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  • http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...ShohYJZvIUdYbP
    pretty cool

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    • Hakeem Nicks on his sub-par numbers: "Stats are for girls."

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      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
        Combine the election result to a few dopes gloating like its a sporting event and I'm no one anyone wants to be around. I will kill before the month is out.
        I came to scary realization today, looking back over the last year, year and a half, I think unemployment is why Obama won, the more people who are unemployed the more people will vote for things like Government Run Health care and increased unemployment benefits food stamps etc etc etc....social programs right? because the more people who are unemployed the more people are going to need those problems.

        you and me morehead...we know the way out is to have a job..and we both have jobs, what people without jobs want is relief from the situation, to them Romney talking about social programs being cut...it makes them feel insecure..like he's going to take something away from them, they don't understand that the cuts in programs like those won't have any effect on them at all and that the cuts will also allow for lower taxes and thus more jobs...eventually getting them much needed jobs that will get them out of the situation they are in....but they can't think like that, all they can think about is how they need help "right now" and that's the social programs Obama is pushing.

        The problem with that is Obama (and the Democratic party in general) support these social programs way more then republicans...and because they do it actually benefits the Democratic side if more and more people become unemployed, it's a GOOD thing for democrats for unemployment to go up....it sounds crazy but that seems to be the case.

        TL : DR version for Pezz and others.

        Republican's want to cure unemployment so Social Programs aren't needed (or at least not as much)
        Democrat's want to make it so Social Programs can support everyone who needs them.

        the problem is, Democratic ideals don't "solve" the situation, they just make the situation more bearable short term, while bankrupting the country, It actually benefits Democrat's to "create" unemployment...and as we all know politicians will do "anything" to gain an advantage.
        Last edited by DavenIII; 11-08-2012, 03:31 PM.

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        • I have a job. Same one for 7.5 years now. That said, I don't see how helping people who don't have what I do is a bad thing. Your assumption is that people are lazy and just want handouts. That's quite a reach. Of course there ARE leaches on society, but to generalize the masses into one stereotype is uhh....not very nice of you, and pretty insulting to anyone who might have needed assistance at any point.

          Jobs are being created. Clearly it's not an overnight process. You speak as if the democrats ruined the economy, and losing people's jobs FOR THEM, and that businesses had no part of it.

          **** man....what would you do if you lost your job, couldnt get another, and your parents were in the same situation, and you had nothing to fall back on? I mean, do you even have a plan as to what you would do? What if it happened to JUST your parents? If you couldn't support them wouldnt you want to know that there was SOMETHING you were essentially paying for that could help them if you couldn't? Or do you just tell your parents "that sucks....better start flipping burgers, and live in my basement..."

          idk man....i think alot of ppl just never realize how good they have it. We as a country are much better off helping people who need it, KNOWING that there are going to be ppl who abuse the system, than just doing nothing at all for the people who legitimately need help.
          Oderint Dum Metuant

          It's too bad, I'm too good....

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          • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
            Hakeem Nicks on his sub-par numbers: "Stats are for girls."
            lol
            JP on Hakeem Nicks' statement about his numbers,"Get open, buddy..."
            Oderint Dum Metuant

            It's too bad, I'm too good....

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            • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
              I have a job. Same one for 7.5 years now. That said, I don't see how helping people who don't have what I do is a bad thing.
              It's not, when we can afford to do it, right now the money that goes towards helping people is being taken from business's those business's can not hire people because they have to pay for these social programs, it's a chicken or the egg situation, if the social programs weren't taking so much money from these companies then these companies would be hiring more people and less people would need these social programs.

              Originally posted by J****ack View Post
              Your assumption is that people are lazy and just want handouts.
              Just stop Pezz, nobody believes this, this is just propaganda, this is what they tell you we think, no one actually believes that so stop acting like anyone does.

              Originally posted by J****ack View Post
              You speak as if the democrats ruined the economy, and losing people's jobs FOR THEM, and that businesses had no part of it.
              All I'm saying is that it's beneficial for their re-elections for less people to have jobs...so it would make sense for them to put policies in place that would make it difficult for Companies to hire...and that seems to be what has been happening for the last 4 years.


              Originally posted by J****ack View Post
              **** man....what would you do if you lost your job, couldnt get another, and your parents were in the same situation, and you had nothing to fall back on? I mean, do you even have a plan as to what you would do? What if it happened to JUST your parents? If you couldn't support them wouldnt you want to know that there was SOMETHING you were essentially paying for that could help them if you couldn't? Or do you just tell your parents "that sucks....better start flipping burgers, and live in my basement..."
              It could not happen, I would always be able to find a job so this is an impossible situation, that's not me being conceited either, I've held over 10 different jobs over the course of my working life and have gotten every single job I wanted I've also been offered jobs as recently as last year from other companies and turned them down just because it couldn't happen to me or anyone in my family doesn't mean I don't feel for the people it can happen to though.

              Originally posted by J****ack View Post
              idk man....i think alot of ppl just never realize how good they have it. We as a country are much better off helping people who need it, KNOWING that there are going to be ppl who abuse the system, than just doing nothing at all for the people who legitimately need help.
              what you don't understand Pezz is that I WANT to help people, I want to help people really badly...but the way to help them is to get them jobs...not give them food stamps.

              Food Stamps/Welfare/Health care...these are the REASONS jobs are being lost and less jobs are being created.

              Romney wanted to help these people out of the situation they are in, he wanted to make it so less people were dependent on the government systems.

              Obama (and Dem's in Washington) want as many people as possible to be unemployed...because when they are unemployed they are dependent on welfare and food stamps...**** is like heroin, Dem's push the heroin (social programs) to keep people under their control, they do this at the expense of jobs...if they didn't push the social programs so hard then companies would have more money...to hire more people...thus fewer people would need the social programs...fewer people dependent on social programs means fewer guaranteed votes to the Dem's though, so as long as they are in control it won't happen...Job Growth is Democratic kryptonite.
              Last edited by DavenIII; 11-08-2012, 05:06 PM.

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              • Originally posted by DavenIII View Post
                dems want as many people as possible to be unemployed...because when they are unemployed they are dependent on welfare and food stamps...**** is like heroin, Dem's push the heroin (social programs) to keep people under their control, they do this at the expense of jobs...if they didn't push the social programs so hard then companies would have more money...to hire more people...thus fewer people would need the social programs...fewer people dependent on social programs means fewer guaranteed votes to the Dem's though, so as long as they are in control it won't happen...Job Growth is Democratic kryptonite.
                and you called my post propaganda? wow lol
                Oderint Dum Metuant

                It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
                  I have a job. Same one for 7.5 years now. That said, I don't see how helping people who don't have what I do is a bad thing. Your assumption is that people are lazy and just want handouts. That's quite a reach. Of course there ARE leaches on society, but to generalize the masses into one stereotype is uhh....not very nice of you, and pretty insulting to anyone who might have needed assistance at any point.

                  Jobs are being created. Clearly it's not an overnight process. You speak as if the democrats ruined the economy, and losing people's jobs FOR THEM, and that businesses had no part of it.

                  **** man....what would you do if you lost your job, couldnt get another, and your parents were in the same situation, and you had nothing to fall back on? I mean, do you even have a plan as to what you would do? What if it happened to JUST your parents? If you couldn't support them wouldnt you want to know that there was SOMETHING you were essentially paying for that could help them if you couldn't? Or do you just tell your parents "that sucks....better start flipping burgers, and live in my basement..."

                  idk man....i think alot of ppl just never realize how good they have it. We as a country are much better off helping people who need it, KNOWING that there are going to be ppl who abuse the system, than just doing nothing at all for the people who legitimately need help.
                  Jobs are NOT being created.
                  It takes 150,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth.
                  There have been about 4MM new jobs created since the tunraround. Not since Obama because president, those nukbers are horrific.
                  So it takes 1.8MM/year to break even and in the last 3 1/2 years they have averaged 95,000 jobs.
                  Now combine that with the historical facts that after a recession , jobs increase at a much greater rate.
                  In a normal economy we should have about 200,000 new jobs average per month. In a recovery that number should be about 400,000.
                  Obama's numbers are 95,000.
                  Its a horrific record.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • is it too early to start Obama 2016 posters?
                    https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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                    • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
                      and you called my post propaganda? wow lol
                      no one has suggested to me that this is the case, It's just my opinion on what I see, you are repeating talking points thus propoganda...I'm just calling it like I see it, maybe I'm wrong but all the evidence points towards my conclusion...at least that's how I see it.

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                      • Originally posted by DavenIII View Post
                        no one has suggested to me that this is the case, It's just my opinion on what I see, you are repeating talking points thus propoganda...I'm just calling it like I see it, maybe I'm wrong but all the evidence points towards my conclusion...at least that's how I see it.
                        You are right. He is just regurgitating the Dem. talking points.

                        I will say this and you may not agree. There have been a lot of recriminations within the GOP about Mitt Romney. Well he had to navigate a crazy GOP primary. It was said this morning on morning Joe. They put cement shoes on him and then blamed him for sinking.

                        My point is that Romney would have been a truly great President. A solid fiscal hawk and a social moderate. Its the old "be careful what you ask for" deal. Now these folks have it. The irony is thats its his biggest supporters (the young voters) who will have to pay the tab for this crushing debt. Not guys like me.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Honestly....if you guys agree with each other on everything, then why do you either bother posting about it? lol

                          It's just me here.....I don't see anyone else other then the occasional Matt and Byron appearance here to defend my beliefs....it doesn't matter to me that we don't see eye to eye....but not once have I ever brought this stuff up....I just constantly have to respond for the sake of YOU thinking youre winning an arrgument. It's old. and I can't escape it anymore. I stayed out of the political talks in this forum FOREVER, but i couldn't any longer.

                          But i tell ya what, I regret it...I can't even go out in public anymore without defending myself to someone....everyone's a ****ing expert apparently.

                          I'm going to use this post to quit these talks. Not because i dont care, not because you call me uninformed, regurgitating dem talking points.....but because it doesn't technically belong here, and Morehead as a prime example is in no state of mind to speak rationally to me in general, but even more so post-election. I'm done.
                          Oderint Dum Metuant

                          It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                          • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
                            Honestly....if you guys agree with each other on everything, then why do you either bother posting about it? lol

                            It's just me here.....I don't see anyone else other then the occasional Matt and Byron appearance here to defend my beliefs....it doesn't matter to me that we don't see eye to eye....but not once have I ever brought this stuff up....I just constantly have to respond for the sake of YOU thinking youre winning an arrgument. It's old. and I can't escape it anymore. I stayed out of the political talks in this forum FOREVER, but i couldn't any longer.

                            But i tell ya what, I regret it...I can't even go out in public anymore without defending myself to someone....everyone's a ****ing expert apparently.

                            I'm going to use this post to quit these talks. Not because i dont care, not because you call me uninformed, regurgitating dem talking points.....but because it doesn't technically belong here, and Morehead as a prime example is in no state of mind to speak rationally to me in general, but even more so post-election. I'm done.

                            We are citizens. Its our responsibility to be experts to a certain extent. Its our responsiibility to have some basic understanding of economics and the state of the world. And I'm over the frustration. Its on to the mid terms in 2014.
                            My fear is the coming fiscal cliff and both the President (who won his election) and the GOP House (who won their elections) have dug in and seem destined for a political war. Which is exactly why Obama needed to be defeated.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
                              Honestly....if you guys agree with each other on everything, then why do you either bother posting about it? lol

                              It's just me here.....I don't see anyone else other then the occasional Matt and Byron appearance here to defend my beliefs....it doesn't matter to me that we don't see eye to eye....but not once have I ever brought this stuff up....I just constantly have to respond for the sake of YOU thinking youre winning an arrgument. It's old. and I can't escape it anymore. I stayed out of the political talks in this forum FOREVER, but i couldn't any longer.

                              But i tell ya what, I regret it...I can't even go out in public anymore without defending myself to someone....everyone's a ****ing expert apparently.

                              I'm going to use this post to quit these talks. Not because i dont care, not because you call me uninformed, regurgitating dem talking points.....but because it doesn't technically belong here, and Morehead as a prime example is in no state of mind to speak rationally to me in general, but even more so post-election. I'm done.
                              I think everyone in here keeps it pretty rational, except for Matts gloating.

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                              • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                                I think everyone in here keeps it pretty rational, except for Matts gloating.
                                If you think he does it for any other reason than to grind your gears, youre wrong. lol

                                Matt's a smart guy, he's better at this **** than I am....but Matt's not here right now, is he? lol

                                I just don't want to do it anymore, and I encourage you all to do the same. Regardless of where we live, what we believe, there's really only one reason we all came to this forum. Because we're Giants fans....
                                I just don't like it anymore. It's bad enough we're a country divided on issues....I don't see the point of doing it here also.
                                Oderint Dum Metuant

                                It's too bad, I'm too good....

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