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    [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]Osi does NOT want to be a Giant this season under any circumstances. He views a trade as his only chance for a big contract and it has to be this season. he will continue to be a back up in 2012 for us and after the season he'll be a year older. He knows that his chances for a pay day are shrinking as every day passes.


    In other words, he will pout and whine and complain and be a general irratant to the team.</p>


    [/quote]</p>


    I posted about this last week:
    Why do we make such a big deal about contract hold outs. sure they seem whiny and childish, but just like you said, this is Osi's only opportunity to make more money.
    In the NBA, Dwight Howard demanded a trade from Orlando, and it never happened, and everyone around the league, players analysts etc all say the same thing "it's bad business for Orlando to not deal him, youre now messing with a guy's money, and that's not good" and everyone gets behind him.
    Osi does the same thing, and every calls him a piece of ****. Whether you like it or not, these past few years, Osi could have made ALOT more money on another team. Now asa Giants fan, thats good for us, but how can people not see that he reserves the right to first ask for a negotiation, and now, a trade? It doesnt help that we've paid other people more than him, and given them sizeable signing bonuses...specifically Kiwi. Not that I see anything wrong with the Kiwi signing, but yea, it does cause waves with Osi for obvious reasons.</p>[/quote]Its the way Osi goes about asking for a new contract/a trade. Its the attitude. Its the faking of the severity of an injury not just once but twice! In one year! First before training camp he lied saying he didnt need surgery to get a new contract, and then during the season. I really believe he wasnt injured or wasnt hurt enough to the point he couldnt play. Once we started winning he magically healed. NO ONE questions that move and it drives me crazy.

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      [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


      [quote user="Morehead State"]Rivers is an outside LB. What the hell are you smoking?[/quote]</p>


      OLB? i thought middle. either way, improving at LB is always something we need to try to do</p>


      [/quote]</p>


      No. Rivers is an OLB. Really he's a Will. Although I suspect he'll be playing the SAM for us this season, with Boley at Will and Herz in the middle.</p>


      Williams should also get plenty of playing time as well. Really our LB situation is pretty good. If Kiwi moves to DE, we still have a good group there.</p>


      [/quote]In other threads people were saying he would be playing the middle. He has the size.
      [/quote]</p>


      You must be thinking of soemone else. Rivers is small. (235). It would be a reach for him at SAM but his speed and coverage skills fit a Fewell scheme there.</p>


      [/quote]Hes listed as 242 on nfl.com
      [/quote]</p>


      Giants list him at 235. Either way, he's too small.</p>[/quote] 240 for a mlb isnt "small"


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        [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]Osi does NOT want to be a Giant this season under any circumstances. He views a trade as his only chance for a big contract and it has to be this season. he will continue to be a back up in 2012 for us and after the season he'll be a year older. He knows that his chances for a pay day are shrinking as every day passes.


        In other words, he will pout and whine and complain and be a general irratant to the team.</P>


        [/quote]</P>


        I posted about this last week:
        Why do we make such a big deal about contract hold outs. sure they seem whiny and childish, but just like you said, this is Osi's only opportunity to make more money.
        In the NBA, Dwight Howard demanded a trade from Orlando, and it never happened, and everyone around the league, players analysts etc all say the same thing "it's bad business for Orlando to not deal him, youre now messing with a guy's money, and that's not good" and everyone gets behind him.
        Osi does the same thing, and every calls him a piece of ****. Whether you like it or not, these past few years, Osi could have made ALOT more money on another team. Now asa Giants fan, thats good for us, but how can people not see that he reserves the right to first ask for a negotiation, and now, a trade? It doesnt help that we've paid other people more than him, and given them sizeable signing bonuses...specifically Kiwi. Not that I see anything wrong with the Kiwi signing, but yea, it does cause waves with Osi for obvious reasons.</P>


        [/quote]Its the way Osi goes about asking for a new contract/a trade. Its the attitude. Its the faking of the severity of an injury not just once but twice! In one year! First before training camp he lied saying he didnt need surgery to get a new contract, and then during the season. I really believe he wasnt injured or wasnt hurt enough to the point he couldnt play. Once we started winning he magically healed. NO ONE questions that move and it drives me crazy.
        [/quote]</P>


        it's been multiple years of this man.....the guy has a boiling point lol. It's not like you can fake a surgery that isn't required lol. The severity of it, I dont know....but I dont really care about that. TC had him benched for a few games when he was able to play anyway if you remember. Osi was the one who said he was good to go, i forget what week it was.</P>
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          [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]He's well within his rights to hold out if he wants. I'm looking at this from a Giants perspective. It hurts the team. If he holds out, we not only lose the player, but we still have the cap hit. Plus its a distraction.


          And you mention Dwight Howard. How did that work out for the Magic?</P>


          The only thing I care about is the New York Football Giants. Osis will be fine either way. He'll be driving his Bentley (or whatever he drives) and pooping on women whether he gets a new deal or not.</P>


          [/quote]</P>


          Yea but thats why i said you have to look at it from both ways. the guy has money yes, but he has also played for deserved money, which he was apparently promised, yet never received. The Giants are at fault for that. That you have to admit.
          It'd be easy for you and I to say "hey that guy is rich, who cares about an extension", but we all know how sports works.</P>


          Howard and the Magic? well it ends up that they lose the best center in basketball, get nothing in return, and for Howard, thank god he only has a sore back and not a REAL injury, because if he got BADLY hurt, he would lose money signing with another team. Whereas if he was traded and signed an extension with another team, it's still guaranteed money he gets.
          So how DID it end up for the Magic? lol, they arent going anywhere except back to irellevance once they get knocked out of the playoffs.</P>


          [/quote]</P>


          "Apparently promised"?. Thats a load of crap. Even Osi said that the verbal agreement was "if he was playing at a high level". He has been relegated to a back-up position since he's not a good all round DE. His level of play has been uneven at best. He also has uneven effort as well.</P>


          Osi's deal was front loaded. he got most of his money early in the deal, which is a dream contract for a football player.</P>


          And contracts aren't a reward for past play, they are about future play. And Osi's future play is a big question mark.</P>
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]Osi does NOT want to be a Giant this season under any circumstances. He views a trade as his only chance for a big contract and it has to be this season. he will continue to be a back up in 2012 for us and after the season he'll be a year older. He knows that his chances for a pay day are shrinking as every day passes.


            In other words, he will pout and whine and complain and be a general irratant to the team.</P>


            [/quote]</P>


            I posted about this last week:
            Why do we make such a big deal about contract hold outs. sure they seem whiny and childish, but just like you said, this is Osi's only opportunity to make more money.
            In the NBA, Dwight Howard demanded a trade from Orlando, and it never happened, and everyone around the league, players analysts etc all say the same thing "it's bad business for Orlando to not deal him, youre now messing with a guy's money, and that's not good" and everyone gets behind him.
            Osi does the same thing, and every calls him a piece of ****. Whether you like it or not, these past few years, Osi could have made ALOT more money on another team. Now asa Giants fan, thats good for us, but how can people not see that he reserves the right to first ask for a negotiation, and now, a trade? It doesnt help that we've paid other people more than him, and given them sizeable signing bonuses...specifically Kiwi. Not that I see anything wrong with the Kiwi signing, but yea, it does cause waves with Osi for obvious reasons.</P>


            [/quote]Its the way Osi goes about asking for a new contract/a trade. Its the attitude. Its the faking of the severity of an injury not just once but twice! In one year! First before training camp he lied saying he didnt need surgery to get a new contract, and then during the season. I really believe he wasnt injured or wasnt hurt enough to the point he couldnt play. Once we started winning he magically healed. NO ONE questions that move and it drives me crazy.
            [/quote]</P>


            it's been multiple years of this man.....the guy has a boiling point lol. It's not like you can fake a surgery that isn't required lol. The severity of it, I dont know....but I dont really care about that. TC had him benched for a few games when he was able to play anyway if you remember. Osi was the one who said he was good to go, i forget what week it was.</P>


            [/quote]</P>


            Speaking of faking injuries, He did the opposite last year. He whined about not getting a new deal while hiding a knee injury.</P>


            He's a ****head.</P>
            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              [quote user="Morehead State"]Speaking of faking injuries, He did the opposite last year. He whined about not getting a new deal while hiding a knee injury.


              He's a ****head.</P>


              [/quote]</P>


              Dezz said he faked it....lol
              you guys appear to be on the same side, but one of you has wrong facts.</P>
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                [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]Speaking of faking injuries, He did the opposite last year. He whined about not getting a new deal while hiding a knee injury.


                He's a ****head.</p>


                [/quote]</p>


                Dezz said he faked it....lol
                you guys appear to be on the same side, but one of you has wrong facts.</p>[/quote]No i said he faked the severity of the injury he received during the regular season.

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                    [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]Speaking of faking injuries, He did the opposite last year. He whined about not getting a new deal while hiding a knee injury.


                    He's a ****head.</P>


                    [/quote]</P>


                    Dezz said he faked it....lol
                    you guys appear to be on the same side, but one of you has wrong facts.</P>


                    [/quote]</P>


                    He didn't fake it, he withheld it. And TC benched him because he got beat out. He's a pass rushing specialist. He's not an all round DE.</P>


                    Osi has an unrealistic view of his own talent.</P>


                    I would say that he should stop biting on misdirection in the running game before he considers himself an all round DE.</P>
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      Andys set to pitch for the Yanks Sunday!!!

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                        [quote user="dezzzR"]
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                        ahhh West Virginia! the Cradle of Civilization!! -__-</P>
                        Oderint Dum Metuant

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                          gotta go...half day, *****essssss!!
                          Oderint Dum Metuant

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                            [quote user="JPizzack"]

                            all this Osi to Baltimore talk is confusing as a Giants fan....
                            I hope to the football gods that the Giants are not entertaining this pathetic offer.

                            3rd rounder? Why not make a trade on Draft day if the Giants wanted something?
                            Osi for a year is far better than 120th+ pick NEXT year....</P>[/quote]

                            third rounder with the ability to be a second rounder? I think that would be more than fair
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                              [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"]

                              all this Osi to Baltimore talk is confusing as a Giants fan....
                              I hope to the football gods that the Giants are not entertaining this pathetic offer.

                              3rd rounder? Why not make a trade on Draft day if the Giants wanted something?
                              Osi for a year is far better than 120th+ pick NEXT year....</p>[/quote]Its all talk. We only have 3 DEs at the moment.
                              [/quote]

                              kiwanuka would be a DE if we lost Osi

                              and Osi isn't a depth player. Kiwi would replace his role and we regardless we need to find somebody to replace tollefson. That has nothing to do wtih Osi
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                                [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"]


                                all this Osi to Baltimore talk is confusing as a Giants fan....
                                I hope to the football gods that the Giants are not entertaining this pathetic offer.

                                3rd rounder? Why not make a trade on Draft day if the Giants wanted something?
                                Osi for a year is far better than 120th+ pick NEXT year....</P>


                                [/quote]Its all talk. We only have 3 DEs at the moment.
                                [/quote]</P>


                                Not really.* I think they are planning to use put Kiwi back at DE this season.* The Rivers trade would suggest that.* We are actually loaded at LB right now without Kiwi.</P>[/quote]

                                i agree. We have a VERY healthy LBer core with alot of possible promise
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