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  • #16
    Originally posted by ebick View Post
    They kind of tried that......the problem is that the NFL represents the best in the world. You can't simply create an entire new league with the quality of players that exist in the NFL. I'm not saying I am for it. I can't imagine a London based team playing teams on the west coast.....the travel time would be rediculous and create a really unfair advantage.
    That is why we need a Euro division that plays 12 out of 16 games over there and a couple on this side of the pond until they can play all of their games over there. The payoff is that they get a slot in the playoffs and ultimately 2 slots. The interest in Europ ewill be enormous and it won't take 5 years to have very competitive teams over there since they will be full participants in our draft and the average career of players is lass than 5 years.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jomo View Post
      What I detest is taking teams on crazy trips that diminish their skills JUST TO SATISFY an insatiable interest in US football.
      It's more about the owners' insatiable interest in increased revenue than anything else. The NFL is still very much a niche product outside the US.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
        It's more about the owners' insatiable interest in increased revenue than anything else. The NFL is still very much a niche product outside the US.
        Which is why I say that all these moves by Goodell and the owners are not friendly to the teams fans, they are designed to line the pockets of owners at the expense of their own fans enjoyment and even their teams' ultimate success. If the Giants fly to London, play on a rotten field while being jet lagged and miss the playoffs by tie breakers because of a loss in Europe, why am I supposed to think that's cool??
        No one remembers who came in second.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jorge Boada View Post
          You're right with those arguments.
          I need to be more accurate. Kidnapping and drug cartel problems are exclusively from the north and coasts part of the country, thank God Mexico City is free of those problems, we have others.
          But I'm pretty sure is not about security, we had many NFL games before 2005 and there is not artist or music band who has stopped coming to Mexico for that reason (U2,Paul McCartney,Madonna etc.), we had Panamerican Games, Obama came two weeks ago, etc...
          Anyway, we will still loving the NFL and purchasing Sunday Ticket and travelling to USA to attend the games...
          By the way, DO YOU KNOW THAT IN MEXICO YOU CAN WATCH THE GAMES IN TEATHRES? THAT'S AWESOME!...
          There is a difference between "having games" and having a Franchise, its employees and a full season. The security demands of 1 game or 1 event are nowhere near as demanding as it would be for a full team, all day and all night for an entire football season for not just the players but everyone around an organization.

          You can argue that the security problems are largely in the north. It is worse in the north for sure, but it is a countrywide problem:

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3360915.html



          That said, I do think Mexico City is a better candidate for an NFL team than any European city as far as fanbase and revenue. But, security is most certainly a huge issue since NFL player contracts are on public record.

          Lastly, and I am too lazy to look it up, but I know that Jerry Jones has been strongly against any Mexican teams. As you can imagine that would bite into his revenue quite severely. In truth, it has been some time since the Cowboys have been "America's Team." A huge chunk of their revenue comes from south of the border.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by jomo View Post
            Which is why I say that all these moves by Goodell and the owners are not friendly to the teams fans, they are designed to line the pockets of owners at the expense of their own fans enjoyment and even their teams' ultimate success. If the Giants fly to London, play on a rotten field while being jet lagged and miss the playoffs by tie breakers because of a loss in Europe, why am I supposed to think that's cool??
            Yep, I agree. I can understand wanting to grow the league's profile, but they're doing so in a way that runs the very real risk of turning off the sport's core - American - audience. Not good.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by jomo View Post
              Which is why I say that all these moves by Goodell and the owners are not friendly to the teams fans, they are designed to line the pockets of owners at the expense of their own fans enjoyment and even their teams' ultimate success. If the Giants fly to London, play on a rotten field while being jet lagged and miss the playoffs by tie breakers because of a loss in Europe, why am I supposed to think that's cool??
              Your last sentence is the reason I hate the whole concept. Not to mention with expanded draft pool that would be required to support the extra teams, a watered down draft pool will become even weaker. Not good for the product at all. It's like a successful retail chain that continues expanding it's number of outlets until it becomes unsustainable and it goes bankrupt.It happens to chains in every industry that succumbs to that. Yet they never learn. The potential for more, more, and ever more, destroy corp. CEOs and owners brain cells.

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              • #22
                i think if fans had a way to voice their opinion on this it would be a resounding no, but I get the feeling that Goodell isn't interested in the opinion of the people who helped build this league with their support and make it as popular as it is.

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                • #23
                  This is ridiculous! this would ruin football as we know it.

                  Take a look at Soccer for example. Yes! soccer is played all over the world BUT everyone has their own leagues. Not ONE team from X,Y,Z country plays in a different country. Let them make their own leagues. This other team would have such a disadvantage. PLUS it's not guaranteed that the locals will be attracted and root for that particular team.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by giantscolombia View Post
                    This is ridiculous! this would ruin football as we know it.

                    Take a look at Soccer for example. Yes! soccer is played all over the world BUT everyone has their own leagues. Not ONE team from X,Y,Z country plays in a different country. Let them make their own leagues. This other team would have such a disadvantage. PLUS it's not guaranteed that the locals will be attracted and root for that particular team.
                    There are actually football tournaments in which teams from all over the world compete in - the Champions League is one.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jorge Boada View Post
                      I know may be you don't care of international base of NFL fans, but I'm pissed of Roger Goodell, he wants a franchise in London, games every week and a Super Bowl, c'mon british people don't care about football.

                      In Mexico City WE ARE 20 MILLION FANS, we have broke many attendance records in NFL games played here, we purchase NFL Sunday Ticket every year, gear, memorabilia, EVERY YEAR 500,000 MEXICANS TRAVEL TO U.S TO ATTEND THE GAMES and Goodell is still ignoring us. He's a racist!...
                      Neither, we want football teams in NEITHER areas. It's a stupid thought.

                      I rather have Mexico City because it might be quicker to get to.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Jorge Boada View Post
                        I know may be you don't care of international base of NFL fans, but I'm pissed of Roger Goodell, he wants a franchise in London, games every week and a Super Bowl, c'mon british people don't care about football.

                        In Mexico City WE ARE 20 MILLION FANS, we have broke many attendance records in NFL games played here, we purchase NFL Sunday Ticket every year, gear, memorabilia, EVERY YEAR 500,000 MEXICANS TRAVEL TO U.S TO ATTEND THE GAMES and Goodell is still ignoring us. He's a racist!...
                        I don't know about Goodell being racist but I do think he is an idiot...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by EJ Blue View Post
                          The Buffalo Bills are the perfect candidate to move to Canada.
                          what did we ever do to you to deserve the Bills?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Jorge Boada View Post
                            I know may be you don't care of international base of NFL fans, but I'm pissed of Roger Goodell, he wants a franchise in London, games every week and a Super Bowl, c'mon british people don't care about football.

                            In Mexico City WE ARE 20 MILLION FANS, we have broke many attendance records in NFL games played here, we purchase NFL Sunday Ticket every year, gear, memorabilia, EVERY YEAR 500,000 MEXICANS TRAVEL TO U.S TO ATTEND THE GAMES and Goodell is still ignoring us. He's a racist!...
                            kind of answered your own question though.. no need to put teams in Mexico or Canada for that matter, there's already rabid fans. have to go to where there's no fans already to expand your brand..

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bandwgn86 View Post
                              what did we ever do to you to deserve the Bills?
                              Lmao.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by giantscolombia View Post
                                This is ridiculous! this would ruin football as we know it.

                                Take a look at Soccer for example. Yes! soccer is played all over the world BUT everyone has their own leagues. Not ONE team from X,Y,Z country plays in a different country. Let them make their own leagues. This other team would have such a disadvantage. PLUS it's not guaranteed that the locals will be attracted and root for that particular team.
                                Guiness International cup, bunch of European Soccer teams, and they're playing at Met Life in August.

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