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  • #61
    Civility. Lets find some, shall we?

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    The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Die-Hard View Post
      Civility. Lets find some, shall we?

      Thanks
      I'm pretty sure I have mantained a level of civilty in this conversation,,,,compared to my usual lack thereof.
      Last edited by FBomb; 03-24-2013, 09:52 AM.
      I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
        It yours as well as many others attitude that turns to immediate hatred towards players that helped us win two rings, as soon as they leave here, that is just so immature. He's just another player that the Giants haven't even made an offer to, who is going to sign somewhere else and he is talking up that team. Plus, seeing as he lives in Atlanta and the fact that it would be their first SB, his comments are kind of understandable.
        You're right I'm sure Detroit fans feel the same way about Titus Young and how he tried to sabotage their team. You are quick to forget all of the stunts Osi has pulled since he has been here. Do you feel the same way about Shockey as you do Osi? I highly doubt it.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ShakeandBake View Post
          You're right I'm sure Detroit fans feel the same way about Titus Young and how he tried to sabotage their team. You are quick to forget all of the stunts Osi has pulled since he has been here. Do you feel the same way about Shockey as you do Osi? I highly doubt it.
          I was a HUGE Shockey fan. I even had a giant cardboard cut out of him in the man cave. That ended up in a bonfire!! I am a GIANTS fan first.
          I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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          • #65
            If a team can cut a player before a contract is up, why is it so wrong for a player to want more money before a contact is up? This is how the NFL works. Don't take it personal. Osi never had one teammate or the head coach say a bad word about him. Comparing him to Shockey is an insult. Shockey caused problems in the huddle and for the whole team.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
              If a team can cut a player before a contract is up, why is it so wrong for a player to want more money before a contact is up? This is how the NFL works. Don't take it personal. Osi never had one teammate or the head coach say a bad word about him. Comparing him to Shockey is an insult. Shockey caused problems in the huddle and for the whole team.
              You clearly just don't get it. Where did I, or anyone else for that matter complain about the man trying to get paid? We care that he is a malcontent and tried to screw the team over by going in for unnecessary knee surgery two years ago, which was more of an effort to screw the organization and the team than Shockey ever put forth.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                If a team can cut a player before a contract is up, why is it so wrong for a player to want more money before a contact is up? This is how the NFL works. Don't take it personal. Osi never had one teammate or the head coach say a bad word about him. Comparing him to Shockey is an insult. Shockey caused problems in the huddle and for the whole team.
                Because it's stated in the contract that way. It's a general misconception that owners don't honor contracts because they can cut a player. Osi was wrong about his contract because he WILLINGLY signed it with that language in it and was paid a boat load of money UP FRONT, making him the highest paid player at his position at that time. He has the right to WANT to get paid more,,,,but I have the right to not like the way he went about it. He threatened to hold out...publicly called Reese a liar....had a surprise surgery just before the season started because he didn't get his way and missed several games. Not to mention his decreased level of play WHILE demanding more money.

                The Shockey comparison is TOTALLY valid as it is merely an example of how I am a Giants fan before I am a player fan. They both behaved in a manor I don't like. Just because it wasn't the SAME behavior doesn't mean the point isn't made.

                What I take personally in this conversation is that you think your the more mature poster because you choose to ignore Osi's behavior and that it isn't a discussion worth having. You don't get to decide that for anyone else. If it isn't worth having to you....stay out of it.
                Last edited by FBomb; 03-24-2013, 11:18 AM.
                I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                  I was a HUGE Shockey fan. I even had a giant cardboard cut out of him in the man cave. That ended up in a bonfire!! I am a GIANTS fan first.
                  Same here, just goes to show ya that sometimes the potential is just not worth it with these types(wish we would've kept Shiancoe!)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ShakeandBake View Post
                    Same here, just goes to show ya that sometimes the potential is just not worth it with these types(wish we would've kept Shiancoe!)
                    Yeah.....what a huge blunder that was. Thank goodness the Boss man filled the role adequately.
                    I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                    • #70
                      Shiancoe's a free agent by the way.


                      just saying :P


                      NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
                        Shiancoe's a free agent by the way.


                        just saying :P
                        REESE YOU STOOPID IMGRATE!!!!! GET IT DONE!!

                        ha...haven't kept up...what's the deal with him? Is he healthy?
                        I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by B&RWarrior View Post
                          There is no story here. An older player near the end of his career talking up a prospective new team. He said nothing was better than winning in NY and then added that winning with his prospective new employer could be better. Sounds like a great job interview answer. He's trying to say the right things to get a job. He never brought up his old contract or issues with the Giants, he kept it positive and forward looking as you should. I wish him the best of luck and hope he can make as much money as possible wherever he goes. Osi was a core player on the last 2 SB winning teams. Thanks Osi!

                          Plenty of contracts get signed in business that in hindsight people regret. I don't know why people think pro athletes should be above these kind of regrets. I always thought he played hard when he was out there regardless of his contract issues. If you play hard I could care less if you whine, cry, or all the other crap.

                          IMO, it is hypocritical to put LT up on a pedestal and then demonize Osi for his comparably insignificant off the field issues.
                          I'll never praise LT for his off the field problems, but you never got less that 100% from him on any snap in his career... and he never once criticized the organization.
                          Meanwhile, I will aso have no negative remarks about Osi's off the field behavior, either.. even though he bad mouthed Reese for years about his contract. And, THEN, Osi played the injury/surgery card at a horrible time, was less than a good team mate in preseason, and gave less than 100% on the field.
                          As far as a player, team mate, effort, and pride in the Giants go, I'll give L.T. a 10 and I'll give Osi a 5, and thanks for the good years before he bacame a mouth.
                          Finally, Osi is delusional. He gets no better than a C for his play the last two years, and he was an embarrassing wuss on running plays.
                          You can't even begin to compare Osi to LT when it comes to effort for the Giants.
                          If we can't put LT on a pedestal, then we need to dig a hole for Osi to stand in when those 2 Giants stand next to each other.
                          Last edited by zimonami; 03-24-2013, 04:59 PM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                            I'm pretty sure I have mantained a level of civilty in this conversation,,,,compared to my usual lack thereof.
                            Seriously? You have been an altar boy on here today... respect and decorum at all times. Restraint is a virtue.
                            And, btw, I am aso reading these boards, watching NCAA hoops, and enjoying my wine and weed, too.
                            Cheers, FB... Enjoy the day.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by zimonami View Post
                              Seriously? You have been an altar boy on here today... respect and decorum at all times. Restraint is a virtue.
                              And, btw, I am aso reading these boards, watching NCAA hoops, and enjoying my wine and weed, too.
                              Cheers, FB... Enjoy the day.
                              I got to have sex with the wife too!!
                              I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                                I got to have sex with the wife too!!
                                hahahahaha... sounds like a completely excellent Sunday afternoon.

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