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  • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
    ouuh exoitic
    yea i have another friend who is also from Ecuador who says that young ecuadorians treat americans like rock stars. lol

    He says that even though he's FROM Ecuador, the fact that he lives in America, people treat him like a king haha. weird, but soudns good to me!
    Oderint Dum Metuant

    It's too bad, I'm too good....

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    • Morehead, check this out:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...0274--mlb.html
      Oderint Dum Metuant

      It's too bad, I'm too good....

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      • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
        Well I guess it starts in earnest now with the guys not getting in due to steroids.
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
          Well I guess it starts in earnest now with the guys not getting in due to steroids.
          It's hard to wrap my head around, still....

          I think the players with the steroid issues, fine, leave them out....but players associated due to the era? cmon...

          Bagwell and Biggio were leaders at their positions for a long time. I cant believe Tim Raines isn't in yet....And Morris should be a shoe-in also....
          Oderint Dum Metuant

          It's too bad, I'm too good....

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          • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
            It's hard to wrap my head around, still....

            I think the players with the steroid issues, fine, leave them out....but players associated due to the era? cmon...

            Bagwell and Biggio were leaders at their positions for a long time. I cant believe Tim Raines isn't in yet....And Morris should be a shoe-in also....
            In my view, none of those guys deserve to be in.
            I was shocked that Kirby Puckett got in on the first ballot.

            To get back to the steroid thing. There are sports writers who will never vote for anyone who has even a chance of having taken steroids. No one knows if Bagwell or Biggio were juicing. Why would you think they didn't? At least that's their position.
            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
              In my view, none of those guys deserve to be in.
              I was shocked that Kirby Puckett got in on the first ballot.

              To get back to the steroid thing. There are sports writers who will never vote for anyone who has even a chance of having taken steroids. No one knows if Bagwell or Biggio were juicing. Why would you think they didn't? At least that's their position.
              Well actually that's my point....

              So now everyone is guilty until proven innocent? That doesn't work. There's no way to PROVE people innocent, only guilty, with test results. If nothing came out, why would we hold that against them.
              Oderint Dum Metuant

              It's too bad, I'm too good....

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              • How sick would it be if we picked up Ryan.

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                • Originally posted by JPizzack View Post
                  Well actually that's my point....

                  So now everyone is guilty until proven innocent? That doesn't work. There's no way to PROVE people innocent, only guilty, with test results. If nothing came out, why would we hold that against them.
                  I'm just telling you that some sports writers do and will continue to. Based on performance and nothing else, Clemens, Bonds and Sosa would be shoe ins. There is a prevailing belief that most players were juicing during that time. Right or wrong, its going to be hard for players to overcome.
                  As far as Bagwell and Biggio..they were nice players but not quite HOF status as far as I'm concerned. Morris isn't either IMO, but he does get something for great post season play. But to me just falls short.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                    How sick would it be if we picked up Ryan.
                    It would be a nightmare. His scheme is ****. He had no answer for a hobbled RGIII.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      It would be a nightmare. His scheme is ****. He had no answer for a hobbled RGIII.
                      His defense ranked much higher than ours. And the cowboys were beat up. Lost one of their best linebackers.
                      All of Perrys numbers over three years scream for a new DC, besides picks. And the int argument, They only have those picks because they get thrown on so much, see Ross last year, and TT the previous year.

                      Neither did we.

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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        I'm just telling you that some sports writers do and will continue to. Based on performance and nothing else, Clemens, Bonds and Sosa would be shoe ins. There is a prevailing belief that most players were juicing during that time. Right or wrong, its going to be hard for players to overcome.
                        As far as Bagwell and Biggio..they were nice players but not quite HOF status as far as I'm concerned. Morris isn't either IMO, but he does get something for great post season play. But to me just falls short.
                        Biggio, I could see your point....I mean he was one of the greatest 2Bs of the past 30 years, easily....but its not like he was a leading candidate or anything for MVP regularly.

                        But Bagwell....just look at the seasons, man. Although he didnt have as long a career as some of the other guys, statistically he had a phenomenal career. Right up there in production with Griffey, McGuire, Bonds, etc etc etc.

                        If he had come out of the gate sooner, and played a few more seasons at that level, I'm not sure we'd be having this discussion lol
                        Oderint Dum Metuant

                        It's too bad, I'm too good....

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                        • Giants opponents scored 344 points, or 56 fewer than their foes scored in 2011.

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                          • Compared to Doug Martin, Wilson fell short of having the most all-purpose yards as a rookie -- by ONE YARD!

                            bahhh!

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                            • The Giants’ defense gave up a franchise-worst 6,134 yards, up from 6,022 in 2011 -- the only two times the Giants have ever given up 6,000

                              Thats ****ing pathetic. No argument in the world can support Perry with stats like that. We better have more ints if were getting thrown on like that.
                              Last edited by dezzzR; 01-09-2013, 11:54 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                                Compared to Doug Martin, Wilson fell short of having the most all-purpose yards as a rookie -- by ONE YARD!

                                bahhh!
                                well..he was a return man.....Martin strictly played RB and had a great season.
                                Oderint Dum Metuant

                                It's too bad, I'm too good....

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