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  • Redeyejedi
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    2014 Yankees

    New season with free agency here wanted to vent on how stupid this Ellisbury contract is.

    We fight with Cano over money and he is a top 5 hitter and is on the field every day to give a ridiculous contract to Ellisbury . Im convinced Cashman is clueless

  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by n420p69 View Post
    Thornton is better then Boone Logan
    Agreed. Thornton has made the AS team as early as 2010.. Thornton also Avg's over 9k's per 9innings. Meaning hes striking out more then 1guy per inning. Hes got a career ERA of 3.53, and thats over quite a few seasons.. This offseason reminds me of the off seasons back in the mid to late 90's. If we can get a starter, i honestly beleive this ofseason could be one of the best in a very long time for the yanks..

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  • n420p69
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    Thornton is better then Boone Logan

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  • giantyankee1976
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    Originally posted by NYGisBallin View Post
    Its a start.. Deep bullpens win games in October.
    agreed...just wish we had bankable 1 and 2 starting Pitchers.
    Kuroda and CC SHOULD be that but...

    NYCSport, I think the projected line up has some pop sprinkled throughout the order, I am hopeful that their RISP actually trends upward this upcoming season. The last few too many possible Runs were left stranded on-base.

    However for sentimental, or just mental, reasons I already miss Robbie. lol

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  • NYGisBallin
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    Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
    as for Thornton, he's serviceable. I watched him a few seasons as he played for the ChiSox; but he's nothing to get up in a tizzy about.
    Its a start.. Deep bullpens win games in October.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
    SO Roberts...interesting move and as for Thornton, he's serviceable. I watched him a few seasons as he played for the ChiSox; but he's nothing to get up in a tizzy about.
    Roberts is a little risk, high reward type signing. I love both signings(plus Thornton). Thornton is very similar to Boone Logan and will add a nice veteran presence to the pen as well. The yanks have been linked to Thornton a few times the past few seasons so i thought they might go for him now. Very good moves today. The "glue" type moves.

    Look at this possible starting lineup. I'm basing this on facing a RHP opening day..

    1). Jacoby Ellsbury CF
    2). Derek Jeter SS
    3). Carlos Beltran DH
    4). Alphonso Soriano RF
    5). Mark Texiera 1B
    6). Brian McCann C
    7). Kelly Johnson 3B
    8). Brian Roberts 2B
    9). Brett Gardner LF


    That lineup is potentially, scary good!!!!

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  • giantyankee1976
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    SO Roberts...interesting move and as for Thornton, he's serviceable. I watched him a few seasons as he played for the ChiSox; but he's nothing to get up in a tizzy about.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    There is potential but it looks like a house of cards to me. Lots of players with big time injury concerns and age.
    Again, Beltran has played 145plus games the past 2seasons, and Ellsbury was pretty healthy last yr. And to be honest, i loved what i saw from Brendan Ryan last yr. His defense was flat out outstanding. People act like Stephen Drew is so good, but the dude sucks just as much at the plate, for the most part as Ryan does. If u surround Ryan with Sori, Belt, Ells, Tex, McCann, Johnson, then ya, i'd have no problem at all if Captain goes down, and going ahead with Ryan as the starter. Thats assuming Jeter gets hurt, which isn't a gurantee. Jeter is one of the most durable players out there. If theres ever anyone who deserves the benefit of the doubt, its him..

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    This is what i'm hoping the roster looks like come opening day.. THis is assuming a RHP is facing us..


    1). Jacoby Ellsbury CF
    2). Derek Jeter SS
    3). Carlos Beltran DH
    4). Alphonso Soriano RF
    5). Mark Texiera 1B
    6). Brian McCann C
    7). Kelly Johnson 2B
    8). Brendan Ryan 3B( Prado or Mark Reynolds may be here but aren't signed or traded for yet)
    9). Brett Gardner LF

    How do u like Gardner, Ells, and Jeter, setting the table for Beltran, Sori, Tex, and McCann?? Can u say, INSANE!

    Rotation

    1). CC
    2). Kuroda
    3). Nova
    4). Pineda(thinking either Tanaka, Maholm, or Garza or 2of3 will be signed before said and done but there not as of yet)
    5). Phelps/Nuno/Warren

    Pen
    Robertson
    Cabral
    Warren or Nuno as longman
    Kelley
    Claiborne
    I expect a couple additons that could change this bullpen, like possibly Grant Balfour, Matt Thornton, and possibly Bruce Chen(as longman and another LHP in pen)

    Dude, that team is freaking beastly! Were not nearly done yet, and the team is looking better and better.. For all we know, Chase Healdy, Grant Balfour, Tanaka, Reynolds, and Thornton could all still be added. Just sit back and enjoy the fact the Yanks don't take losing, and will always field a competitive team, unlike the Giants and Knicks.
    There is potential but it looks like a house of cards to me. Lots of players with big time injury concerns and age.

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Kuroda only signed for 1yr. How can u not like that contract? Who cares what the money is, for one yr? And as for the infield, did u miss them sign Kelly Johnson, Derek jeter, and Brendan Ryan all ready? They could easily round it out by bringing back Mark Reynolds or trading for Martin Prado.
    Because we have a self imposed cap, 16 million is a lot towards the rest of the money on the table. You want Ryan and Johnson playing every day? Jeter could be done , he couldnt get on the field last season.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Also, i'd like to add, that Brett Gardner is recieving tons of trade interest now, which could lead to any one of Chase Headley, Jeff Samardzjia, Martin Prado, or Brandon Phillips. Obviously, any of those guys would require a ex player or 2, but Gardy would be center piece.

    Personally, i'd talk to SD at the winter meetings and offer Gardner, Phelps, and Mark Montgomery for Chase Headley.. That would be my ideal trade.. Then go sign Omar Infante and have Kelly Johnson and Infante be the 2B, and Headley obviously are starting 3B.

    OF Ellsbury, Beltran, Soriano, Ichiro
    1B Tex
    2B Johnson and Infante
    SS Jeter and Ryan
    3B Headley and Johnson
    C McCann and Cervelli
    DH A revolving door all yr long.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    This is what i'm hoping the roster looks like come opening day.. THis is assuming a RHP is facing us..


    1). Jacoby Ellsbury CF
    2). Derek Jeter SS
    3). Carlos Beltran DH
    4). Alphonso Soriano RF
    5). Mark Texiera 1B
    6). Brian McCann C
    7). Kelly Johnson 2B
    8). Brendan Ryan 3B( Prado or Mark Reynolds may be here but aren't signed or traded for yet)
    9). Brett Gardner LF

    How do u like Gardner, Ells, and Jeter, setting the table for Beltran, Sori, Tex, and McCann?? Can u say, INSANE!

    Rotation

    1). CC
    2). Kuroda
    3). Nova
    4). Pineda(thinking either Tanaka, Maholm, or Garza or 2of3 will be signed before said and done but there not as of yet)
    5). Phelps/Nuno/Warren

    Pen
    Robertson
    Cabral
    Warren or Nuno as longman
    Kelley
    Claiborne
    I expect a couple additons that could change this bullpen, like possibly Grant Balfour, Matt Thornton, and possibly Bruce Chen(as longman and another LHP in pen)

    Dude, that team is freaking beastly! Were not nearly done yet, and the team is looking better and better.. For all we know, Chase Healdy, Grant Balfour, Tanaka, Reynolds, and Thornton could all still be added. Just sit back and enjoy the fact the Yanks don't take losing, and will always field a competitive team, unlike the Giants and Knicks.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I hate almost every 1 of these contracts. McCann is the only signing I like the rest of these deals are awful. Kuroda is finished he was the worst pitcher in MLB the last few months and for 16 million Cashman is hitting the crack pipe. The outfield looks good on paper albeit way over priced and over extended , wouldnt be surprised if Beltran and Ellisbury miss 100 games between them. Besides McCann I have no idea what the Yankees infield will do considering the whole infield missed the entire season.
    Kuroda only signed for 1yr. How can u not like that contract? Who cares what the money is, for one yr? And as for the infield, did u miss them sign Kelly Johnson, Derek jeter, and Brendan Ryan all ready? They could easily round it out by bringing back Mark Reynolds or trading for Martin Prado.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I hate almost every 1 of these contracts. McCann is the only signing I like the rest of these deals are awful. Kuroda is finished he was the worst pitcher in MLB the last few months and for 16 million Cashman is hitting the crack pipe. The outfield looks good on paper albeit way over priced and over extended , wouldnt be surprised if Beltran and Ellisbury miss 100 games between them. Besides McCann I have no idea what the Yankees infield will do considering the whole infield missed the entire season.
    I coulden't disagree more. Carlos Beltran has played 145 and 151 games the last 2yrs, both resulting in WS appearences by the Cards. Ellsbury is coming off apretty healthy season, and will almost certainly hit for more power in Yankee stadium to add to that ridiculously awesome speed and defense. The numbers don't lie. Ells is just as good as Cano over 162game avg, unless u think hitting 10pts higher and 9more HR's, but about 45less steals, less runs, and less hits is better? Have u ever seen Ellsbury play? The guy has takeover ability in a sport its hard to take over. He can beat u at the plate, on the base paths, and in the field. Hes also here for 7yrs, and Cano signed for 10. I'd take Ells for 7yrs over Cano for 10 every day of the wk. Even if we win 2titles in 7yrs hes here, i'll be stoked. Our lineup is about as deep as you can possibly have it at this point and were probably gonna bring back Mark Reynolds at some point for more RH pop.

    The only question is, is the rotation, but at leaste they got Kuroda back, who hasen't been good to end seasons, but has been great the first 4months of the past 2seasons, and hopefully he'll be better late, as maybe well be able to keep his innings in check alittle.

    I mean, we almost made the postseason with all the injuries we had and a terrible season from CC. Ivan Nova was brilliant the 2nd half of the season and seemed to put it all together, plus Pineda is finally supposedly healthy, which could be a huge diamond in the rough for us, and Phelps, Warren, and Nuno all showed they could pitch last yr, to round it out, and we'll probably add a Garza or Tanaka before said and done.

    I don't know what u wanted, my friend?

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    We signed McCann, Beltran, Kelly Johnson, Ellsbury, Kuroda, Jeter, Brendan Ryan, all ready this offseason and lost Cano and Grandy. I think Cashman and COmp are doing a great job. I think ells contract looks way better now that Robbie signed for 10yr 240million. Its the same per yr just 3less yrs, which is wicked important.

    Also, for all you complaining about Ells and losing Cano and comparing the 2. Take a look at there 162game avg's.. Ells is alot closer to Cano then you would think..

    Cano- 309BA 24hr 97rbi 194hit 94run 4sb

    Ellsbury- 297BA 15HR 71RBI 196hit 108run 55sb


    Also, Ellsbury is probably the most frustrating player to watch on defense if ur fave teams going against him. Hes remarkable out there.
    I hate almost every 1 of these contracts. McCann is the only signing I like the rest of these deals are awful. Kuroda is finished he was the worst pitcher in MLB the last few months and for 16 million Cashman is hitting the crack pipe. The outfield looks good on paper albeit way over priced and over extended , wouldnt be surprised if Beltran and Ellisbury miss 100 games between them. Besides McCann I have no idea what the Yankees infield will do considering the whole infield missed the entire season.

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