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  • #16
    Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
    They were in appeal. Since a dead person can't appeal the cases are thrown away.
    But he was convicted though. If he were still alive the conviction would not have been abated. It will likely be abated now because he killed himself. Either way, I see no way the family has any claims against the NFL for money he was owed. The conviction and life sentence would not have been abated if he did not kill himself.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BleedBlue15 View Post
      The conviction and life sentence would not have been abated if he did not kill himself.
      Doesn't matter, by law he has a clean record (assuming he doesn't have any other older convictions I don't know about.) If the NFL has a clause in contracts that says "if you get convicted of killing someone you don't get paid." Well now he hasn't officially been convicted and would be entitled to the money.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
        Committing suicide would be the real money grab. The NFL now has to pay his family the money he was owed since he wasn't officially convicted of any crimes.
        He was serving the life for the conviction of the Murder of Odin Lloyd. The conviction was life in prison with no chance for Parole​

        The murders he was cleared of Friday was for the two men gunned down in a drive by shooting in Boston. Seemed like there was a lot of incriminating evidence in that one as well but Borz the same Atty that got Casey Anthony off was able to convince a jury he was innocent.That case has nothing to do with what he is serving the life Sentence for.

        He was crying when the announced he was free from those charges and he exchanged glances with his Fiancee and blew kisses to his daughter. His Atty said that if he had been his lawyer for the Odin Trial he would be a free man today. He said this was just the beginning and they would seek an Appeal on the other murder.

        Sounds to me like a man that had something to live for. Would of been a long long process but it makes no sense why he would take his life now??

        His former Lawyer and good friend said Arron made many mistakes and bad choices in his life but he knows for a fact he would not take his life. Especially now..

        Some of the speculation is to that people close to the two Murdered men felt he got away with The murders and got to someone on the inside and made a deal to kill him and make it lookije a suicide

        The part about the barricade set up from the inside to make it harder for the guards to get in sort of shoot holes in that bring the case
        Football has been very, very good to us.
        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
        4-New York Giants!!!
        5-NE
        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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        • #19
          Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
          Doesn't matter, by law he has a clean record (assuming he doesn't have any other older convictions I don't know about.) If the NFL has a clause in contracts that says "if you get convicted of killing someone you don't get paid." Well now he hasn't officially been convicted and would be entitled to the money.
          Doubt they see a penny from the Pats or NFL because of a technicality. If they do, Odin Lloyd's family should bring civil suit to recover that money from Hernandez's family.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BleedBlue15 View Post
            Doubt they see a penny from the Pats or NFL because of a technicality. If they do, Odin Lloyd's family should bring civil suit to recover that money from Hernandez's family.
            Maybe they will maybe they won't but there would be 0 chance if he was still alive.

            As for the civil suit, it just got a lot harder for Lloyd's family because they can't use any evidence from the original trial because it essentially didn't happen now that the case has been tossed. Of course with civil cases having a much lower burden of proof it shouldn't be too hard to win that.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
              They were in appeal. Since a dead person can't appeal the cases are thrown away.
              Wrong.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DandyDon View Post
                Wrong.
                Because of a legal rule called "abatement", he's pretty much correct.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
                  Committing suicide would be the real money grab. The NFL now has to pay his family the money he was owed since he wasn't officially convicted of any crimes.
                  Wrong on so many levels. You are confusing his acquittal charges last week from him actually being convicted for 1st degree murder of Odin Lloyd back In 2013.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
                    They were in appeal. Since a dead person can't appeal the cases are thrown away.
                    Just saw that this is true based upon some archaic "abatement" rule in MA
                    Last edited by TCHOF; 04-19-2017, 05:18 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
                      Doesn't matter, by law he has a clean record (assuming he doesn't have any other older convictions I don't know about.) If the NFL has a clause in contracts that says "if you get convicted of killing someone you don't get paid." Well now he hasn't officially been convicted and would be entitled to the money.
                      How did he have a clean record if he was convicted a few years ago?? He was going to appeal but still he was found guilty for 1st degree murder.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jay051 View Post
                        How did he have a clean record if he was convicted a few years ago?? He was going to appeal but still he was found guilty for 1st degree murder.
                        He didn't go through the appeal process yet, so by legal rule he died innocent.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by jay051 View Post
                          Wrong on so many levels. You are confusing his acquittal charges last week from him actually being convicted for 1st degree murder of Odin Lloyd back In 2013.
                          His wording is incorrect, but technically he's right. He died before his appeal, so because of the abatement rule he died innocent.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by darrin99 View Post
                            He didn't go through the appeal process yet, so by legal rule he died innocent.
                            What?? How can he die innocent if he was convicted a few years back?? I'm not sure how this whole appeal process work but why take so long to even appeal if you were innocent to begin with?? Hernandez's DNA was all over the murder scene of Odin Lloyd.

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                            • #29
                              Wow, my bad. Weird rule:

                              http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/us/aar...ion-abatement/

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by darrin99 View Post
                                His wording is incorrect, but technically he's right. He died before his appeal, so because of the abatement rule he died innocent.
                                Wow........Even after being convicted?? I guess we will truly find out soon enough if it was suicide or murder.

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