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    [quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
    smith and cruz?

    Mario started getting his in his second year


    [/quote]</P>


    Smith had 8 receptions as a rookie.
    Cruz is a freak...what would you want me to say about him? lol

    And youre right about Manningham. I forgot that he came in right when we lost plax the year before, and drafted nicks. so it was good timing for him for sure. however, past few years, we been solid. thats why i think things change.

    I am curious to see what the actual order of the depth chart is according to the coaching staff for the upcoming season (not that they have one at the moment or anything)</P>


    [/quote]</P>


    I guess the only FA WR I see us bringing in is Steve Smith. There may be someone else that I can't think of but he seems the best fit for finding holes in the zones and making the third down catches. Plus he obviously knows the system and the QB.</P>


    But we also have to consider that his "playmaking" days are over. I've been saying for a year that his microfracture surgery may have ended that aspect of his game.</P>


    Matt is probably wrong again on that.</P>
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      [quote user="JPizzack"]

      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
      smith and cruz?

      Mario started getting his in his second year


      [/quote]</p>


      Smith had 8 receptions as a rookie.
      Cruz is a freak...what would you want me to say about him? lol

      And youre right about Manningham. I forgot that he came in right when we lost plax the year before, and drafted nicks. so it was good timing for him for sure. however, past few years, we been solid. thats why i think things change.

      I am curious to see what the actual order of the depth chart is according to the coaching staff for the upcoming season (not that they have one at the moment or anything)</p>[/quote]

      smith had 8 receptions as a rookie in the regular season while also being hurt for most of it...

      he then came back for 55 and 550+ i his sophmore year and he also had a solid roll i the playoffs of his rookie year...


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        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]"If it came down to me taking less money to stay here I would" Osi
        [/quote]

        im so on the fence about it

        while I would love him back, especially after saying that

        the possibilities of trading him for a second rounder and drafting a pass rusher high just intrigues me. Reese knows his Pass rushers and receivers
        [/quote]I like his individual play, but more importantly how he effects the dynamics to make the entire defensive line better. It's just overwhelming for oppossing offensive lineman we have soooo much talent up front.

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          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]Coughlin said he expect T2, Goff and Osi to be members of the New York Giants next year.
          [/quote]

          I can't see T2

          i really can't, hes lookin for 5mil a year

          I guess he would maybe do a one year deal type thing though

          [/quote]</P>


          Guys coming off their 2nd knee reconstruction surgery don't get $5MM/yr. He may get a bit more than the league minimum but thats it.</P>


          I would expect him to be a Giant next year. I give it a 90% chance.</P>
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            [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
            smith and cruz?

            Mario started getting his in his second year


            [/quote]</p>


            Smith had 8 receptions as a rookie.
            Cruz is a freak...what would you want me to say about him? lol

            And youre right about Manningham. I forgot that he came in right when we lost plax the year before, and drafted nicks. so it was good timing for him for sure. however, past few years, we been solid. thats why i think things change.

            I am curious to see what the actual order of the depth chart is according to the coaching staff for the upcoming season (not that they have one at the moment or anything)</p>


            [/quote]</p>


            I guess the only FA WR I see us bringing in is Steve Smith. There may be someone else that I can't think of but he seems the best fit for finding holes in the zones and making the third down catches. Plus he obviously knows the system and the QB.</p>


            But we also have to consider that his "playmaking" days are over. I've been saying for a year that his microfracture surgery may have ended that aspect of his game.</p>


            Matt is probably wrong again on that.</p>[/quote]

            wrong about what?
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            • Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

              [quote user="Morehead State"]

              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]Coughlin said he expect T2, Goff and Osi to be members of the New York Giants next year.
              [/quote]

              I can't see T2

              i really can't, hes lookin for 5mil a year

              I guess he would maybe do a one year deal type thing though

              [/quote]</p>


              Guys coming off their 2nd knee reconstruction surgery don't get $5MM/yr. He may get a bit more than the league minimum but thats it.</p>


              I would expect him to be a Giant next year. I give it a 90% chance.</p>[/quote]

              well i did get that tidbit PRE superbowl... but I see him doing a one year deal type thing, but we won't lock him up
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                [quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]"If it came down to me taking less money to stay here I would" Osi
                [/quote]

                im so on the fence about it

                while I would love him back, especially after saying that

                the possibilities of trading him for a second rounder and drafting a pass rusher high just intrigues me. Reese knows his Pass rushers and receivers
                [/quote]I like his individual play, but more importantly how he effects the dynamics to make the entire defensive line better. It's just overwhelming for oppossing offensive lineman we have soooo much talent up front.[/quote]

                yea but maybe trading him now and getting a mid round 2nd rounder for him would be sweet. We could land a young freak, save money, and be just as good...

                i dunno

                if he is asking ridic money then he has to go
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                  [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


                  [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
                  smith and cruz?

                  Mario started getting his in his second year


                  [/quote]</P>


                  Smith had 8 receptions as a rookie.
                  Cruz is a freak...what would you want me to say about him? lol

                  And youre right about Manningham. I forgot that he came in right when we lost plax the year before, and drafted nicks. so it was good timing for him for sure. however, past few years, we been solid. thats why i think things change.

                  I am curious to see what the actual order of the depth chart is according to the coaching staff for the upcoming season (not that they have one at the moment or anything)</P>


                  [/quote]</P>


                  I guess the only FA WR I see us bringing in is Steve Smith. There may be someone else that I can't think of but he seems the best fit for finding holes in the zones and making the third down catches. Plus he obviously knows the system and the QB.</P>


                  But we also have to consider that his "playmaking" days are over. I've been saying for a year that his microfracture surgery may have ended that aspect of his game.</P>


                  Matt is probably wrong again on that.</P>


                  [/quote]

                  wrong about what?
                  [/quote]</P>


                  My God...where do I start?</P>


                  Oh Yeah...you were saying something about Steve Smith's great "playmaking ability". </P>


                  I don't see that ever being true again. Given his knee situation, I see a pure posession receiver.</P>
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                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]"If it came down to me taking less money to stay here I would" Osi
                    [/quote]

                    im so on the fence about it

                    while I would love him back, especially after saying that

                    the possibilities of trading him for a second rounder and drafting a pass rusher high just intrigues me. Reese knows his Pass rushers and receivers
                    [/quote]I like his individual play, but more importantly how he effects the dynamics to make the entire defensive line better. It's just overwhelming for oppossing offensive lineman we have soooo much talent up front.[/quote]

                    yea but maybe trading him now and getting a mid round 2nd rounder for him would be sweet. We could land a young freak, save money, and be just as good...

                    i dunno

                    if he is asking ridic money then he has to go
                    [/quote]</P>


                    We will try like hell to trade him on draft day. But I think they know they will probably get nothing better than a third round pick.</P>
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


                      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
                      smith and cruz?

                      Mario started getting his in his second year


                      [/quote]</p>


                      Smith had 8 receptions as a rookie.
                      Cruz is a freak...what would you want me to say about him? lol

                      And youre right about Manningham. I forgot that he came in right when we lost plax the year before, and drafted nicks. so it was good timing for him for sure. however, past few years, we been solid. thats why i think things change.

                      I am curious to see what the actual order of the depth chart is according to the coaching staff for the upcoming season (not that they have one at the moment or anything)</p>


                      [/quote]</p>


                      I guess the only FA WR I see us bringing in is Steve Smith. There may be someone else that I can't think of but he seems the best fit for finding holes in the zones and making the third down catches. Plus he obviously knows the system and the QB.</p>


                      But we also have to consider that his "playmaking" days are over. I've been saying for a year that his microfracture surgery may have ended that aspect of his game.</p>


                      Matt is probably wrong again on that.</p>


                      [/quote]

                      wrong about what?
                      [/quote]</p>


                      My God...where do I start?</p>


                      Oh Yeah...you were saying something about Steve Smith's great "playmaking ability". </p>


                      I don't see that ever being true again. Given his knee situation, I see a pure posession receiver.</p>[/quote]

                      alrite mr.senile....

                      you can't comprehend or remember what i said 5 minutes, so its funny before your trying to say i have revisionist history...

                      First off, i said IF healthy. I said from his past performances his big play ability was UNDERRATED

                      And honestly after the year you've had in THEE thread with predictions vs my predictions you should be calling me PAPPY cuz you are my son..

                      Tell me your thoughts about Eli again....
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                        [quote user="Morehead State"]


                        [quote user="bigblue4417"]"If it came down to me taking less money to stay here I would" Osi
                        [/quote]</P>


                        He's a lying sack of Osi.</P>


                        [/quote]</P>


                        well if he says it, AND coughlin says it....</P>


                        good for osi in that case...</P>


                        tell ya what....a ring with all those diamonds on it changes the tune of some players. something you and I dont know and will never experience. </P>
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                        It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                          [quote user="Morehead State"]

                          [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]"If it came down to me taking less money to stay here I would" Osi
                          [/quote]

                          im so on the fence about it

                          while I would love him back, especially after saying that

                          the possibilities of trading him for a second rounder and drafting a pass rusher high just intrigues me. Reese knows his Pass rushers and receivers
                          [/quote]I like his individual play, but more importantly how he effects the dynamics to make the entire defensive line better. It's just overwhelming for oppossing offensive lineman we have soooo much talent up front.[/quote]

                          yea but maybe trading him now and getting a mid round 2nd rounder for him would be sweet. We could land a young freak, save money, and be just as good...

                          i dunno

                          if he is asking ridic money then he has to go
                          [/quote]</p>


                          We will try like hell to trade him on draft day. But I think they know they will probably get nothing better than a third round pick.</p>[/quote]

                          2nd rounder or no point in trading him

                          he is DEF still 2nd round worthy. 12.5 sacks in 13 games is second round worthy
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                            Cash Money Records just signed Limp Bizkit


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                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
                              smith and cruz?

                              Mario started getting his in his second year


                              [/quote]</P>


                              Smith had 8 receptions as a rookie.
                              Cruz is a freak...what would you want me to say about him? lol

                              And youre right about Manningham. I forgot that he came in right when we lost plax the year before, and drafted nicks. so it was good timing for him for sure. however, past few years, we been solid. thats why i think things change.

                              I am curious to see what the actual order of the depth chart is according to the coaching staff for the upcoming season (not that they have one at the moment or anything)</P>


                              [/quote]</P>


                              I guess the only FA WR I see us bringing in is Steve Smith. There may be someone else that I can't think of but he seems the best fit for finding holes in the zones and making the third down catches. Plus he obviously knows the system and the QB.</P>


                              But we also have to consider that his "playmaking" days are over. I've been saying for a year that his microfracture surgery may have ended that aspect of his game.</P>


                              Matt is probably wrong again on that.</P>


                              [/quote]

                              wrong about what?
                              [/quote]</P>


                              My God...where do I start?</P>


                              Oh Yeah...you were saying something about Steve Smith's great "playmaking ability". </P>


                              I don't see that ever being true again. Given his knee situation, I see a pure posession receiver.</P>


                              [/quote]

                              alrite mr.senile....

                              you can't comprehend or remember what i said 5 minutes, so its funny before your trying to say i have revisionist history...

                              First off, i said IF healthy. I said from his past performances his big play ability was UNDERRATED

                              And honestly after the year you've had in THEE thread with predictions vs my predictions you should be calling me PAPPY cuz you are my son..

                              Tell me your thoughts about Eli again....
                              [/quote]</P>


                              Its not that he's not healthy. Its that this kind of surgery often leaves a player with far less explosiveness than before.</P>


                              And my opinion about Eli has not changed one bit. My position has always been that he played lousy in 2010. He was crappy in the pocket. he rushed his throws in the face of a pass rush. He tended to be overly amped early in many games and was throwing high which created a lot of tipped balls.</P>


                              In 2011 he was much calmer and better in the pocket. He was willing to move to his right and step up in the pocket to create more time. And he generally made much better decisions in the pocket this past season.</P>


                              In other words....he was MUCH better this year...Dad.</P>
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                                [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                                [quote user="bigblue4417"]"If it came down to me taking less money to stay here I would" Osi
                                [/quote]</P>


                                He's a lying sack of Osi.</P>


                                [/quote]</P>


                                well if he says it, AND coughlin says it....</P>


                                good for osi in that case...</P>


                                tell ya what....a ring with all those diamonds on it changes the tune of some players. something you and I dont know and will never experience. </P>


                                [/quote]</P>


                                I hope you're right but I doubt it.</P>


                                Leopards don't change their spots. He hasn't been happy since he was drafted.</P>
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