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  • knicks' GMs have been poor in the past but i think grunwald has done a great job so far. especially when you consider the very limited assets he's had to work with and the team being over the cap since he got the job.

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    • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
      i don't think the knicks really overpaid for bargs though. maybe 1 2nd rounder too much.

      also if the knicks didn't overpay novak we wouldn't have been able to get bargs because the salaries wouldn't work. so in essence overpaying novak worked out in our favor.

      i'm gonna take a guess and assume you're one of those guys that thinks we overpaid in the melo trade too, which i also disagree with.
      overpaying Novak an extra year did not help.If the contracts ran out the same time this is a different trade.
      I see the Knicks in better shape keeping Copeland and 3 Draft Picks over trading for Bargs. Now we have 1 draft pick left until 2017. So now if a trade comes a long with expiring contracts next year we have nothing to get it done with. U dont make trades like this if it doesnt give your team a legitimate chance to win a championship. I dont see the Knicks as any better but they pissed away 3 draft picks to be the same team. Why not be the same team and keep the picks. The Knicks have shown over the years to have no patience it cost them Chris Paul. Had they just let Billups deal run out instead of picking up his option then amnestying him "Worst move in the history of Bad moves" this team would be completely different. Grunwalds move with Chandler killed any flexibility left on the roster.Had we kept the amnesty we could amnesty Amare get under the apron which would allow us to do sign and trades and have the full MLE. Using the amnesty on Billups I think was the worst of the moves made

      We overpaid Mozgov in the Melo trade not the biggest deal but he is a capable back up Center.

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      • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
        Nah, I don't really follow basketball anymore. But I find Knick fans pretty annoying. Very similar to Ranger fans - a sense of self entitlement without winning anything.
        Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
        Yeah a lot of us Knicks fans are like that,but we should be it's the Mecca of basketball.
        You mean when Clyde says that MSG is the "Worlds Most Famous Arena"? But as a casual NBA fan, I can't fathom cheering for a guy like Carmelo Anthony. The guy is such a wanker.
        http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
        http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
        http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

        Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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        • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
          overpaying Novak an extra year did not help.If the contracts ran out the same time this is a different trade.
          I see the Knicks in better shape keeping Copeland and 3 Draft Picks over trading for Bargs. Now we have 1 draft pick left until 2017. So now if a trade comes a long with expiring contracts next year we have nothing to get it done with. U dont make trades like this if it doesnt give your team a legitimate chance to win a championship. I dont see the Knicks as any better but they pissed away 3 draft picks to be the same team. Why not be the same team and keep the picks. The Knicks have shown over the years to have no patience it cost them Chris Paul. Had they just let Billups deal run out instead of picking up his option then amnestying him "Worst move in the history of Bad moves" this team would be completely different. Grunwalds move with Chandler killed any flexibility left on the roster.Had we kept the amnesty we could amnesty Amare get under the apron which would allow us to do sign and trades and have the full MLE. Using the amnesty on Billups I think was the worst of the moves made

          We overpaid Mozgov in the Melo trade not the biggest deal but he is a capable back up Center.
          knicks gave up on cp3 because we had nothing to get him after trading for melo. his agency (that also represents melo) let us know it wasn't gonna happen, so we moved on. in hindsight the lockout screwed us over because it gave the nuggets leverage in the trade. otherwise we could have got him for less or simply waited and got him in free agency.

          i do agree that amnestying billups was dumb though.

          i disagree that the knicks are the same team. i think they've improved by adding bargs (how much is yet to be seen).

          i read that baron davis is working on a comeback. him and pablo off the bench would be solid.
          Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
          You mean when Clyde says that MSG is the "Worlds Most Famous Arena"? But as a casual NBA fan, I can't fathom cheering for a guy like Carmelo Anthony. The guy is such a wanker.
          ny being the mecca of basketball isn't related to MSG. it's about the fact that it's playgrounds have produced so many great players throughout the years.

          and melo is a beast and easy to root for. nobody is perfect but the dude is arguably the most talented scorer in the league and a future hall of famer.
          Last edited by kNicksGiants; 07-08-2013, 07:03 PM.

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          • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
            knicks gave up on cp3 because we had nothing to get him after trading for melo. his agency (that also represents melo) let us know it wasn't gonna happen, so we moved on. in hindsight the lockout screwed us over because it gave the nuggets leverage in the trade. otherwise we could have got him for less or simply waited and got him in free agency.

            i do agree that amnestying billups was dumb though.

            i disagree that the knicks are the same team. i think they've improved by adding bargs (how much is yet to be seen).

            i read that baron davis is working on a comeback. him and pablo off the bench would be solid.


            ny being the mecca of basketball isn't related to MSG. it's about the fact that it's playgrounds have produced so many great players throughout the years.

            and melo is a beast and easy to root for. nobody is perfect but the dude is arguably the most talented scorer in the league and a future hall of famer.
            Davis doesnt cost the Knicks anything so I dont mind him trying to play but I dont see him playing for the Knicks this season. The Knicks are still in need of a Back up PG. 1 that can stay in front of quicker players.

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            • We could of signed Paul as a FA wouldnt need to trade for him.

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              • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                knicks gave up on cp3 because we had nothing to get him after trading for melo. his agency (that also represents melo) let us know it wasn't gonna happen, so we moved on. in hindsight the lockout screwed us over because it gave the nuggets leverage in the trade. otherwise we could have got him for less or simply waited and got him in free agency.

                i do agree that amnestying billups was dumb though.

                i disagree that the knicks are the same team. i think they've improved by adding bargs (how much is yet to be seen).

                i read that baron davis is working on a comeback. him and pablo off the bench would be solid.


                ny being the mecca of basketball isn't related to MSG. it's about the fact that it's playgrounds have produced so many great players throughout the years.

                and melo is a beast and easy to root for. nobody is perfect but the dude is arguably the most talented scorer in the league and a future hall of famer.
                NY being the mecca of basketball has to do with both MSG and the playgrounds, as well as NYC High school and college hoops.

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                • stephen a must be trolling us but he said lebron likes the idea of playing with melo in NY.

                  lol

                  if both melo and lebron opt in for their final year next year, it's a realistic possibility.

                  we have to hope wade breaks down more and more and the heat don't win this upcoming season.

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                  • I honestly don't know what the issue is with fans and what the knicks have done. Sometimes things dont work out, but to act like any fans or basketball experts weren't extremely optomistic about the knicks adding both Melo and Stat is utterly ridiculous. Its hindsight at its worst. Things don't work out sometimes, but at least the teams competitive now and with a possibly tweak here or tweak there can probably be even more competitive, which hopefully adding Bargniani and Hardaway Jr will do. Also, if it dosen't work, knicks will get a ton of money off the books at around the same time, so they can court a diffrent group of FA's if they have to. Shump, Hardaway Jr, Prig, Melo, Stat, Bargs, Chandler, Felton, and JR Smith is a pretty good nucleus of players.

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                    • ron artest is likely to be amnestied by the lakers and he wants to play for the knicks. the problem is someone under the cap might claim him. he has said he would retire if a bad team claims him so that may scare teams off.

                      adding artest for the vet min would be excellent.

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                      • Originally posted by kNicksGiants View Post
                        ron artest is likely to be amnestied by the lakers and he wants to play for the knicks. the problem is someone under the cap might claim him. he has said he would retire if a bad team claims him so that may scare teams off.adding artest for the vet min would be excellent.
                        dont see that happening
                        Football has been very, very good to us.
                        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                        4-New York Giants!!!
                        5-NE
                        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                        • don't see what happening? a team not claiming him? if he clears waivers he's a knick guaranteed.

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                          • Metta World Peace anyone?
                            Mood: WOOF!

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                            • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                              Metta World Peace anyone?
                              God please no, he's a quack and isn't even that great of a defender anymore. Besides, between Melo, Bargs and JR where is he finding minutes at the 3?

                              Knicks need to get either Brand or KMart, a young, quick, defensive PG, and a legit back-up Center (maybe dalember of return of Mozgov?).

                              That pretty much fills the roster.

                              In the end, the only chance the Knicks have of being a contending team is if somehow Stat returns to being a great player.
                              All Hail The New York Giants!!

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                              • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                                Metta World Peace anyone?
                                no, but I'll take Ron Artest

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