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  • Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
    ...then we pick up another bum *** LB who sucks in COVERAGE with bad knees ???

    WTF
    And, with a hefty contract. Seems to be a desperation move, and an admission that what we have sucks. I'd rather not accumulate baggage. Take a deep breath and use the draft and FA this off season to begin re-tooling. This is a process that can take several years. Bandaids won't help. It takes time to build a good O Line.

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    • Exactly Mr. Zim...crazy at sounds I'd spend the first 3-4 Picks on G's, T's and Backers.

      I'd band-aid the 2ndary and Backs

      the Lines are the Backbone....and the Balls


      NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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      • He lost his starting job in Carolina to chase Blackburn

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        • Originally posted by zimonami View Post
          And, with a hefty contract. Seems to be a desperation move, and an admission that what we have sucks. I'd rather not accumulate baggage. Take a deep breath and use the draft and FA this off season to begin re-tooling. This is a process that can take several years. Bandaids won't help. It takes time to build a good O Line.
          I've always respected ur opinion but I never agreed with you when u would say we need to start addressing our linebacker issues because we won with average ones. But ur rite this is and has been a major concern and needs to be addressed

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          • putting aside the "heritage" of NYG LBs, the fact is since Pierce, Mitchell and a "healthier" Boley left we've been struggling on the 2nd level of defense.

            I like Paysinger, I like his motor. I like Jaquan, when healthy. But, we need athleticism in the corps.

            When we passed on Burfict(?) I was like this goody-goody ****'s gonna kill us.

            Still before we grab a LB, I want to see commitment to re-building the Offensive Line. Maulers really, failing that just big strong men who can maintain something like a pocket.


            NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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            • I think the d is sad, but the O is pathetic. Unable to sustain a drive, unable to run, Eli's got more picks than TDs (Does he have more sacks than TDs?). We have relied on the front 4 to make up for the shortcomings of the middle three, and have been able to win 2 SB without any burners in the middle. Although it looks like let Chase go was a mistake. JR's judgement on who to keep and who to let go seems normally to work (Bradshaw's career may be over, and I haven't heard of anyone else we let go making any kind of major impact). What happened to the short pass? It seems that Killdrive keeps going for the jugular on every play. Against the Kelly Offense, if this O doesn't sustain a drive, we will get buried.

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              • we are what we are.

                Eli has regressed, badly.

                the O-Line is garbage. I like Coughlin, but it is time. If not him, his coordinators must go. Someone has to go.

                Nassib as a Pick turns out to be something of a smart move...


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                • Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
                  we are what we are.

                  Eli has regressed, badly.

                  the O-Line is garbage. I like Coughlin, but it is time. If not him, his coordinators must go. Someone has to go.

                  Nassib as a Pick turns out to be something of a smart move...
                  Every time I come here, you say exactly what I'm thinking.
                  I've said for a few years that we need a stud LB. I don't know that Beason is any answer with him having that microfracture surgery. Only difference with him and Phillips is that he's younger, and may be able to keep working hard and get his capabilities back.
                  The O line is a several year project. Last year I said it was the worst I could remember going back 40 years. This year it's worse.
                  Next draft I'd be happy to see every pick used for the OL and LBs. We need an enforcer to be proud of on both sides of the line.... A rock on O and an animal LB on D. We haven't had a 1st rnd. LB since Banks in '84.Hope Pugh and Beatty will improve, which leaves only 3 other positions to fill. Snee, Baas, Diehl... done. Baas will still be with us, but he never was anything special.
                  Lots of work ahead of us. Gilbride and Fewell have to go, which means TC will probably be gone, too, At his age you can't expect him to start fresh with new O and D Coordinators.
                  I haven/t been fond of our overall draft impact in the last 3-4 years.
                  Team fortunes are cyclical. We're on a downer. Lots of work ahead.

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                  • Originally posted by zimonami View Post
                    Every time I come here, you say exactly what I'm thinking.
                    I've said for a few years that we need a stud LB. I don't know that Beason is any answer with him having that microfracture surgery. Only difference with him and Phillips is that he's younger, and may be able to keep working hard and get his capabilities back.
                    The O line is a several year project. Last year I said it was the worst I could remember going back 40 years. This year it's worse.
                    Next draft I'd be happy to see every pick used for the OL and LBs. We need an enforcer to be proud of on both sides of the line.... A rock on O and an animal LB on D. We haven't had a 1st rnd. LB since Banks in '84.Hope Pugh and Beatty will improve, which leaves only 3 other positions to fill. Snee, Baas, Diehl... done. Baas will still be with us, but he never was anything special.
                    Lots of work ahead of us. Gilbride and Fewell have to go, which means TC will probably be gone, too, At his age you can't expect him to start fresh with new O and D Coordinators.
                    I haven/t been fond of our overall draft impact in the last 3-4 years.
                    Team fortunes are cyclical. We're on a downer. Lots of work ahead.
                    amen Mr. Zim, amen


                    NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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                    • Could be worse? We could be cowgirl fans.

                      A bad year* with the GMEN is still better than a lifetime of winning SB's as a cowturd fan.

                      *or 2.

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                      • Originally posted by mjg407 View Post
                        I think the d is sad, but the O is pathetic. Unable to sustain a drive, unable to run, Eli's got more picks than TDs (Does he have more sacks than TDs?). We have relied on the front 4 to make up for the shortcomings of the middle three, and have been able to win 2 SB without any burners in the middle. Although it looks like let Chase go was a mistake. JR's judgement on who to keep and who to let go seems normally to work (Bradshaw's career may be over, and I haven't heard of anyone else we let go making any kind of major impact). What happened to the short pass? It seems that Killdrive keeps going for the jugular on every play. Against the Kelly Offense, if this O doesn't sustain a drive, we will get buried.
                        hindsight being 20 20 we shouldve traded off some of this talent after the first SB. The hunger goes after the first ring right.

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                        • Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
                          we are what we are.

                          Eli has regressed, badly.

                          the O-Line is garbage. I like Coughlin, but it is time. If not him, his coordinators must go. Someone has to go.

                          Nassib as a Pick turns out to be something of a smart move...
                          Eli has regressed, which wouldn't be so bad, if he wasn't costing us 100 million. It may be time to throw Nassib in there... see what we got. I dunno. Haven't seen the game, only the stats, which looks like the run game was once again abandoned.

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                          • Wow, just when I thought the team might be coming together the D is now falling apart....... it's a rebuilding year for sure.

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                            • we have no D, they can't stop, they can't get a 3 and out, they can't create turnovers, they generate zero pressure...

                              and with a weak, lethargic Offense that rarely scores, these 2 parts of a whole have shamed themselves and to another extent, us the fans...

                              it's time for b-ball, and that may be just as harsh, as the Nets, Bulls, Pacers and Heat are markedly better than my Knicks. Well, the Bulls and Pacers are kind of a in the same soup as the Knicks BUT where they grind and play gritty Defense, the Knicks try to out-shoot people.

                              dark years for the old school MYC sports teams.


                              NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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                              • Nice to see a 100+ yard run game

                                nice to see the D actually force a few, but clearly not enough, 3 and outs

                                I shall refer to "him" as 10 until he evens out his TD: INT ratio

                                brutal ending, defense is Bill Sheridan or Tim Lewis soft; Jacobs went off but to me this isn't to be expected every week especially depending on his health.

                                the Pick 6 was killer and now is the difference, the Winning Drive pick finished me off and put me into b-ball mode.

                                (and ironically the Knicks have an Offense but Defensively are lacking...)
                                Last edited by giantyankee1976; 10-11-2013, 06:57 AM.


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