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    [quote user="dezzzR"]The only thing thats wrong in the bounty situation is, technically, its going against the cap.

    [/quote]

    what?
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      [quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


      [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
      [/quote]

      it is horse ****

      unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

      But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
      [/quote]</p>


      No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</p>


      The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


      </p>


      [/quote]

      I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
      [/quote]</p>


      And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


      </p>


      BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


      I'm flattered really.</p>


      [/quote]

      bull****

      big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming. The Hernandez drop stands out

      Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
      [/quote]</p>


      Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</p>


      Don't mischaracterize my position.</p>[/quote]

      the point is that big hits is really what the bounties paid. Big hits. If they weren' legal, especially in todays game, they would of been flagged so I doubt that those plays would of been paying to a player.

      Big Hits got you the bounty, if you were able to break the guys collarbone im sure u got a bonus...

      thats football, thats the mindset you need for defense. If you take that away the game would be harmed FAR more than losing any player.
      [/quote]Honestly, it's part of the reason I love this game so much. I don't want to see someone get paralyzed, but a good legal hard hit that clears the players sinuses and knocks the spit out of his mouth-makes me stand and cheer.[/quote]

      ****in a - broken collarbone sucks, but its not serious....

      snot bubbles baby
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        [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


        [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
        [/quote]

        it is horse ****

        unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

        But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
        [/quote]</p>


        No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</p>


        The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


        </p>


        [/quote]

        I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
        [/quote]</p>


        And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


        </p>


        BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


        I'm flattered really.</p>


        [/quote]

        bull****

        big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming. The Hernandez drop stands out

        Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
        [/quote]</p>


        Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</p>


        Don't mischaracterize my position.</p>


        [/quote]haha-this is going wild....like usual, that's why we love it. I think MH is onboard with brutal hard defensive hits-so long as they are legal. Right MH?[/quote]</p>


        Aren't we all? </p>


        And this is what happens when Morehead gets involved with the discussion. It goes off.</p>[/quote]Yes but what was legal 10 years ago isnt legal today. How can these refs tell if there is helmet to helmet half the time? How do you determine if a wr is "defenseless"? This game is being watered down little by little.

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          [quote user="Morehead State"]

          And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


          </p>


          BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


          I'm flattered really.</p>[/quote]

          Great point, I didn't really consider that...still I'm not against it...but I don't want my team doing it for the reason you just mentioned.

          About the sig...many may follow but I will always be the first to have you in my sig, I'm glad you appreciate it

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            [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]The only thing thats wrong in the bounty situation is, technically, its going against the cap.

            [/quote]

            what?
            [/quote]If Vilmas knocks out Farve or someone, vilma gets money for it. Its kind of like a under the table bonus if you will, imo anyway

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              I LOVE Tolbert catching out of the backfield as such a monstrocity that it's hard to bring im down. But i doubt we will spring for that. We gotta pay other players before we think about replacing a RB. Especially when we have 4 on the roster with Jacobs here lol
              Oderint Dum Metuant

              It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
                [/quote]

                it is horse ****

                unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

                But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
                [/quote]</p>


                No its not Matt.* Your position is horse****.</p>


                The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers.* Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


                *</p>


                [/quote]

                I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
                [/quote]</p>


                And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense.* How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up.* Happens all the time anymore.* When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


                *</p>


                BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


                I'm flattered really.</p>


                [/quote]

                bull****

                big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming.* The Hernandez drop stands out

                Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
                [/quote]</p>


                Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</p>


                Don't mischaracterize my position.</p>[/quote]

                the point is that big hits is really what the bounties paid.* Big hits. If they weren' legal, especially in todays game, they would of been flagged so I doubt that those plays would of been paying to a player.

                Big Hits got you the bounty, if you were able to break the guys collarbone im sure u got a bonus...

                thats football, thats the mindset you need for defense.* If you take that away the game would be harmed FAR more than losing any player.
                [/quote]Honestly, it's part of the reason I love this game so much. I don't want to see someone get paralyzed, but a good legal hard hit that clears the players sinuses and knocks the spit out of his mouth-makes me stand and cheer.[/quote]

                ****in a - broken collarbone sucks, but its not serious....

                snot bubbles baby
                [/quote]Romo's broken collarbone---****--that's fine. The the stuff inscriptions are made of. Boley is on my list to get him inscribe the Romo steam roll tackle.

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                  [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]The only thing thats wrong in the bounty situation is, technically, its going against the cap.

                  [/quote]

                  what?
                  [/quote]If Vilmas knocks out Farve or someone, vilma gets money for it. Its kind of like a under the table bonus if you will, imo anyway
                  [/quote]

                  na but im saying it has nothing to do wtih the cap?
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                    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]The only thing thats wrong in the bounty situation is, technically, its going against the cap.

                    [/quote]

                    what?
                    [/quote]If Vilmas knocks out Farve or someone, vilma gets money for it. Its kind of like a under the table bonus if you will, imo anyway
                    [/quote]

                    na but im saying it has nothing to do wtih the cap?
                    [/quote]It doesnt but at the same time it is. The team is rewarding a player (bonus) for injuring another player. Its under the table incentives. Maybe Im wrong but thats the way Im seeing it.

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                      Unless the players were putting their own money in a pot and said who ever gets the hardest hit, or knocks so and so out, gets the pot.

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                        You guys aren't getting the point here.</P>


                        This is the way the NFL is now. You can whine and cry like schoolgirls if you want, but it won't change. Player safety is the #1 concern of the NFL right now. They are being sued by ex players for concusions etc..</P>


                        They will have zero tolerance for teams putting bounties on opposing players. Its just the way it is.</P>


                        You're all going to either have to deal with it, or stop watching football.</P>
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                          [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]The only thing thats wrong in the bounty situation is, technically, its going against the cap.

                          [/quote]

                          what?
                          [/quote]If Vilmas knocks out Farve or someone, vilma gets money for it. Its kind of like a under the table bonus if you will, imo anyway
                          [/quote]

                          na but im saying it has nothing to do wtih the cap?
                          [/quote]It doesnt but at the same time it is. The team is rewarding a player (bonus) for injuring another player. Its under the table incentives. Maybe Im wrong but thats the way Im seeing it.
                          [/quote]

                          the team isn't REALLY rewarding the players at all

                          its the players pooling their own money together. Money which they've already made from the cap...

                          I mean maybe Williams was contribuytiung to the pot, but I mean its not enough to really make any difference in terms of cap. Even with pots that went up to 50k... whats that average, like 2k per person?
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                            [quote user="Morehead State"]

                            You guys aren't getting the point here.</p>


                            This is the way the NFL is now. You can whine and cry like schoolgirls if you want, but it won't change. Player safety is the #1 concern of the NFL right now. They are being sued by ex players for concusions etc..</p>


                            They will have zero tolerance for teams putting bounties on opposing players. Its just the way it is.</p>


                            You're all going to either have to deal with it, or stop watching football.</p>[/quote]

                            actually we're not the ones whining and crying, that would be you...

                            whether the game is different or not really has no effect on what your opinion should be. The RULES have changed, but yet these hits are all within the rules that they were rewarded for. So whether you want to over exaggerate it being a different game or not is on you....

                            The thing we're pointing out is your hypocrisy of you condemning it now but being okay with it when LT did it.
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                              [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]

                              You guys aren't getting the point here.</p>


                              This is the way the NFL is now. You can whine and cry like schoolgirls if you want, but it won't change. Player safety is the #1 concern of the NFL right now. They are being sued by ex players for concusions etc..</p>


                              They will have zero tolerance for teams putting bounties on opposing players. Its just the way it is.</p>


                              You're all going to either have to deal with it, or stop watching football.</p>[/quote]

                              actually we're not the ones whining and crying, that would be you...

                              whether the game is different or not really has no effect on what your opinion should be. The RULES have changed, <u>but yet these hits are all within the rules that they were rewarded for.</u> So whether you want to over exaggerate it being a different game or not is on you....

                              The thing we're pointing out is your hypocrisy of you condemning it now but being okay with it when LT did it.
                              [/quote]you hit the nail on the head.

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                                [quote user="Morehead State"]

                                You guys aren't getting the point here.</p>


                                This is the way the NFL is now. You can whine and cry like schoolgirls if you want, but it won't change. Player safety is the #1 concern of the NFL right now. They are being sued by ex players for concusions etc..</p>


                                They will have zero tolerance for teams putting bounties on opposing players. Its just the way it is.</p>


                                You're all going to either have to deal with it, or stop watching football.</p>[/quote]

                                It's Goodell's agenda really Morehead...if someone else was Commish (and that will be the case one day) there is no telling what the NFL will turn into....right now Goodell like's the safety agenda so that's whats happening...that's all it is.

                                about the cap issue...I agree with Dezz...that's the only "real" problem in this situation I believe...and only if it's the owner/management paying the players...if the players are pooling their own money and doing it I don't have a problem with the situation (beyond the fact that it causes missed tackles and I don't want my team missing tackles)

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