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    Let me just say something about Terrell Owens here. I was watching those dopes on Mike and Mike and they were talking about T.O.'s chances of being a first ballot Hall of Famer. Fat Mike talked about T.O.'s "off the field" problems as being a problem.</P>


    Yes he was irritating. yes he was annoying. Yes he was a "me" guy. But T.O. didn't have a single "off the field" problem that I can remember. I can't remember once his getting arrested, hitting a women, having drug problems, having a DUI...etc....</P>


    No one in their right mind would suggest that he isn't a good enough football player to qualify.</P>


    From what I can see he has always been a solid citizen. A guy who never got into trouble.</P>


    Isn't he the kind of guy the NFL should hold up as a good example off the field?</P>


    Yes he's annoying. But if that it the criteria for being exempted from the Hall, they need to re-examine thier standards.</P>


    And as the President of the 'Annoying and Obnoxios Club of America', I would personally have a problem with it.</P>


    T.O.: Great player, annoying but seemingly good guy.</P>
    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

  • #2
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    By off field, I believe he was referring to locker room.

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    • #3
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      Various sports hall of fames have racists, deadbeat dads, and felons. I have no problem with Owens getting in. He has the numbers that tower wr's that are already in. Pete Rose and Barry Bonds should both be in MLB's hall of fame as well.

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      • #4
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        [quote user="sharick88"]Various sports hall of fames have racists, deadbeat dads, and felons. I have no problem with Owens getting in. He has the numbers that tower wr's that are already in. Pete Rose and Barry Bonds should both be in MLB's hall of fame as well.[/quote]

        Bonds and Rose's respective cases are not really the same as T.O.'s though. Let's face it...Bonds cheated, and Pete Rose blatantly broke the rules, then subsequently lied about it for YEARS before finally coming clean. As far as I can tell, T.O. has always been on the straight and narrow, so it's not even a debate for me...he's a HOFer easy. I know what you're trying to say though...petty bias can play a role in the exclusion or certain players...just ask Bill Parcells. Hopefully that isn't the case for Owens when his number is called.

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        • #5
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          [quote user="ru_gmen55"][quote user="sharick88"]Various sports hall of fames have racists, deadbeat dads, and felons. I have no problem with Owens getting in. He has the numbers that tower wr's that are already in. Pete Rose and Barry Bonds should both be in MLB's hall of fame as well.[/quote]

          Bonds and Rose's respective cases are not really the same as T.O.'s though. Let's face it...Bonds cheated, and Pete Rose blatantly broke the rules, then subsequently lied about it for YEARS before finally coming clean. As far as I can tell, T.O. has always been on the straight and narrow, so it's not even a debate for me...he's a HOFer easy. I know what you're trying to say though...petty bias can play a role in the exclusion or certain players...just ask Bill Parcells. Hopefully that isn't the case for Owens when his number is called.[/quote]

          I know. I was just saying that I am pretty open minded about the hall of fame in general. I can see collusion in Owens' future when it comes to his hall of fame chances. I was pretty happy when Dennis Rodman got his name called. The NBA got that one right. The NFL better get this one right about TwO

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          • #6
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            As much as I disliked T.O., I've heard he is actually a nice guy off the field who takes care of his fans. Sure, he might be a diva, but he was a great WR for the 49ers and Eagles (and sort of the Cowboys).

            BTW, I always loved Rodman.

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            • #7
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              Man, I was so sad to see TO get kicked off the IFL team. I just moved back to Allen, and was looking forward to seeing what the old man could do.

              Totally agree with Moorehead State. Guy was a competitor, came to play every sunday, and put every ounce of emotion into his job. That same emotion that made him such a headcase also made him such an outstanding WR. Until some report comes out with a list of felonies, he deserves to be 1st ballot.

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              • #8
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                [quote user="sharick88"][quote user="ru_gmen55"][quote user="sharick88"]Various sports hall of fames have racists, deadbeat dads, and felons. I have no problem with Owens getting in. He has the numbers that tower wr's that are already in. Pete Rose and Barry Bonds should both be in MLB's hall of fame as well.[/quote]

                Bonds and Rose's respective cases are not really the same as T.O.'s though. Let's face it...Bonds cheated, and Pete Rose blatantly broke the rules, then subsequently lied about it for YEARS before finally coming clean. As far as I can tell, T.O. has always been on the straight and narrow, so it's not even a debate for me...he's a HOFer easy. I know what you're trying to say though...petty bias can play a role in the exclusion or certain players...just ask Bill Parcells. Hopefully that isn't the case for Owens when his number is called.[/quote]

                I know. I was just saying that I am pretty open minded about the hall of fame in general. I can see collusion in Owens' future when it comes to his hall of fame chances. I was pretty happy when Dennis Rodman got his name called. The NBA got that one right. The NFL better get this one right about TwO[/quote]

                Yeah I hear ya...the HOF should be the best players to take the field. Ty Cobb was considered one of the worst human beings of to ever live, and he's in...haha.

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                • #9
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                  [quote user="ru_gmen55"][quote user="sharick88"][quote user="ru_gmen55"][quote user="sharick88"]Various sports hall of fames have racists, deadbeat dads, and felons. I have no problem with Owens getting in. He has the numbers that tower wr's that are already in. Pete Rose and Barry Bonds should both be in MLB's hall of fame as well.[/quote]

                  Bonds and Rose's respective cases are not really the same as T.O.'s though. Let's face it...Bonds cheated, and Pete Rose blatantly broke the rules, then subsequently lied about it for YEARS before finally coming clean. As far as I can tell, T.O. has always been on the straight and narrow, so it's not even a debate for me...he's a HOFer easy. I know what you're trying to say though...petty bias can play a role in the exclusion or certain players...just ask Bill Parcells. Hopefully that isn't the case for Owens when his number is called.[/quote]

                  I know. I was just saying that I am pretty open minded about the hall of fame in general. I can see collusion in Owens' future when it comes to his hall of fame chances. I was pretty happy when Dennis Rodman got his name called. The NBA got that one right. The NFL better get this one right about TwO[/quote]

                  Yeah I hear ya...the HOF should be the best players to take the field. Ty Cobb was considered one of the worst human beings of to ever live, and he's in...haha.[/quote]

                  Everybody hated him. I read a biography on him and I was shocked. His teammates didn't even want him on the team because he was such a jerk.

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                  • #10
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                    [quote user="Morehead State"]

                    Let me just say something about Terrell Owens here.* I was watching those dopes on Mike and Mike and they were talking about T.O.'s chances of being a first ballot Hall of Famer.* Fat Mike talked about T.O.'s "off the field" problems as being a problem.</P>


                    Yes he was irritating.* yes he was annoying.* Yes he was a "me" guy.* But T.O. didn't have a single "off the field" problem that I can remember.* I can't remember once his getting arrested, hitting a women, having drug problems, having a DUI...etc....</P>


                    No one in their right mind would suggest that he isn't a good enough football player to qualify.</P>


                    From what I can see he has always been a solid citizen.* A guy who never got into trouble.</P>


                    Isn't he the kind of guy the NFL should hold up as a good example off the field?</P>


                    Yes he's annoying.* But if that it the criteria for being exempted from the Hall, they need to re-examine thier standards.</P>


                    And as the President of the 'Annoying and Obnoxios Club of America', I would personally have a problem with it.</P>


                    T.O.:* Great player, annoying but seemingly good guy.</P>[/quote]

                    Yeah, he'd probably be in the Hall on first ballot--if it weren't for Garcia, McNabb, Romo, whoever-was-the-QB-for Buffalo-when he was there, and for Palmer. Just ask Owens. They all hurt his career by just not throwing to him enough. Just think of what his stats could have been.

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                    • #11
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                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJjTtpK8mYs

                      This seems pretty appropriate for this thread
                      "...two minute drill at the end of each quarter, Ya'know with the wind like this blowing mooch and marshall into the ocean...If that's behind me I think were getting 3 from 70 so holla at your boy. IF YOU DON"T PICK ME THAT'S A JOKE RIGHT?" - Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker

                      Complain?, ain't Nobody got time for dat!

                      GO GIANTS!

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                      • #12
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                        [quote user="Morehead State"]

                        Let me just say something about Terrell Owens here. I was watching those dopes on Mike and Mike and they were talking about T.O.'s chances of being a first ballot Hall of Famer. Fat Mike talked about T.O.'s "off the field" problems as being a problem.</p>


                        Yes he was irritating. yes he was annoying. Yes he was a "me" guy. But T.O. didn't have a single "off the field" problem that I can remember. I can't remember once his getting arrested, hitting a women, having drug problems, having a DUI...etc....</p>


                        No one in their right mind would suggest that he isn't a good enough football player to qualify.</p>


                        From what I can see he has always been a solid citizen. A guy who never got into trouble.</p>


                        Isn't he the kind of guy the NFL should hold up as a good example off the field?</p>


                        Yes he's annoying. But if that it the criteria for being exempted from the Hall, they need to re-examine thier standards.</p>


                        And as the President of the 'Annoying and Obnoxios Club of America', I would personally have a problem with it.</p>


                        T.O.: Great player, annoying but seemingly good guy.</p>[/quote]

                        Nice guy hes a real stand up guy NOT Just have to read about him HERE problem solved.
                        Bill Loyal to the NYG logo

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                        • #13
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                          [quote user="Morehead State"]


                          Let me just say something about Terrell Owens here. I was watching those dopes on Mike and Mike and they were talking about T.O.'s chances of being a first ballot Hall of Famer. Fat Mike talked about T.O.'s "off the field" problems as being a problem.</P>


                          Yes he was irritating. yes he was annoying. Yes he was a "me" guy. But T.O. didn't have a single "off the field" problem that I can remember. I can't remember once his getting arrested, hitting a women, having drug problems, having a DUI...etc....</P>


                          No one in their right mind would suggest that he isn't a good enough football player to qualify.</P>


                          From what I can see he has always been a solid citizen. A guy who never got into trouble.</P>


                          Isn't he the kind of guy the NFL should hold up as a good example off the field?</P>


                          Yes he's annoying. But if that it the criteria for being exempted from the Hall, they need to re-examine thier standards.</P>


                          And as the President of the 'Annoying and Obnoxios Club of America', I would personally have a problem with it.</P>


                          T.O.: Great player, annoying but seemingly good guy.</P>


                          [/quote]</P>


                          You had me until the "good guy" part.</P>


                          He is a guy that has basically caused conflict wherever he has gone. He has children that he doesn't see or support financially. I don't know him so I can't say definitively whether he is a "good guy" or not . . . but what is out there in the public certainly doesn't seem to paint the picture of a "good guy". </P>


                          That being said, being a "good guy" is not a prerequisite for HOF admission. He was a great player and by all accounts worked hard in practice and in games. His SB performance coming off of a broken leg was unbelievable and very underrated. He is a HOFer without a doubt.</P>


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                          • #14
                            Re: Terrell Owens

                            [quote user="Morehead State"]

                            Let me just say something about Terrell Owens here.* I was watching those dopes on Mike and Mike and they were talking about T.O.'s chances of being a first ballot Hall of Famer.* Fat Mike talked about T.O.'s "off the field" problems as being a problem.</P>


                            Yes he was irritating.* yes he was annoying.* Yes he was a "me" guy.* But T.O. didn't have a single "off the field" problem that I can remember.* I can't remember once his getting arrested, hitting a women, having drug problems, having a DUI...etc....</P>


                            No one in their right mind would suggest that he isn't a good enough football player to qualify.</P>


                            From what I can see he has always been a solid citizen.* A guy who never got into trouble.</P>


                            Isn't he the kind of guy the NFL should hold up as a good example off the field?</P>


                            Yes he's annoying.* But if that it the criteria for being exempted from the Hall, they need to re-examine thier standards.</P>


                            And as the President of the 'Annoying and Obnoxios Club of America', I would personally have a problem with it.</P>


                            T.O.:* Great player, annoying but seemingly good guy.</P>[/quote]Your right Owens has always been unjustly labeled as a bad guy. He has an ego almost as big as Lebron James thats about it

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                            • #15
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                              [quote user="gmen46"]Yeah, he'd probably be in the Hall on first ballot--if it weren't for Garcia, McNabb, Romo, whoever-was-the-QB-for Buffalo-when he was there, and for Palmer. Just ask Owens. They all hurt his career by just not throwing to him enough. Just think of what his stats could have been.[/quote]
                              Wha? They threw to him plenty. 3500+ yards and 38TDs in his three years under Romo. His Cowboys numbers were better than his Eagles numbers.
                              He had a down year (by his standards) in Buffalo, but still managed 829yds and 5TDs.
                              He had a good year in Cincy - 983yds and 9TDs.

                              Owens is easily worthy of a first ballot. He's one of the greatest receivers in NFL history.

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