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    SAINTS' BOUNTY SCANDAL: WHAT'S THE PROPER PUNISHMENT?

    "The NFL announced on Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained
    a bounty program during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons that
    targeted opponents with an intent to injure. A lengthy investigation found that
    payments were administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who now
    serves the same role with the St. Louis Rams. At the height of
    this "pay for performance" program during the Saints' Super Bowl run in the 2009
    playoffs, payouts might have reached a staggering $50,000.


    What kind of punishment should the NFL dole out to the Saints organization,
    Gregg Williams and any other players/coaches involved?" Read more...
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    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    [quote user="RoanokeFan"]SAINTS' BOUNTY SCANDAL:* WHAT'S THE PROPER PUNISHMENT?

    "The NFL announced on Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained
    a bounty program during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons that
    targeted opponents with an intent to injure. A lengthy investigation found that
    payments were administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who now
    serves the same role with the St. Louis Rams. At the height of
    this "pay for performance" program during the Saints' Super Bowl run in the 2009
    playoffs, payouts might have reached a staggering $50,000.


    What kind of punishment should the NFL dole out to the Saints organization,
    Gregg Williams and any other players/coaches involved?"* Read more...
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    Since it has come out that Williams also had this program the 3 years he was with the Redskins, at the VERY LEAST Williams should be prohibited from working any position in the NFL for at least 1 full year, or more in my opinion.

    And since it has also come out that Payton at the very least knew there was such an unofficial program while it was going on, rest assured he will face a stiff fine--I mean STIFF, like the 6 figure fine levied against Belichick for "spygate"--and may even be suspended fpr a few games.

    No doubt there will be 1 maybe 2 forfeited draft picks by Saints as well.

    Goodell doesn't **** around when a clear violation has been revealed, as we all should know by now.

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    • #3
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      I think one year is Wwwwaaaayyyyy to little.Let's see, hedid this for 3 years with the Saints and3 with the skins for total of 6.... maybe we should go back and see how many players were injured because of this bounty crap. I think this is a case where he should be suspened for 3 years and both he and the two teams should be heavily fined. What BB did was cheating, this was anintent to injure and possibly end a career. Disgusting!!

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        I hate the saints and their ****y attitude.... Any punishment that comes their way is welcomed..... Plus the mentality of play to hurt a player is that of a group of low lives, imo

        Stand with Cruz!
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          Like Spygate, this will probably be talked about to ad nausiem.

          Saints are in deep ish.
          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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            [quote user="wolfie"]I think one year is Wwwwaaaayyyyy to little.*Let's see, he*did this for 3 years with the Saints and*3 with the skins for total of 6.... maybe we should go back and see how many players were injured because of this bounty crap. I think this is a case where he should be suspened for 3 years and both he and the two teams should be heavily fined. What BB did was cheating, this was an*intent to injure and possibly end a career. Disgusting!![/quote]

            I completely agree with you. I was being conservative. This is far, far worse than any "spygate". This Buddy Ryan territory.

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              They were saying on sport center how the punishment may end up being much worse then even spygate was.

              Sucks for them :/
              "...two minute drill at the end of each quarter, Ya'know with the wind like this blowing mooch and marshall into the ocean...If that's behind me I think were getting 3 from 70 so holla at your boy. IF YOU DON"T PICK ME THAT'S A JOKE RIGHT?" - Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker

              Complain?, ain't Nobody got time for dat!

              GO GIANTS!

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                Re: SAINTS' BOUNTY SCANDAL: WHAT'S THE PROPER PUNISHMENT?

                wow...the Saints are in some deep ***

                this is worse than Spygate...
                #80

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                  Taking away ALL their picks should teach them a great lesson

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                    to me this is at the top of crimes for the nfl. we are talking about hurting other people. this is one of the few things that deserve to give the people involved a lifetime ban.

                    just like to add since its illegal to to hurt people outside the nfl i think it should be the same as an assault charge. we aren't talking about hard hittting football, we are talking about purposely trying to injure players

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                      "[quote user="Garbloz"]to me this is at the top of crimes for the nfl. we are talking about hurting other people. this is one of the few things that deserve to give the people involved a lifetime ban.

                      just like to add since its illegal to to hurt people outside the nfl i think it should be the same as an assault charge. we aren't talking about hard hittting football, we are talking about purposely trying to injure players[/quote]
                      This is nothing new. I think we all know this has gone on in the NFL probably since the league began. If it wasn't systemic, at least it was done with a nod and a wink amongst players and even coaches.

                      But that doesn't make it okay, any more than bigotry, fascism or any other despicable behavior. All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

                      It's bad enough when players do this like a "friendly" pool or wager. But for it to be instituted by a coach, and for the head coach to know about it and not put a stop to it immediately, is almost incomprehensible.

                      This is nothing like SpyGate. This is much worse and this scandal will explode. I wouldn't be surprised if other players come forward from other teams where things similar were going on, going back decades. Get your popcorn ready. The conversation is just beginning.

                      The penalty? I couldn't fathom a guess.

                      GO JAI-YANTS!!

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                        Eh, the main issue is the Saints were incredibly stupid enough to organize a transparent extracurricular payment system that exceeds the salary cap.

                        Players cloud incentives for teammates through dinner, electronics, jewelry etc. all the time.

                        I'll wait till I hear details of how they were trying to hurt players. Headhunting occurs on every team.

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                          [quote user="bLuereverie"]Eh, the main issue is the Saints were incredibly stupid enough to organize a transparent extracurricular payment system that exceeds the salary cap.

                          Players cloud incentives for teammates through dinner, electronics, jewelry etc. all the time.

                          I'll wait till I hear details of how they were trying to hurt players. Headhunting occurs on every team.[/quote]

                          Your stating opinion and supposition as fact.

                          You have no idea what goes on on every team. I very seriously doubt every team doesnt have a bounty system. I would argue they are quite rare judging by the player's reaction to this info.

                          I know the NFLPA is reeling from this scandal because it undermines their argument that it is the LEAGUE, not the players, that have been negligent in the healthcare and safety of players. When a story like this comes out, that it is in fact the players not only actively trying to hurt each other but PAYING for it, the Players association arguments go out the window.

                          When you have players injured by the supposed "bounty" Saints now consulting attorneys with possible litigation to follow, I think that says that headhunting is in fact NOT the norm. If some players are that disgusted, how could it be?
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                            I don't know what kind of punishment will be handed out by Goodell. By some people standards, the punishment will be too lenient.</P>


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                            But I would like to see a huge fine, loss of draft picks, and possibly suspensions to the players and/or the coaches that were involved. I have already read how there could be lawsuits against the players that took part in this bounty program.</P>


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                            Greg Williams has a track record of being involved with borderline/dirty play defenses, back to his days with the Titans and Jeff Fisher. Hopefully he suffers some consequences even if he is now the Rams D coordinator. He is deserving of a fine and some suspension time.</P>

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                            • #15
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                              If the saints did it maybe some other teams did.

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