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  • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
    melo had a terrible game like his jumper was broken or something. lots of missed free throws. plus the usual scrubs on the other team playing above and beyond their norm. such an ugly game. the raptors have been better of late but it wasn't like they lit us up we just couldn't make shots. it was possibly the worst loss of the year.

    the novak-stat front court needs to stop like i already said. teams continue to destroy us when that lineup is in there.


    the bulls just lost to the celtics 69-71 lol
    Novak shot alittle better, but as i said before, hes getting grossley close to riding the pine, because his offense isn't making up for his ridiculous defense anymore ,and as one announcer said the other day, good teams now know not to leave him, and bad teams, that usually don't have the heart of desire to defend all game, will leave him open from time to time, but come playoff time, that won't be happening..

    He and Amare are almost foolishly annoying on defense..

    Amare on the other hand is starting to lose that momentum he had offensivley building as well.. Hes been back up to his usual tricks, of getting the ball slapped outta his hands when hes making his spin move or about to go up , and barrelling into guys for Offensive fouls..etc He missed what should of been the easiest of dunks tonight, and got his own offensive rebound and somehow missed again..lol It was pure comedy...

    I seen this coming, as they simply haven't been looking remotley close to the team they resemebled the first half of the season in awhile.. It had nothing to do with Doom and Gloom, just what the play on the court tells u, which isn't horrible, but far from special.. I finally thought we weren't tricked into believing we had something when we didn't, and low and behold, we were.. This is a avg middle of the pack team, that i really can't see making it to the Eastern Confrence finals with this roster.. Melo and STAT and Chandler just don't get it done enough on the defensive side of the ball, because they lack the heart adn desire to do it night in and night out.. Add in the fact the team as a whole takes stupid shots left and right, and ur gonna lose mad games...

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    • scary teams to watch after the Break: Washington, BK and Celts

      the Atlantic and the east is not set in stone...

      (Hope Melo can recover with respect to his arm injury)


      NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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      • we started the year off with kidd and brewer playing extremely well. brewer fell off and out of the rotation. kidd fell off but for some reason still gets starter minutes. kidd and JR were both shooting over 50% from 3 and now kidd can't make a shot. i still have faith if we can get one of our bigs back or sign one we'll be in better shape. we're literally losing games because of that stat-novak lineup which will hopefully be gone after the all star break. i thought shump looked good against the raps as far as hustling and grabbing boards but woodson plays old *** kidd the entire 4th quarter smh. you can downplay the importance of a guy like sheed but i think if he comes back healthy it will help a lot.

        we'll see if they make any moves as far as signing someone or making a minor trade. i think they should just to shake things up and put guys on notice.

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        • what's the chance of Novak & James White winning tonight..??

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          • Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
            what's the chance of Novak & James White winning tonight..??
            White coulden't even get a dunk to go in..lol Its kinda funny, how just like our knicks, the hype train was on the 2knicks with Novak and WHite, and in typical knicks fashion, they underachieved..

            All i heard all day was how great James White could dunk, and even his creativity was a joke.. I missed the 3pt shootout, but i know Novak did lousy, because i bet on him just to beat Ryan Anderson in RD1, and he coulden't even do that..lol Novak's laughing all the way to the bank though, as he got a sweat little deal for what, one good yr of shooting? Hes still shooting good , but obviously teams don't give him any space anymore, and hes about the most unathletic guy in the league, which has made him more of a liability to our team then anything, because his offense isn't making up for his grade school esque defense...

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            • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
              we started the year off with kidd and brewer playing extremely well. brewer fell off and out of the rotation. kidd fell off but for some reason still gets starter minutes. kidd and JR were both shooting over 50% from 3 and now kidd can't make a shot. i still have faith if we can get one of our bigs back or sign one we'll be in better shape. we're literally losing games because of that stat-novak lineup which will hopefully be gone after the all star break. i thought shump looked good against the raps as far as hustling and grabbing boards but woodson plays old *** kidd the entire 4th quarter smh. you can downplay the importance of a guy like sheed but i think if he comes back healthy it will help a lot.

              we'll see if they make any moves as far as signing someone or making a minor trade. i think they should just to shake things up and put guys on notice.
              Its not just our defense, were simply not shooting at a ridiculous pace with guys like Kidd and Brewer shooting better then they ever had.. It was just a flukey run by some of our guys, that isn't totally surprising its over.. Even JR Smith was consistently incredible early on in the season, now hes back to his inconsistent ways, with some nights wanting to kill em, and some nights wanting to hug em..lol I do think Rasheed can help, but hes old, and on defense, he can help some, but he'll fall right into the trap of lazy defense when hes on a team with Amare, Melo, Chandler and the rest of the cast that can't seem to be bothered with playing with the same intensity on defense for a full season..

              I said last yr, i wondered if a MELO lead team could play Defense for a full seaosn, and now i'm pretty confident they can't, and we'll get sporadic outings of good all around play and then games we lose to Raptors at home.. Shoot, we can't even play a full game most nights, with at least 1or 2 killer QTERS almost every game..



              And i disagree about Shumpert, hes been dreadful in my opinion after a hot start coming back.. Careless with the ball, missing shots...etc Redeye warned me about his shooting when he came out, becuase i liked em alot, but i thought he'd be fine, and at times he is, but hes very inconsistent, and he makes rather bewildering decisons way to often, in my opinion...

              I still have hopes for em, because hes still kinda coming back from injury, but my excitement for him is down a notch as of now, and i'm hoping he can bring that excitement level back up for me..
              Last edited by nycsportzfan; 02-16-2013, 11:54 PM.

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              • dunk contest is terrible.. fans should vote on who competes..

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                • all right.. this dunk contest is getting a little better

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                  • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                    Its not just our defense, were simply not shooting at a ridiculous pace with guys like Kidd and Brewer shooting better then they ever had.. It was just a flukey run by some of our guys, that isn't totally surprising its over.. Even JR Smith was consistently incredible early on in the season, now hes back to his inconsistent ways, with some nights wanting to kill em, and some nights wanting to hug em..lol I do think Rasheed can help, but hes old, and on defense, he can help some, but he'll fall right into the trap of lazy defense when hes on a team with Amare, Melo, Chandler and the rest of the cast that can't seem to be bothered with playing with the same intensity on defense for a full season..

                    I said last yr, i wondered if a MELO lead team could play Defense for a full seaosn, and now i'm pretty confident they can't, and we'll get sporadic outings of good all around play and then games we lose to Raptors at home.. Shoot, we can't even play a full game most nights, with at least 1or 2 killer QTERS almost every game..



                    And i disagree about Shumpert, hes been dreadful in my opinion after a hot start coming back.. Careless with the ball, missing shots...etc Redeye warned me about his shooting when he came out, becuase i liked em alot, but i thought he'd be fine, and at times he is, but hes very inconsistent, and he makes rather bewildering decisons way to often, in my opinion...

                    I still have hopes for em, because hes still kinda coming back from injury, but my excitement for him is down a notch as of now, and i'm hoping he can bring that excitement level back up for me..
                    you really hate melo lol he's the least of the concerns. he's the main reason the team is where it is now. guards blowing by felton or kidd and making layups right in tyson's face is not on melo. his so called defensive liabilities are far overblown. he's actually done a very good job considering he's had to bang with guys way bigger than him most of the year like garnett and griffin.

                    what is a "melo lead defense"? melo is the leader of the defense? i thought that was tyson's job lol

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                    • The biggest liability in defense is Chandler.
                      Mood: WOOF!

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                      • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                        you really hate melo lol he's the least of the concerns. he's the main reason the team is where it is now. guards blowing by felton or kidd and making layups right in tyson's face is not on melo. his so called defensive liabilities are far overblown. he's actually done a very good job considering he's had to bang with guys way bigger than him most of the year like garnett and griffin.

                        what is a "melo lead defense"? melo is the leader of the defense? i thought that was tyson's job lol
                        What is a Melo lead defense? Its easy, hes the team leader and the team is gonna follow his example.. its pretty much common sense.. There not gonna give 110pct every game on every possesion if hes not, the highest paid player on the team.. I woulden't either...lol

                        And No, i love MELO, but unlike u, i don't have to kiss his rear every post to show it.. He is a player who will get ur team to teh postseason most likely, and then the lack of overall hustle and defense will haunt u, becasue theres games ur simply not gonna shoot great, and thats when ur defense keeps u in it... Theres no one on this thread who raved more about melo then i did early in the season.. Hes still doing incredible, i just don't think his leadership and lead by example ways are championship quality.. Thats what i see anyways.. Tyson Chandler was brought in here to bring defense and hustle, and in less then a yr and a half with Melo, hes one of the laziest players i've seen to date..

                        Funny how much cr-ap u gave me about that when i was saying that very thing last yr, isn't it? Now everyone on these boards brings it up..lol

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                        • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                          The biggest liability in defense is Chandler.
                          I said that a ton last yr, and got sarcastic remarks from KnicksGiants about it, like i was crazy.. Now everyone on these boards sees it and brings it up..lol I coulden't believe he WON DPOY award.. His numbers were mad decieving ...

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                          • 2 words: Terrence Ross

                            TORONTO FTW!

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                            • honestly how often do any of them consistently contest shots? How often do you see a guy slow in reacting to a rotation? How often do you see as KnicksGiants put it, opposing G's blow past Kidd, Shump or JR?

                              Melo is the least of the problems, in fact if you ask me, he is doing too much and that's saying something.

                              It's really kind of depressing but this is why some of you will remember my cautious optimism in the beginning of the season.

                              Defensively this team has got to evolve...It's weird, some games you're like wow, thats what's up; other games you're looking for a brown paper bag to wear while you sit on the sofa...


                              NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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                              • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                                What is a Melo lead defense? Its easy, hes the team leader and the team is gonna follow his example.. its pretty much common sense.. There not gonna give 110pct every game on every possesion if hes not, the highest paid player on the team.. I woulden't either...lol

                                And No, i love MELO, but unlike u, i don't have to kiss his rear every post to show it.. He is a player who will get ur team to teh postseason most likely, and then the lack of overall hustle and defense will haunt u, becasue theres games ur simply not gonna shoot great, and thats when ur defense keeps u in it... Theres no one on this thread who raved more about melo then i did early in the season.. Hes still doing incredible, i just don't think his leadership and lead by example ways are championship quality.. Thats what i see anyways.. Tyson Chandler was brought in here to bring defense and hustle, and in less then a yr and a half with Melo, hes one of the laziest players i've seen to date..

                                Funny how much cr-ap u gave me about that when i was saying that very thing last yr, isn't it? Now everyone on these boards brings it up..lol
                                so melo turned chandler into a lazy player? lol

                                and what crap are you talking about? only thing i remember is constantly defending melo when you endlessly bashed him as he struggled playing injured and out of position under an incompetent coach.

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