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  • knicks are used to defending the trash celtics' offense with no point guard. pacers don't have elite guards but they have quick guys that can use the pick n roll to get in the paint. we're forced to switch or double and leave guys open for 3. they're making shots.

    our defense needs to be much better for us to win the series. we cannot rely on scoring big against the best defense in the league to win games. with that said if we got half the foul calls we deserved we would have scored over 100.

    so many dumb turnovers killed us, not securing rebounds, missing free throws. we did everything we could to lose.

    the positive thing is the knicks played nowhere near as good as they can, yet it was still a close game down the stretch.

    game 2 is an absolute must win.

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    • god you're an optimist...


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      • not sure where any statement i made in that post would make you say that. i pointed out how poorly we played and that it was the reason we lost. what is optimisitic about that? they have to play better or else they'll lose the series.

        anyways...



        hibbert going straight up lol

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        • If we play our offense the way were capable, like we were that 15game win streak and the way we were during the 18-3 run to start the yr, no one can beat us.. Also, playing that kinda offense , gets u into the mode of playing defense, as everyones involved and having fun..

          Our offense has been dreadful this entire postseason, and a team lead by Melo and JR needs to score, thats litteraly what there here for... Also, we got Kidd and Prig to feed the ball, so thers not much sense having all these PG's, JR Smith and Melo, if were gonna score in the 80's, early 90's...

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          • The refs weren't good, no doubt.. Gotta play better regardless...

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            • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
              If we play our offense the way were capable, like we were that 15game win streak and the way we were during the 18-3 run to start the yr, no one can beat us.. Also, playing that kinda offense , gets u into the mode of playing defense, as everyones involved and having fun..

              Our offense has been dreadful this entire postseason, and a team lead by Melo and JR needs to score, thats litteraly what there here for... Also, we got Kidd and Prig to feed the ball, so thers not much sense having all these PG's, JR Smith and Melo, if were gonna score in the 80's, early 90's...
              the knicks offense during that streak composed of copleland playing center and going off against unsuspecting teams. also JR was routinely scoring 30 points on 15 shots. none of that is gonna happen in the playoffs.

              kidd is done. yet woody still plays him hoping his 40 year old legs will somehow turn it around. shump should be on the court nearly every minute and pablo should get all of kidd's minutes.

              knicks defense has not been bad through these playoffs... this was the first really poor defensive/rebounding game so far.

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              • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                not sure where any statement i made in that post would make you say that. i pointed out how poorly we played and that it was the reason we lost. what is optimisitic about that? they have to play better or else they'll lose the series.

                anyways...



                hibbert going straight up lol
                Good no call.. Lol

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                • GUESS WHO WAS OUT CLUBBING LAST NIGHT? Cam Newton, JR Smith, CC Sabathia, CJ Watson, Andre Blatche and Joe Johnson in the building!The lineup is serious tonight NY!— The 40/40 Club (@The4040)
                  Mood: WOOF!

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                  • @TheRealJRSmith: First an for most I wasn't clubbing before the game so y'all can kill that. Don't try an find reasons when I miss shots! #HopOff
                    Mood: WOOF!

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                    • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                      the knicks offense during that streak composed of copleland playing center and going off against unsuspecting teams. also JR was routinely scoring 30 points on 15 shots. none of that is gonna happen in the playoffs.

                      kidd is done. yet woody still plays him hoping his 40 year old legs will somehow turn it around. shump should be on the court nearly every minute and pablo should get all of kidd's minutes.

                      knicks defense has not been bad through these playoffs... this was the first really poor defensive/rebounding game so far.
                      Like i said, during the streak, and to start the yr at 18-3, which had nothing to do with Copeland.. Its a big enough sample size to realize its how were capable of playing and not some 5game means nothing type stat.. We moved the ball, and we also pushed tempo, just like they did in the 4th qter today being down, but we were doing that every game from start to finish.. Guys were slashing, moving, driving and kicking out...etc Now, its a slow and sluggish offense, that even when we shoot 53pct(like most of 1st half), were still not scoring a ton of points and opening a big lead, because its taking so long to get those points, always very late in the shot clock, and keeps teams close despite shooting so well..

                      This team can beat anyone on any given day when they play uptempo on offense, and unselfish...

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                      • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                        the knicks offense during that streak composed of copleland playing center and going off against unsuspecting teams. also JR was routinely scoring 30 points on 15 shots. none of that is gonna happen in the playoffs.

                        kidd is done. yet woody still plays him hoping his 40 year old legs will somehow turn it around. shump should be on the court nearly every minute and pablo should get all of kidd's minutes.

                        knicks defense has not been bad through these playoffs... this was the first really poor defensive/rebounding game so far.
                        First month of the season, JR only avg'd 14pts per game, yet we scored 100plus 12times and 99 another game... Shoot, there were games we were scoring 104 and 108 and JR wasent even getting in the upper teens...

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                        • My biggest concern in this series and it's Chandler and here is why:

                          He is not aggressive. He just isn't. He looks good when he dunks..BRAVO.

                          This is a hustle team, and they are going to FIGHT for rebounds. The Celtics were one of the worst rebounding teams. This team is not the Celtics.
                          Melo is playing like crap right now, but he will fight for that offensive rebound, and he had what..10 rebounds in this game? If you pass the ball low to him, forget it..he's going to lose the ball, or let you take it. He is NOT going to fight for it.

                          This team is going to have to play physical. Plain and simple, offensively and defensively. There's no way around it.
                          Mood: WOOF!

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                          • great summary Rudyy and that was what some of us complained about ALL season...lack of physicality especially down low in the Paint and rebounding...

                            Red Eye is dead on about his observations regarding Joakim Noah, who IMO is a top 5, maybe top 3 Big Man in this League and seems to get no praise from the "experts."

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                            Watch this Bulls team play the Heat tonight, I guarentee that Thibs' mindset and personality is all over them; if anything I feel bad for D-Rose 'cause he is shifting into a "crybaby" status, and I think the kid is brilliant but...


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                            • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                              rebounding and defense did us in. complain about the offense all you want it's not why we lost.
                              Carmelo and JR shot 14-43 the rest of the team 21-38. Offense is a huge problem when 2 guys dont pass and miss shots. Carmelo took 28 shots and had 1 assist this is why he gets ripped on.

                              Where is Tyson Chandler? Why is Melo the leading rebounder on the team. Didnt the Knicks go out and get this guy to be a Defensive stopper. If your 7'0 and u play 30 minutes hoe do u have 3 rebounds its a fing joke. Maybe Melo would have some more legs if this overpaid loser could pull his 12 million dollar weight. This guy is being paid to lead this team with Melo. We are going to rip Amare for lack of rebounding at least Amare can score. What the hell is CHandler doing on the floor if its not to rebound. If the Knicks lose this series and even if they dont I would try to move him in a trade, I think he is tradeable someone will give us a useful piece back for him.The guy is so overrated



                              1 other thing Kidd needs to be nailed to the bench. The guy has zero confidence and he is feeding into JR and Melo holding the ball. Why are they going to pass the ball when it goes around the arc to find him wide open and he refuses to shoot. When he came on the court in the 2nd quarter is when the bad habits started getting worse. The Ball movement was good enough up until about 4:00 left in the 1st half.Right now Prigs and Shump need to eat up the rest of Kidds minutes. Right now Prigs and Felton are playing the best basketball on the team
                              Last edited by Redeyejedi; 05-06-2013, 06:58 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                                Carmelo and JR shot 14-43 the rest of the team 21-38. Offense is a huge problem when 2 guys dont pass and miss shots. Carmelo took 28 shots and had 1 assist this is why he gets ripped on.

                                Where is Tyson Chandler? Why is Melo the leading rebounder on the team. Didnt the Knicks go out and get this guy to be a Defensive stopper. If your 7'0 and u play 30 minutes hoe do u have 3 rebounds its a fing joke. Maybe Melo would have some more legs if this overpaid loser could pull his 12 million dollar weight. This guy is being paid to lead this team with Melo. We are going to rip Amare for lack of rebounding at least Amare can score. What the hell is CHandler doing on the floor if its not to rebound. If the Knicks lose this series and even if they dont I would try to move him in a trade, I think he is tradeable someone will give us a useful piece back for him.The guy is so overrated



                                1 other thing Kidd needs to be nailed to the bench. The guy has zero confidence and he is feeding into JR and Melo holding the ball. Why are they going to pass the ball when it goes around the arc to find him wide open and he refuses to shoot. When he came on the court in the 2nd quarter is when the bad habits started getting worse. The Ball movement was good enough up until about 4:00 left in the 1st half.Right now Prigs and Shump need to eat up the rest of Kidds minutes. Right now Prigs and Felton are playing the best basketball on the team
                                Kidd has been abysmal this postseason.. People act like we don't need Chandler, Kidd, or Prig to score, but we do need some production outta em.. I brought up a graphic how we scored 100plus pts 12times and 99once the first month of the season when JR Smith only avg'd 14pts a game, and that was becasue guys like Kidd and Co. were scoring from time to time... Were not getting production outta Novak anymore, so it's even more paramount, that we get something offensively outta Kidd, Chandler, and Prigioni... Kidd can't even make a layup right now, and he should just retire after this yr, he hasen't scored in like 5or6 straight games..


                                Obviously offense is a huge problem right now, were a scoring team and were not scoring.. sure, we scored in the 4th yesterday, but that was when the deficit was to big and yes, hopefully that will give the knicks a idea of how they must play for 4qters, but for anyone who thinks this offense isn't a huge issue, is sadly mistaken..

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