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  • #16
    Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

    [quote user="Eli TO Shockey"]big ben is a top 5 QB in the nfl. he has 2 superbowl rings which he earned. No luck involved.* If he wants to have a sit down with rooney and talk about the direction the offense is going, he has every right to do so. At the end of the day, the decision is made by rooney, not ben.

    If not eli, i would much rather have ben than rivers.
    [/quote]

    that's not the guy you have sit down with. its like eli going to john mara saying we need to draft OL in this years draft cause its filled with them. you talk to the GM behind closed doors not the media. the guy is lucky to be playing for the steelers and lucky to have two SB rings.

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    • #17
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      if you think Eli is elite, but Ben isn't, you're a hypocrite. Simple.

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      • #18
        Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

        first this isnt giants football second it shines a negative light on giant fans with that topic title.


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        • #19
          Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

          [quote user="gumby742"]if you think Eli is elite, but Ben isn't, you're a hypocrite. Simple.[/quote]

          not true at all.

          big ben is elite when he can break the pocket and extend the play. i do not think he is elite at recognizing the defense, taking 5 step drops, and getting rid of the ball in rhythm. so much of his play depends on breaking the pocket and giving his wr's more time to break off their route and get open.

          thats why his size is such a huge factor for him and he can do well with a medeocre OL. he's hard to bring down, and he doesnt need a clean pocket to do well. in fact, he almost does better when the pocket collapses and he's forced to roll out.

          thats just me tho. it is 100% not hypocritical to think eli is elite but ben isn't.

          thats why i think the colts got pitts old OC ayers. bc luck has that same ability to be mobile not to run although he can, but to use his mobility to extend plays.

          edit-thats why he was not nearly as effective a qb when he hurt his foot/ankle. he was not nearly as mobile and had to throw from the pocket. he didnt look good for much of the game vs denver and the big plays he did have came from him extending the play. i remember one play in particular he dropped back, had a clean pocket, and sailed a pass 10 yards over his wr's head for an easy and costly int.

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          • #20
            Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

            Has anyone seen P Rivers lately? He seems to be mysteriously missing...

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            • #21
              Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

              [quote user="NYtoSanDiego"]when the giants won SB42 he was asking ownership to draft a taller wr because of plaxico burress.

              http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailta...d/50632,-1.php

              now he wants to march into rooneys office and tell him what they should do.

              http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/01/28...g-out-of-turn/

              who here said we should've gotten him in 04? the guy is bum who got lucky with his first SB and got lucky with his 2nd playing a cardinals team with no D.[/quote]

              how the hell do you get lucky with 2 rings?

              and how is he a turd for wanting a tall receiver? holy crap everything is classless and bad to you ppl nowadays lol.

              'oh no!! big ben didnt give everyone an autograph. hes a jerk!"

              smh
              Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

              ~Big Mike~

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              • #22
                Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                [quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="NYtoSanDiego"]when the giants won SB42 he was asking ownership to draft a taller wr because of plaxico burress.

                http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailta...d/50632,-1.php

                now he wants to march into rooneys office and tell him what they should do.

                http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/01/28...g-out-of-turn/

                who here said we should've gotten him in 04? the guy is bum who got lucky with his first SB and got lucky with his 2nd playing a cardinals team with no D.[/quote]

                how the hell do you get lucky with 2 rings?

                and how is he a turd for wanting a tall receiver? holy crap everything is classless and bad to you ppl nowadays lol.

                'oh no!! big ben didnt give everyone an autograph. hes a jerk!"

                smh
                [/quote]

                did you watch SB40? 9/21 for 123yds and two ints. yeah... that's winning it for your team.

                the guy is classless, a rapist and still a big turd.

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                • #23
                  Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                  say whatever..i would not take anyone other than Eli at this juncture of his career, that's all need to be said...GO Giants!!!!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                    [quote user="gumby742"]if you think Eli is elite, but Ben isn't, you're a hypocrite. Simple.[/quote]Depending on reasoning. Prior to this year, Eli's best year, everyone's reasoning was the ring and winning games. If that is the case yes, it is hypocritical.

                    I mean now, Eli has put up a better year than Ben has ever put up. Does that make Eli elite and Ben not elite, no, I don't think so. Matter of fact, I think this whole elite discussion is pointless when discussed with a range of different people.
                    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                      [quote user="NYtoSanDiego"][quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="NYtoSanDiego"]when the giants won SB42 he was asking ownership to draft a taller wr because of plaxico burress.

                      http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailta...d/50632,-1.php

                      now he wants to march into rooneys office and tell him what they should do.

                      http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/01/28...g-out-of-turn/

                      who here said we should've gotten him in 04? the guy is bum who got lucky with his first SB and got lucky with his 2nd playing a cardinals team with no D.[/quote]

                      how the hell do you get lucky with 2 rings?

                      and how is he a turd for wanting a tall receiver? holy crap everything is classless and bad to you ppl nowadays lol.

                      'oh no!! big ben didnt give everyone an autograph. hes a jerk!"

                      smh
                      [/quote]

                      did you watch SB40? 9/21 for 123yds and two ints. yeah... that's winning it for your team.

                      the guy is classless, a rapist and still a big turd.[/quote]Why don't you mention the game winning drive vs the Cardinals?

                      Or 26 career game winning drives?

                      Or his 10-3 post season record?

                      He wins, including when it counts the most, he is probably the most clutch QB in the league and he has stats and he does it with pretty average offensive talent.
                      My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                        [quote user="NYtoSanDiego"][quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="NYtoSanDiego"]when the giants won SB42 he was asking ownership to draft a taller wr because of plaxico burress.

                        http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailta...d/50632,-1.php

                        now he wants to march into rooneys office and tell him what they should do.

                        http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/01/28...g-out-of-turn/

                        who here said we should've gotten him in 04? the guy is bum who got lucky with his first SB and got lucky with his 2nd playing a cardinals team with no D.[/quote]

                        how the hell do you get lucky with 2 rings?

                        and how is he a turd for wanting a tall receiver? holy crap everything is classless and bad to you ppl nowadays lol.

                        'oh no!! big ben didnt give everyone an autograph. hes a jerk!"

                        smh
                        [/quote]

                        did you watch SB40? 9/21 for 123yds and two ints. yeah... that's winning it for your team.

                        the guy is classless, a rapist and still a big turd.[/quote]

                        against the seahawks, Bens defense (and to some) the refs handed him the super bowl ring. that could be considered lucky.

                        against the cardinals though, they won that with Ben not despite him.

                        and against green bay, his interceptions, along with mendenhalls fumble made them lose.

                        Finally, why is this a thread again?
                        "...two minute drill at the end of each quarter, Ya'know with the wind like this blowing mooch and marshall into the ocean...If that's behind me I think were getting 3 from 70 so holla at your boy. IF YOU DON"T PICK ME THAT'S A JOKE RIGHT?" - Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker

                        Complain?, ain't Nobody got time for dat!

                        GO GIANTS!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                          [quote user="BlueBlitzer"]Who the Hell did Ben beat ? The Seahawks ? The Cardinals ? ( And He needed a Pick Six and a Mini Hail Mary to win that one ) The first time He had to play a real NFC Champion ( Packers ) He lost.[/quote]Yeah and if the Steelers beat the Packers you'd be saying, "Who'd he beat? The Seahawks? Cardinals? The last seeded Packers?"
                          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                            Jim Caldwell new OC for Steelers?

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                            • #29
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                              [quote user="gmen0820"][quote user="gumby742"]if you think Eli is elite, but Ben isn't, you're a hypocrite. Simple.[/quote]Depending on reasoning. Prior to this year, Eli's best year, everyone's reasoning was the ring and winning games. If that is the case yes, it is hypocritical. I mean now, Eli has put up a better year than Ben has ever put up. Does that make Eli elite and Ben not elite, no, I don't think so. Matter of fact, I think this whole elite discussion is pointless when discussed with a range of different people.[/quote]</P>


                              Saying Eli's performance this year is better then any year Ben has ever put up is highly questionable. To take it a step further, Ben has been playing at a high level since his rookie season. Eli only recently started turning it up. Ben's being doing it better for longer.</P>


                              All arguments made, Ben bests Eli is practically every major category. The football related thing I can think of that Eli has and Ben doesn't is Eli's comback factor.</P>


                              Whether people want to say Eli is better then Ben, whatever. But I'm just pointing out that to think Eli is on a whole different playing field then Ben is rubbish.</P>

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                              • #30
                                Re: Ben Rothlisberger is the biggest turd.

                                [quote user="gumby742"]

                                [quote user="gmen0820"][quote user="gumby742"]if you think Eli is elite, but Ben isn't, you're a hypocrite. Simple.[/quote]Depending on reasoning. Prior to this year, Eli's best year, everyone's reasoning was the ring and winning games. If that is the case yes, it is hypocritical. I mean now, Eli has put up a better year than Ben has ever put up. Does that make Eli elite and Ben not elite, no, I don't think so. Matter of fact, I think this whole elite discussion is pointless when discussed with a range of different people.[/quote]</P>


                                Saying Eli's performance this year is better then any year Ben has ever put up is highly questionable.* To take it a step further, Ben has been playing at a high level since his rookie season.* Eli only recently started turning it up.* Ben's being doing it better for longer.</P>


                                All arguments made,* Ben bests Eli is practically every major category.* The football related thing I can think of that Eli has and Ben doesn't is Eli's comback factor.</P>


                                Whether people want to say Eli is better then Ben, whatever.* But I'm just pointing out that to think Eli is on a whole different playing field then Ben is rubbish.</P>[/quote]

                                the offense he runs is nowhere near the offense the giants run. ive been saying it since mid season as to why chad ochocinco is having such a terrible season, its because of the patriots offense which is is similar to giants offense. finally on First Take this morning mangini said he doesn't know what to do in NE site adjustment offense.

                                never said he was rubbish as a player just a turd of a person. i said he was lucky to play for team like the steelers.

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