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  • Originally posted by DavenIII View Post
    The problem Byron, is that the government right now is trying to tell you that because your business made more gross money then most employee's make gross (without having to pay for contractors and overhead) that YOU are rich. it's not that you guys are uneducated, you simple aren't understanding what we are saying, what we are saying Byron...is that we don't think someone like you who runs your own small business should be considered rich...hated by people and punished through increased taxation.

    if you ran a small business like that Byron then you know how wrong it is to tax people who are running small business that are making 250k a year.

    I don't know how much your business made...but lets assume you made 150-160k gross a year running your business, net take home you probably took home what 50-60k of that? after paying for materials for your workers, etc etc
    Granted I'm just spit-balling numbers here...

    but if you are being taxed as though you make 160k instead of 60k does that make sense?

    these people being taxed on 250K.... the MAJORITY of that 250k is already going to employee's to contractors to other types of overhead...they are only really taking home a minority of that money...and yet...even that is apparently too much.

    the proposed tax increases spit in the faces of anyone trying to run their own small business, why is our government discouraging small business, that's what I want to know.
    are you telling me they are going to tax people on there gross before tax right offs !.....come on man!!!

    is all spin ,bull ,scare tactics....stop being gullible man !








    just playing man... hang on for the ride it will be alright if not well then it won't ....and the dollar won't be worth any thing and we'll all be broke
    Last edited by byron; 11-21-2012, 12:26 PM.

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    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFSGhasyHhY
      this little girl is awesome

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      • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
        what's really sad is that people dont consider equality, rights, and freedoms "real issues"....

        "Hate the rich" isn't spin......it's more like "make the rich do their part".....which they dont.
        They don't? The top 2% pay much more than half the taxes.
        From where do you get the claim that they don't pay what they should? Oh Yeah.....Democrat talking points.
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • Originally posted by byron View Post
          maybe we need some numbers on who is rich and who is not does it start with an income of 250,000 ? where? I ran a small business for 25 years signed many contracts with the banks....never had a full time employee...I did subcontract a lot of people over the years, plumbers ,drywall guys ,electricians, ect.. all of these guys were like me, some father and son teams and such...self employed business owners....that's small business to me....While the business was good to me I'm a long way from being rich....I made a decent living saved a little money that's all ...while this last collapse of banks and such didn't put most of the guys I used out it sure hurt their bank accounts....
          So forgive me for not being clear i my previous post about the rich ....I don't give two ****s about politics and I don't have to be told to dislike the rich... I've dealt with a few and they are the worst to work with... imo....and that's a whole other subject...but whatever you go ahead and judge people call them uneducated gullible fools if you want......I can tell you this the rich have been lining their pockets of the backs and lives of these same people forever with little care about their problems....There is a whole world of American workers out there MH many struggling to feed their families on the wages these rich cats pay .....these politians need to be locked in a room till they come up with a compromised plans that are good for all the people of this country....do their jobs ....
          Thanks for the lecture Byron. I wouldn't know what its like to be rich.
          I've known people from all income levels and people are just people. I've known ****heads who were poor, middle class and rich. I've known great people who have been poor, middle class and rich.
          This notion that some socio-economic level has a monopoly on human goodness is pure crap.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            Thanks for the lecture Byron. I wouldn't know what its like to be rich.
            I've known people from all income levels and people are just people. I've known ****heads who were poor, middle class and rich. I've known great people who have been poor, middle class and rich.
            This notion that some socio-economic level has a monopoly on human goodness is pure crap.
            rich people have a far more entitled attitude than anyone else in society.
            Oderint Dum Metuant

            It's too bad, I'm too good....

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            • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
              rich people have a far more entitled attitude than anyone else in society.
              Really......
              That very Puritanical of you ****ey. You're 4 centuries behind.
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • Originally posted by J****ack View Post
                rich people have a far more entitled attitude than anyone else in society.
                I beg to differ, I thought the whole occupy movement was a bunch of hipsters with an entitled attitude. They all wear the same friggin glasses too, what the hells up with that?

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                • Come on not one comment on that little girl. Shes ****ing nasty

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                  • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                    I beg to differ, I thought the whole occupy movement was a bunch of hipsters with an entitled attitude. They all wear the same friggin glasses too, what the hells up with that?
                    yeah those friggin 99%rs don't feel entitled....... Right.

                    "Pay for my healthcare...find me a job....pay for my college....give me free birth control......, all you rich people pay for my lifel"

                    How about going out and earning it Dumbasses!!!!!
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      Thanks for the lecture Byron. I wouldn't know what its like to be rich.
                      I've known people from all income levels and people are just people. I've known ****heads who were poor, middle class and rich. I've known great people who have been poor, middle class and rich.
                      This notion that some socio-economic level has a monopoly on human goodness is pure crap.
                      I'm not smart enough to give a lecture and didn't mean to come across like I was just explaining what I think small business is....and your right I shouldn't have grouped all rich people up as bad people wasn't really my intent......ah well my bad sorry......I add this to my thinking its time all goodness that can be conjured up come together and get this mess straited up.. the political game is old and killing this country....now I will bow out....

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                      • Originally posted by byron View Post
                        I'm not smart enough to give a lecture and didn't mean to come across like I was just explaining what I think small business is....and your right I shouldn't have grouped all rich people up as bad people wasn't really my intent......ah well my bad sorry......I add this to my thinking its time all goodness that can be conjured up come together and get this mess straited up.. the political game is old and killing this country....now I will bow out....
                        Stop apologizing Byron....I love it when you go off.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          yeah those friggin 99%rs don't feel entitled....... Right.

                          "Pay for my healthcare...find me a job....pay for my college....give me free birth control......, all you rich people pay for my lifel"

                          How about going out and earning it Dumbasses!!!!!
                          who gives themselfs raises, best healthcare in the country and probably the best retirement plan in the country....man you take one side so hard it unbelivable... there is a lot of middle ground man....like the working poor..... people who are ****ing trying and doing jobs that need to be done.....Idk man.....your grouping all those who don't have health care as losers who don't work people need healthcare ...come on man!
                          Last edited by byron; 11-21-2012, 01:32 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                            Stop apologizing Byron....I love it when you go off.
                            its just my nature I don't want to ofend anyone ..I hate politics it angrys me that they can't come together...and right now its important that they do... the future of this country is and always was in they hands....I'm not saying one side or the other is right nor do I think either side is ...the answer is something is something in the middle and they need to get to it....we all want whats best

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                            • Originally posted by byron View Post
                              are you telling me they are going to tax people on there gross before tax right offs !.....come on man!!!

                              is all spin ,bull ,scare tactics....stop being gullible man !
                              Nah, they aren't going to tax people on the gross, but when they say "we will only raise taxes on those people making 250K or more" they are using the gross number, they are purposefully being misleading, all politicians do that, but this group of dem's is particularly good at it, they will raise taxes on the a large portion of everyday people.

                              they are defining rich as anyone who grosses 250k a year...and MANY MANY MANY of those people are small business owners scrapping to get by.

                              I don't know when scrapping to get by qualified as rich...but that's who Obama wants to raise taxes on.
                              Last edited by DavenIII; 11-21-2012, 02:00 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by byron View Post
                                who gives themselfs raises, best healthcare in the country and probably the best retirement plan in the country....man you take one side so hard it unbelivable... there is a lot of middle ground man....like the working poor..... people who are ****ing trying and doing jobs that need to be done.....Idk man.....your grouping all those who don't have health care as losers who don't work people need healthcare ...come on man!
                                It's what our politicians want, there should be no such thing as a "base" that comes out to vote.

                                but the Dem's have their "base" thinking the "rich" are these slick wall-street guys who only care about coming up with schemes to make themselves more money off of other peoples hard work, and republicans want their "base" to think that everyone on the governments dole is some lazy person who just wants to be taken care of.

                                neither of those portrayals are true.

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