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    Okay, show your age and let's talk about our very own who's left an indelible mark on the NFL.

    Do you think he'll get in on Sunday, and what are your memories of Bill?
    Last edited by Roosevelt; 01-29-2013, 06:00 PM.
    Torque it till it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn.

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    Not sure if he'll get in. I loved him when he was here. He didn't take crap from anyone. But I lost some love for him after he left. He really pimped himself out. And that is what may be hurting his HOF chances somewhat.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
      Okay, show your age and let's talk about our very own who's left an edible mark on the NFL. Do you think he'll get in on Sunday, and what are your memories of Bill?
      Let it go Rooster, let it go man. You have to stop living in the past and move on bud.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
        Let it go Rooster, let it go man. You have to stop living in the past and move on bud.
        Are you brain dead? Bill Parcells is Giants football and may be enshrined into the HOF this weekend.

        His descendants are scattered throughout the league including our very own HC.

        WTF.
        Torque it till it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
          Are you brain dead? Bill Parcells is Giants football and may be enshrined into the HOF this weekend.

          His descendants are scattered throughout the league including our very own HC.

          WTF.


          C'mon man, we know you're just looking for material you can use to fap later tonight.

          But i'll humor you, he never won without belicheat. He let LT get away with murder, did an ok job with the pats and jets but was mediocre with the cow pokes. He is borderline because of the 2 SB.

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          • #6
            I thought that Bill did a good job handling one of the best guys to play the game. Players wanted to play hard for him. thats real art for a head coach. Truth be told, if Al Davis doesn't change Bill's thinking about being HC for another year, after the horrible 1983 season, maybe history would have been totally different. I liked his no BS attitude. He started believing his press clippings as time went on and I think that hurt his capablilties in the game. Overall, I hope he gets in, he deserves it. He took the Jints out of the horrible 70's and ushered them into the elite 80's!

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            • #7
              he'll def. get in just not this yr. altho it'd make the most sense bc i believe strahan will be first ballot and make it his first eligible opportunity...i remember reading an article on this subject and the author made a good point, its not a matter of "if" its a matter of "when" with BP...

              and he took a franchise that hadnt had success in some time really, and turned it around. I doubt we are at the point we are as a franchise if it werent for BP. he has effects on teams even now with the coaches he's tutored and gone onto success...BB, TC to name two and boy have they been successful...ultimately, he's turned around or set the team up to be turned around for several franchises that the success has continued on...NYG and NE to name two altho the NYJ made it to a AFC CG after he was there, and the Cowboys have enjoyed whatever marginal success they have thanx to a lot of the personnel move BP made.

              He's also responsible in large part for the OLB pass rushing specialists we see today. He innovated the game and made quantum leaps in how defenses aligned and attacked. He also helped pave the way for the necessity of having an athletic OT to combat the OLB pressures...football isnt where it is today w/o BP and for me, that shoulda made him a first ballot...but the voters are a lot of the people BP pissed off with his brash no nonsense attitudes he took with reporters (who makeup the voters)...so he'll get in hopefully with Strahan bc it'd be a great thing for the NYG

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              • #8
                Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                He's also responsible in large part for the OLB pass rushing specialists we see today. He innovated the game and made quantum leaps in how defenses aligned and attacked. He also helped pave the way for the necessity of having an athletic OT to combat the OLB pressures...football isnt where it is today w/o BP and for me, that shoulda made him a first ballot...but the voters are a lot of the people BP pissed off with his brash no nonsense attitudes he took with reporters (who makeup the voters)...so he'll get in hopefully with Strahan bc it'd be a great thing for the NYG
                I thought a lot of that was Belicheck?

                I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  I have mixed feelings on Parcells.
                  I think he will get in and I do appreciate what he accomplished and how he was as the Giants HC
                  But I'm not happy with how he screwed the fans in the end and belittled himself and tarnished his legacy with his actions after he left.

                  Strahan will definitely get in.
                  He's kissed more than enough ***

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                  • #10
                    No offense Rosey, but I believe you meant "indelible". Although he is the Big Tuna.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                      Okay, show your age and let's talk about our very own who's left an edible mark on the NFL.

                      Do you think he'll get in on Sunday, and what are your memories of Bill?
                      He was a great HC with a substantial coaching tree beneath him. His orientation was defense and on offense he'e take only the minimum risk necessary to win. If we were playing a weak team, the game would be a snoozer with us running a vanilla offense with mostly running plays. If we were playing a top oponent, all bets were off. He'd break out wrinkles not seen before on offense and special teams. He had great leadership qualities. One of my favorite memories was him and Simms jawing at each other on the sideline, both looking straight ahead, trying to fake the cameras into believing they weren't arguing on the sidelines.

                      That said, I grew to not like the guy. It may sound strange after the praise I heaped on him. He was a mercenary for the front office to deal with. He never let his contract settle in. Worse, he did it all publicly through the media. It was like dealing with a current day WR or CB diva. He constantly talked about retiring and or leaving the Giants. He let Bellicheat get away to strengthen his negotiating position with us, then left us holding the bag with Ray Handley. I would never use the word class with Parcells as I obviously would with Coughlin. I wouldn't hire him (even in his prime) as my coach knowing what I know about his restless heart. I'm not a big fan of drama in the locker room especially coming from a coach.

                      Still his body of work is large and should land him in the HOF soon. I'm guessing it happens this year.
                      Last edited by jomo; 01-29-2013, 12:24 PM.
                      No one remembers who came in second.

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                      • #12
                        I sure hope he gets in

                        my memories of Bill are screaming at Simms, Belichick, Erhardt, and Crennel on the sidelines....

                        ....walking around in short shorts and a parachute shirt with high socks at training camp chain smoking cigarettes

                        ....the best at dealing with the media

                        .....and one of the best football minds in the history of the game



                        "....for the rest of your lives men....no one can say you couldn't do it....cus ya did it ....."

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                        • #13
                          Getting soaked in Gatorade. A button pusher extrodinair. Great with the media.
                          I think he gets in. He has a legacy and a shroud of greatness that followed him. But I also think a coach shouldn't take an HOF candidate spot from a player for the year. It should be a separate group.
                          "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                          You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                            Okay, show your age and let's talk about our very own who's left an edible mark on the NFL.

                            Do you think he'll get in on Sunday, and what are your memories of Bill?
                            An edible mark? Is that a crack about his weight??? lol

                            Great coach who brought us from obscurity to relevance. Just wish he stayed longer . . ..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jomo View Post
                              He was a great HC with a substantial coaching tree beneath him. His orientation was defense and on offense he'e take only the minimum risk necessary to win. If we were playing a weak team, the game would be a snoozer with us running a vanilla offense with mostly running plays. If we were playing a top oponent, all bets were off. He'd break out wrinkles not seen before on offense and special teams. He had great leadership qualities. One of my favorite memories was him and Simms jawing at each other on the sideline, both looking straight ahead, trying to fake the cameras into believing they weren't arguing on the sidelines.

                              That said, I grew to not like the guy. It may sound strange after the praise I heaped on him. He was a mercenary for the front office to deal with. He never let his contract settle in. Worse, he did it all publicly through the media. It was like dealing with a current day WR or CB diva. He constantly talked about retiring and or leaving the Giants. He let Bellicheat get away to strengthen his negotiating position with us, then left us holding the bag with Ray Handley. I would never use the word class with Parcells as I obviously would with Coughlin. I wouldn't hire him (even in his prime) as my coach knowing what I know about his restless heart. I'm not a big fan of drama in the locker room especially coming from a coach.

                              Still his body of work is large and should land him in the HOF soon. I'm guessing it happens this year.
                              To me, the only difference between Parcells and TC is the Parcells drama . . . .

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