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  • Originally posted by TrueBlue@NYC View Post
    Yep, a 3rd PG and a back-up center and that pretty much settles the roster. The only question after that is if the team is good enough to contend. It'll come down to a few things:

    1. Consistent team defense: With their scoring they don't have to be the best defensive team, but if they can be a top 10 defensive team then that'll propel them.

    2. Amare making a difference: Don't care what anyone says, Amare was supposed to be one of our "big two", and they need him to be a very good player again in order to contend. Can't win it all with Melo as the only elite player on the team.

    3. Bargnani blending in well offensively and not being a defensive liability: You just don't know how he'll fit until they get on the court. Will be complement Melo like Copeland did but in an upgraded way? They need that to be a yes.

    4. Chandler returns to DPOY form: He's the defensive foundation, if he crumbles again so does the house of cards.

    5. Felton & Prigioni combine for 12 AST/game: Lots of scorers and these guys need to put them in position to get easy buckets.

    6. Shumpert takes the next step: Need another star on the team, and he's the only candidate to step forward.

    7. JR Smith builds for last season: Year 1 he showed promise, Year 2 he took a big step forward, year 3 he needs to put it all together for the season and playoffs.
    I actually like Tyler as a back up big.. Dude got skills, needs to be coached up some

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    • Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
      I actually like Tyler as a back up big.. Dude got skills, needs to be coached up some
      Yeah, he has good physical tools, but I don't think he's ready for an NBA season, he looks like he needs a stint in the D-league..
      All Hail The New York Giants!!

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      • I think he doesn't.

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        • Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
          solid offseason.. this team is deep, maybe add another PG
          Toure Murry?

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          • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
            Toure Murry?
            or Bobby Brown (not the guy from New Edition)

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            • Yo Knicks fans! We open the season against the Bucks.

              Full schedule comes out tomorrow I believe.
              Mood: WOOF!

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              • i hope the knicks are able to get beno udrih as the 3rd pg. every time i remember seeing him play his mid range jumper (off the dribble) is automatic.

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                • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                  Yo Knicks fans! We open the season against the Bucks.Full schedule comes out tomorrow I believe.
                  wow Bucks huh. That's a 1-0 Start!!!
                  Football has been very, very good to us.
                  After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                  But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                  # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                  1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                  2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                  3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                  4-New York Giants!!!
                  5-NE
                  Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                  ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                  • I was just on CBS sports and was looking through their offseason reports, when I stumbled across their report from LAST offseason (2012). Much of which was geared towards the Knicks losing Jeremy Lin in FA due to the "poison pill" that Houston put in.

                    Sooo, since it's pretty much gonna be quiet from now until the start of the season and I thought it would be cool to fill the time by looking back on the Jeremy Lin free agency one year later.

                    Some knicks fans thought we were giving away a unique talent that was going to be a mega-star, some thought we was a flash in the pan player who was quickly figured out by the league and was very limited (i.e. can't create going left), some thought we would be somewhere in between.

                    So, what do you guys think? One year later, were the knicks right in letting Lin go? Do you think he could still grow further as a player?
                    All Hail The New York Giants!!

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                    • Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                      wow Bucks huh. That's a 1-0 Start!!!
                      Haha yup!
                      Mood: WOOF!

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                      • Originally posted by TrueBlue@NYC View Post
                        I was just on CBS sports and was looking through their offseason reports, when I stumbled across their report from LAST offseason (2012). Much of which was geared towards the Knicks losing Jeremy Lin in FA due to the "poison pill" that Houston put in.

                        Sooo, since it's pretty much gonna be quiet from now until the start of the season and I thought it would be cool to fill the time by looking back on the Jeremy Lin free agency one year later.

                        Some knicks fans thought we were giving away a unique talent that was going to be a mega-star, some thought we was a flash in the pan player who was quickly figured out by the league and was very limited (i.e. can't create going left), some thought we would be somewhere in between.

                        So, what do you guys think? One year later, were the knicks right in letting Lin go? Do you think he could still grow further as a player?
                        Honestly, I prefer Felton.

                        I admire what Lin has done and he's a good player with great heart, but he has ways to go. Do I still think that we can upgrade the PG position even with Felton? Absolutely, no question.
                        Mood: WOOF!

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                        • Originally posted by TrueBlue@NYC View Post
                          I was just on CBS sports and was looking through their offseason reports, when I stumbled across their report from LAST offseason (2012). Much of which was geared towards the Knicks losing Jeremy Lin in FA due to the "poison pill" that Houston put in.

                          Sooo, since it's pretty much gonna be quiet from now until the start of the season and I thought it would be cool to fill the time by looking back on the Jeremy Lin free agency one year later.

                          Some knicks fans thought we were giving away a unique talent that was going to be a mega-star, some thought we was a flash in the pan player who was quickly figured out by the league and was very limited (i.e. can't create going left), some thought we would be somewhere in between.

                          So, what do you guys think? One year later, were the knicks right in letting Lin go? Do you think he could still grow further as a player?
                          Lin is in a weird spot. He's still raw with a upside. His biggest problem is that he can't shoot - making him a very inefficient scorer. He's not good enough to be the primary scorer for a team, and he's not good enough a shooter to sit on the outside and wait for passes to come his way (which is what the rockets are using him as). He's a ball dominant guard. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective.

                          With Harden having the ball 60% of the time with the Rockets, Lin is pretty much used as a spot up and shoot guard. The Rockets are wasting their money. The Knicks would have been better off with Lin than Felton though.

                          Lin is still young and has a lot of room to improve. His 3 point shooting was abysmal last season, but second half and on he was shooting close to 40%. The way he plays looks ugly, but he does have a really quick first step. Personally, I think he might be better off as a 6th man.
                          http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
                          http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
                          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

                          Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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                          • Full schedule here: http://knicksnow.com/posts/3793/knic...dule-announced
                            Mood: WOOF!

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                            • glad we signed tyler. i think he's got a lot of potential.

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                              • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                                Lin is in a weird spot. He's still raw with a upside. His biggest problem is that he can't shoot - making him a very inefficient scorer. He's not good enough to be the primary scorer for a team, and he's not good enough a shooter to sit on the outside and wait for passes to come his way (which is what the rockets are using him as). He's a ball dominant guard. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective.

                                With Harden having the ball 60% of the time with the Rockets, Lin is pretty much used as a spot up and shoot guard. The Rockets are wasting their money. The Knicks would have been better off with Lin than Felton though.

                                Lin is still young and has a lot of room to improve. His 3 point shooting was abysmal last season, but second half and on he was shooting close to 40%. The way he plays looks ugly, but he does have a really quick first step. Personally, I think he might be better off as a 6th man.
                                I'm not sure the knicks would have been better off with Lin than Felton. Lin seems like a better passer, but he's still unable to drive left and he's still a poor shooter. Defensively, both are pretty bad, though Lin gets a couple of steals a game.

                                One big thing Felton has over Lin is health. Lin was in and out of the line-up in HOU all season because his body just couldn't hold up. Felton, throughout his career, has shown to be able to stay on the court.

                                One thing though is that Felton was relied on too much to be a scorer, and particularly in big games where teams dared him to drop 20, he generally failed at that. He needs to be the 4th or 5th scoring option on the team, not the 3rd. Presumably, he'll be that now behind Melo, Stat, JR and Bargs.
                                All Hail The New York Giants!!

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