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  • #16
    Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
    since last season when he threw 27 TDs to 2 picks..
    Exactly.
    WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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    • #17
      Since Chip Kelly got there.

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      • #18
        Foles was clearly the best QB in the division last year. Whether that carries over into this year is another story. I honestly don't see Foles having a repeat performance of last season.
        One of these teams is not like the others

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BlueBeast88 View Post
          I'm asking because seems like everyone media wise thinks this guy is the best quaterback in the division and that and I'm trying to think
          When this happened ? When did the eagles become this complete team with a franchise qb ?? Because all I see is a quaterback who had one good year
          And is now king of the nfc east anyone else think that's straight bs or i am I just feeling this way because I'm a giants fan
          My guess is that somewhere pigs are flying and hell is freezing over
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          I feel the need......THE NEED FOR SPEED!!!!!!!!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
            7 words that you must understand about the media and pro sports prognosticators

            what have you done for me lately

            .... and please let the built in filter do its job and do not try to censor yourself.... thanks
            So true!! Let's see what they say if he doesn't live up to the hype.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
              Exactly. Foles is #1 until someone outperforms him.
              pretty much
              Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

              http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BlueBeast88 View Post
                I'm asking because seems like everyone media wise thinks this guy is the best quaterback in the division and that and I'm trying to think
                When this happened ? When did the eagles become this complete team with a franchise qb ?? Because all I see is a quaterback who had one good year
                And is now king of the nfc east anyone else think that's straight bs or i am I just feeling this way because I'm a giants fan
                Until further notice, he has the best offensive line in the division.

                To be fair, Foles had a great season.....but when you get protection, and when you have a solid running game, most QBs look better.
                "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BlueBeast88 View Post
                  I'm asking because seems like everyone media wise thinks this guy is the best quaterback in the division and that and I'm trying to think
                  When this happened ? When did the eagles become this complete team with a franchise qb ?? Because all I see is a quaterback who had one good year
                  And is now king of the nfc east anyone else think that's straight bs or i am I just feeling this way because I'm a giants fan

                  There was no question, Foles was the best QB in the division last year. Can he carry it over to this year? I am guessing no, but until proven otherwise, he has earned that title.
                  My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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                  • #24
                    He became the best last year .............by a country mile..........there is no comparison between his accuracy and decision making and Eli's

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                    • #25
                      The kid had an awesome year when he got in to play.. kudos to the eagles and their evolving offence.

                      Until the other 3 teams in the division do enough to supplant them in the " pleasant surprise " category... they deserve to get the credit.
                      my beer drinking team has a football problem

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TrueBlue@NYC View Post
                        Always how players are projected in the NFL, it's done year to year. So don't go nuts, b/c we all know that what a player did one year doesn't always translate again the next year,
                        Of course, unless you're Eli and it's posted on this board. :-)

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                        • #27
                          Josh McCown through 5 games was also great last year. Small sample size, but if you extrapolated his stats to a 10 game season (like Foles), he would have had the same TD to int numbers 26 tds to 2 ints, but like 500 more yards.

                          Josh McCown is a perennial backup QB; he didn't suddenly get better. He was just thrust into a system that worked with just about anyone under center.

                          I think the same could be said for Foles. I think Foles is legitimately better than say, Andy Dalton, but that's really all I'm willing to credit him for right now.

                          Why? Because he had an OL that gave him the most time to attempt a pass last season. He had Lesean McCoy as the defense's main focal point, and he had an offense that caught a lot of teams off guard.

                          But when you take away mccoy's run game through solid gap discipline and taking away the cut back by aligning your MIKE a little behind the play, the game is in a Foles hands. He's capable until you take his first read away, because a lot of times he would only bother to read one half of the field and wait for something to develop. Of course sometimes his OL would bail him out by affording him enough time to switch his gaze cross field and find the open man, but that wasn't the case in much of his two meet ups with Dallas.

                          That said, his pocket presence isn't bad, he's got a good arm, and he tends not to make the stupid play, so I think he has a nice future. I just don't think he's 27td to 2ints good.

                          And unfortunately for him, 3 of his 5 lineman, including his 2 best are (or will be) 32 and older before the season's end.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
                            Josh McCown through 5 games was also great last year. Small sample size, but if you extrapolated his stats to a 10 game season (like Foles), he would have had the same TD to int numbers 26 tds to 2 ints, but like 500 more yards.

                            Josh McCown is a perennial backup QB; he didn't suddenly get better. He was just thrust into a system that worked with just about anyone under center.

                            I think the same could be said for Foles. I think Foles is legitimately better than say, Andy Dalton, but that's really all I'm willing to credit him for right now.

                            Why? Because he had an OL that gave him the most time to attempt a pass last season. He had Lesean McCoy as the defense's main focal point, and he had an offense that caught a lot of teams off guard.

                            But when you take away mccoy's run game through solid gap discipline and taking away the cut back by aligning your MIKE a little behind the play, the game is in a Foles hands. He's capable until you take his first read away, because a lot of times he would only bother to read one half of the field and wait for something to develop. Of course sometimes his OL would bail him out by affording him enough time to switch his gaze cross field and find the open man, but that wasn't the case in much of his two meet ups with Dallas.

                            That said, his pocket presence isn't bad, he's got a good arm, and he tends not to make the stupid play, so I think he has a nice future. I just don't think he's 27td to 2ints good.

                            And unfortunately for him, 3 of his 5 lineman, including his 2 best are (or will be) 32 and older before the season's end.
                            Nte, you just don't understand. Eli threw 27 ints last year so Nick Foles is now a better QB than Eli Manning.

                            Get with the program.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DandyDon View Post
                              Nte, you just don't understand. Eli threw 27 ints last year so Nick Foles is now a better QB than Eli Manning.

                              Get with the program.

                              He was miles above Eli Manning last season. In fact, he was the polar opposite of him, but in a good way.

                              Nick Foles, if he can continue where he left off last season, has a very bright future. Give the man some credit for a very impressive season. No one is going to think any less of you for it.
                              The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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                              • #30
                                He isn't the best QB in the division,but he was the best QB in the division last year.

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