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  • #16
    Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

    [quote user="Shockeyitus"]


    [quote user="nygsb42champs"]No way we take another DE in the first round.[/quote]




    Osi is 30 and is in the last year of his contract.....he could also be traded




    Tuck has two years left on his deal and is approaching 30.....he is always banged up too




    Kiwi is in the last year of his dealand..wait for it.... is almost 30....







    What makes you so sure they are definately not going DE in the first?

    [/quote] Coulden't agree more.. The giants have proven they will always replenish the pass rushers, let alone when the pass rushers are aging, and those pass rushers were instrumental in us winning 2sb's.. Whitney Mercilus is a guy the Giants would probably love to draft if hes on the board at 32... The guys basically a Justin Tuck clone, with a bit more athletic ability.. He forces fumbles, and has tremendous strength just like Tuck... Whitney Mercilus is probably my dream scenario to be honest with ya.. I do expect him to be long gone though.. I also expect Whitney to put in work at the combine this weekend..

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    • #17
      Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

      Mercilus is going to be an absolute beast. Im not a fan of Melvin Ingram (small) and I'm not sold on Vinnie Curry just yet.

      Coples will be long gone.
      Mercilus should be gone..
      Jones is my guy. He will prove to be a great pick at 32. JPP type talent
      "Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum. I'll show you how to chew it."

      2014 Draft:
      Round 1 - Eric Ebron, TE - North Carolina
      Round 2 - David Yankey, OG - Stanford
      Round 3 - Allen Robinson, WR - Penn State
      Round 4 - Anthony Johnson, DT - LSU
      Round 5 - Rashaad Reynolds, CB - Oregon State
      Round 6 - Andrew Jackson, ILB - W. Kentucky
      Round 7 - ** Traded for Jon Beason **

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      • #18
        Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

        Just watched a highlight video on Chandler Jones... kid is smooth. He looks a lot like JPP running around and pursuing the ball carrier. Plays with confidence and seems like a silent assassin.
        "Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum. I'll show you how to chew it."

        2014 Draft:
        Round 1 - Eric Ebron, TE - North Carolina
        Round 2 - David Yankey, OG - Stanford
        Round 3 - Allen Robinson, WR - Penn State
        Round 4 - Anthony Johnson, DT - LSU
        Round 5 - Rashaad Reynolds, CB - Oregon State
        Round 6 - Andrew Jackson, ILB - W. Kentucky
        Round 7 - ** Traded for Jon Beason **

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        • #19
          Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

          In the 1st.... I'd be happy with either DE Mercilus/Jones, TE Allen or WR rueben randle..

          we get any 1 of those 5 guys in the 1st.. ill be stoked

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          • #20
            Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

            I could totally see us going DE. It's one thing to be getting old... It's another to be getting old and just won the SB. At some point it would seem you get satisfied. Nothing scientific.

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            • #21
              Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

              [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Cant really complain about the guys you have, although I am not sure i agree with where you have them.

              I would be Shocked is Cousins lasts till that late. He had a good senior bowl week, too good to fall that low. I also think last year showed me that teams who need a Qb will reach for them. His game isnt perfect but he has a huge arm and the coaches like him. I think someone will take a chance on him prior to the 6th round, especially the last pick in the 6th.

              Menzie is a good player. I agree he is underrated. My concern with him is his speed. He has a torn achillies in his past and has had repeated hamstring tweaks as well. I want to see him run well at the combine. People with torn achillies in thier past sometimes have a hard time recovering former speed and quickness. If not for that achillies injury, he would be talked about a lot more than he has been. Ive read a couple people question if he can break 4.6 40. If he can show them wrong, I would love him on this team.

              Green is a guy who's stock is flying up this offseason according to a lot of people. However, he is still very small framed to play tight to the line(6'6 237). I think he will need to add 20lbs before he fits with what we do here. So it isnt just about learning to block, it is also about getting stronger and more physical. Hopefully he comes into the combine with a bit more bulk cause there is a lot to like about him both on and off the field.
              [/quote] Ya, i hope the Giants don't base everything they do with Recieving TE's, on what travis beckum has done.. Beckum is only one player, and there is no telling yet, if hes just a somewhat bust, or if it really was the system.. I love Ladarious Green in the Late rd 3 area, and would actually be very satisfied if he were the pick, especially if were to lose mario manningham, as green should be able to pick up some of the receptions and td's lost with mario.. Plus, we could have a nice 1-2 punch with Ballard and Green if it were to be the case, with balllard serving as the underneath guy and blocker, and Green being the guy who can be a bigmismatch on most lb's and even safety's... Also, we could run some double TE sets in the redzone which would be a nice wrinkle to have...[/quote]

              I dont think Beckum will poison the hybrid TE thought process. I think Reese is smart enough to look at each case individually.

              When we drafted Beckum we thought he could learn to block, but he just hasnt. This makes it hard to put him on the field because without that threat of blocking teams can just go to a nickle package to counter him rather than create the mismatch we wanted, which is him on a LB in the open field. If defenses are gonna go nickle and he cant out muscle a smaller CB, then why not have a WR in there instead.

              Hybrid TEs work. It works for Aaron Hernandez. Jummy Graham as well as a ton of other hybrid TEs this past year.

              That Slot reciever guy, either hybrid TE or slot Wr is gonna be more and more important over the next couple years and beyond. The Rule changes just make the middle of the field too vulnerable. I do not think in years past a guy like Orson Charles gets rated as a NFL TE above Allen or Fleener. The new rules are helping create value for those hybrid guys.





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              • #22
                Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

                I'd be perfectly happy with Green. He's built just like a Giants draft pick with great height, long arms, and he runs like a deer. He gives great effort in his blocks, he just needs to add about 30lbs lol.

                I wouldn't mind them taking 2 TE's as well. I like George Bryan from NC State. He's proven he can be a good blocker already, and was a great receiver when he had a good QB.

                Also, just throwing this out there, but don't be surprised if they roll with Pascoe/Hopkins and use Barden in a pseudo TE role.

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                • #23
                  Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

                  [quote user="Raptor22"]I'd be perfectly happy with Green. He's built just like a Giants draft pick with great height, long arms, and he runs like a deer. He gives great effort in his blocks, he just needs to add about 30lbs lol.

                  I wouldn't mind them taking 2 TE's as well. I like George Bryan from NC State. He's proven he can be a good blocker already, and was a great receiver when he had a good QB.

                  Also, just throwing this out there, but don't be surprised if they roll with Pascoe/Hopkins and use Barden in a pseudo TE role.
                  [/quote]

                  im not sold on Bryan... I feel like he is extremely slow and the Giants offense has a chance to get even more explosive with an athletic TE. He is a sensational blocker, but they could grab a solid veteran to bring in for blocking purposes. Nick Provo is a late round guy I really like.
                  "Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum. I'll show you how to chew it."

                  2014 Draft:
                  Round 1 - Eric Ebron, TE - North Carolina
                  Round 2 - David Yankey, OG - Stanford
                  Round 3 - Allen Robinson, WR - Penn State
                  Round 4 - Anthony Johnson, DT - LSU
                  Round 5 - Rashaad Reynolds, CB - Oregon State
                  Round 6 - Andrew Jackson, ILB - W. Kentucky
                  Round 7 - ** Traded for Jon Beason **

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                  • #24
                    Re: Mock Draft 2.23... outside the box!

                    [quote user="Shockeyitus"][quote user="Raptor22"]I'd be perfectly happy with Green. He's built just like a Giants draft pick with great height, long arms, and he runs like a deer. He gives great effort in his blocks, he just needs to add about 30lbs lol.

                    I wouldn't mind them taking 2 TE's as well. I like George Bryan from NC State. He's proven he can be a good blocker already, and was a great receiver when he had a good QB.

                    Also, just throwing this out there, but don't be surprised if they roll with Pascoe/Hopkins and use Barden in a pseudo TE role.
                    [/quote]

                    im not sold on Bryan... I feel like he is extremely slow and the Giants offense has a chance to get even more explosive with an athletic TE. He is a sensational blocker, but they could grab a solid veteran to bring in for blocking purposes. Nick Provo is a late round guy I really like.[/quote]

                    Yeah, they could get more explosive... but wouldn't it be nice to see some of that explosion come from the running game? How about Bryan blowing up a LB and Scott busting a 60yrd TD run?

                    Bryan is something of a Ballard clone, and until he got hurt, Ballard was one of the most efficient receivers (if not the most) in the league.

                    In JR I TrusT

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