I'll wait too becuase Diehl will not only be back this year but will start at LT. If they do try something and hes not starting at tackle to start, he will by seasons end will not be a giant the following year unless he signs the minimum to be a backup.

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                      [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]

                      [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                      [/quote]

                      i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                      They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                      [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                      Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                      Diehl is better at run blocking

                      Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <font color="#0000ff">each season that he started

                      </font>
                      [/quote]</p>


                      soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                      I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</p>[/quote]1st season didnt play
                      2nd season played a decent amount
                      3rd season our starting LT and gets injured 10 games into the season

                      Not a ton of games, but when he played he played damned good. Take your time guys, ill put this debate on hold if you guy wanna go back and focus on Beatty...... Dont worry, Ill wait
                      [/quote]youre trying to say Beatty is better without any facts to back it up.

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                        [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]

                        [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                        [/quote]

                        i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                        They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                        [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                        Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                        Diehl is better at run blocking

                        Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <font color="#0000ff">each season that he started

                        </font>
                        [/quote]</p>


                        soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                        I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</p>[/quote]1st season didnt play
                        2nd season played a decent amount
                        3rd season our starting LT and gets injured 10 games into the season

                        Not a ton of games, but when he played he played damned good. Take your time guys, ill put this debate on hold if you guy wanna go back and focus on Beatty...... Dont worry, Ill wait
                        [/quote]youre trying to say Beatty is better without any facts to back it up.
                        [/quote]Diehl has allowed 22 sacks in 3 seasons himself
                        Beatty allowed 5 sacks in 3 seasons

                        When it comes to numbers thats about all you'll get from the OL

                        http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/roster/

                        David Diehl finished dead last in the league with a pass blocking
                        efficiency rating of 90.4. The pass blocking efficiency rating takes
                        into account sacks, quarterback hits allowed, quarterback hurries
                        allowed divided by the number of pass blocking snaps. The soon to be
                        free agent, Kareem McKenzie, came in only 12 slots better in overall
                        ranking with a 92.7 efficiency ratio. Finally, Will Beatty, in his
                        first year as starting LT, came in 50<sup>th</sup> out of 75 with a 93.6 rating.
                        - http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...nsive-tackles/

                        But I know that Matt wont take those stats seriously he hates PFF

                        ...But as you guys all know Im just making this all up out of thin air
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                          [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]

                          [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                          [/quote]

                          i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                          They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                          [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                          Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                          Diehl is better at run blocking

                          Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <font color="#0000ff">each season that he started

                          </font>
                          [/quote]</p>


                          soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                          I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</p>[/quote]1st season didnt play
                          2nd season played a decent amount
                          3rd season our starting LT and gets injured 10 games into the season

                          Not a ton of games, but when he played he played damned good. Take your time guys, ill put this debate on hold if you guy wanna go back and focus on Beatty...... Dont worry, Ill wait
                          [/quote]youre trying to say Beatty is better without any facts to back it up.
                          [/quote]Diehl has allowed 22 sacks in 3 seasons himself
                          Beatty allowed 5 sacks in 3 seasons

                          When it comes to numbers thats about all you'll get from the OL

                          http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/roster/

                          David Diehl finished dead last in the league with a pass blocking
                          efficiency rating of 90.4. The pass blocking efficiency rating takes
                          into account sacks, quarterback hits allowed, quarterback hurries
                          allowed divided by the number of pass blocking snaps. The soon to be
                          free agent, Kareem McKenzie, came in only 12 slots better in overall
                          ranking with a 92.7 efficiency ratio. Finally, Will Beatty, in his
                          first year as starting LT, came in 50<sup>th</sup> out of 75 with a 93.6 rating.
                          - http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...nsive-tackles/

                          But I know that Matt wont take those stats seriously he hates PFF

                          ...But as you guys all know Im just making this all up out of thin air
                          [/quote]Or this one where Diehl was ranked THEE WORST OG Against the pass rush

                          http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...s-and-centers/
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                            [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]

                            [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl is a great team player, and I want him to retire here, but we have better LT options on our team, and his name is Will Beatty
                            [/quote]

                            i'm sorry but Diehl and Beatty are pretty equal in pass protection

                            They are not very equal in run blocking or staying healthy.
                            [/quote]OK now you're just pulling stuff out of your wahzoo

                            Beatty is leaps and bounds better at pass protection
                            Diehl is better at run blocking

                            Diehl has also been in the league 9 years and still cant step up his pass protection, Beatty has gotten better and better with his run blocking <font color="#0000ff">each season that he started

                            </font>
                            [/quote]</p>


                            soooooo a few games here and there?? lol....you make it sound like they guy has played a ton of football for us, and that he has started alot. apparently he has started 16 games for us. the first 2 years only as a necessity.
                            I'm not knocking on the guy. I think he did play well, but it's a relatively small sample size: 16 out of 48 games.</p>[/quote]1st season didnt play
                            2nd season played a decent amount
                            3rd season our starting LT and gets injured 10 games into the season

                            Not a ton of games, but when he played he played damned good. Take your time guys, ill put this debate on hold if you guy wanna go back and focus on Beatty...... Dont worry, Ill wait
                            [/quote]youre trying to say Beatty is better without any facts to back it up.
                            [/quote]Diehl has allowed 22 sacks in 3 seasons himself
                            Beatty allowed 5 sacks in 3 seasons

                            When it comes to numbers thats about all you'll get from the OL

                            http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/roster/

                            David Diehl finished dead last in the league with a pass blocking
                            efficiency rating of 90.4. The pass blocking efficiency rating takes
                            into account sacks, quarterback hits allowed, quarterback hurries
                            allowed divided by the number of pass blocking snaps. The soon to be
                            free agent, Kareem McKenzie, came in only 12 slots better in overall
                            ranking with a 92.7 efficiency ratio. Finally, Will Beatty, in his
                            first year as starting LT, came in 50<sup>th</sup> out of 75 with a 93.6 rating.
                            - http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...nsive-tackles/

                            But I know that Matt wont take those stats seriously he hates PFF

                            ...But as you guys all know Im just making this all up out of thin air
                            [/quote]

                            why don't you average out games played at tackle vs games played period

                            And i'm sorry, but two years ago when he got to come in as the unbalanced tight end doesn't really count in this debate. If your trying to make the stats argument thats fine... but ur not going to include games where he got in on plays... Average out sacks given up at the tackle position vs passing snaps at the tackle position....

                            whats with u and the general weak statistical arguments lately
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                              and also while we're on the subject since when is SACKS the only stat that we're interested in mentioning about pass protection?

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                                [quote user="Kase-1"]Diehl has allowed 22 sacks in 3 seasons himself
                                Beatty allowed 5 sacks in 3 seasons

                                [/quote]</P>


                                4 times as many games played....4 times as many sacks allowed</P>


                                LAWYERED!!!!</P>
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