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  • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Please let us get out hands on Doug Martin RB Boise St!! I'm telling ya, this kids next in line of the MJD and Ray Rice type backs.. Hes my 2nd rated RB, in my personal rankings...[/quote]Lamar Miller & David Wilson have got the edge over Martin IMO.
    [/quote]not to me they don't.. Not even close really.. I'm not that high on either Lamar Miller or David Wilson, all though i'd certainly be intrigued if we were to get em... Doug Martin is a do everything back, who can retrun kicks, as well as be a ray rice type potent reciever outta the backfield, and hes got the kinda build i love for the pro game .. I think if Doug Martin played at Florida or Bama, he'd be a sure 1st rd pick, and to be bluntly honest, i won't be surprised if hes the 2nd RB taken in this draft, as hes that good..[/quote]First off, I like Doug Martin, but he's not on a Lamar Miller or David Wilson type level. Hell, I think Chris Polk may have the edge over Martin and end up being a more productive RB at the next level. Polk isn't a burner like Wilson & Miller but he's got great hands and plays hard. Doug Martin is similar to MJD (not as fast) and will fit in all types of systems, Shotgun, spread, run-heavy, ect. One of the networks compared Martin to Ahmad Bradshaw & I have to agree. Martin isn't a guy you're gonna build your offense around like you would w/ Richardson, Wilson, Miller, ect. Those 3 guys can handle a heavy workload & carry the ball 20 plus times a game. I don't see that w/ Martin at the next level. He'll fit in nicely as a solid complementary back as part of a rotation IMO. With that said, I wouldn't mind the Giants drafting anyone of these studs! This RB class is pretty deep-
    (no order)
    1) Trent Richardson
    2) David Wilson
    3) Lamar Miller
    4) Doug Martin
    5) Chris Polk
    6) LaMichael James
    7) Bernard Pierce
    8) Isaiah Pead
    9) Cyrus Gray
    10) Robert Turpin
    11) Ronnie Hillman
    12) Tauren Poole
    13) Chris Rainey
    14) Darrell Scott
    15) Daniel Herron

    [/quote] They said the same thing about MJD and Ray Rice when they slipped to the 2nd rd, and i said the same thing about Ray Rice the yr he came out.. I'll take Doug Martin as the 2nd best RB in this class, and hes pretty darn fast as well... Hes been outstanding on the field, at the Sr Bowl, and now hes making noise at the combine, tying for the high on the bench press for RB's... Hes a beast...[/quote]Who is they?
    [/quote] THEY is the people that let MJD and Ray Rice go into the RD 2 area, because there was no way they were better then guys like Mendenhall, Felix Jones, and Jamal Charles, and for MJD, guys like Deangelo Williams, Joseph Addai and Lendale White.. Thats who "THEY" are...[/quote]So "THEY" means NFL teams in general?
    [/quote] And most So called "draft experts" as well.... Another words, its not always just the "rankings" must be right.. Just watch and look at Doug Martin, and its pretty easy to see hes gonna be a good one..[/quote]There's no question he's got all the tools to be a good back at the next level, my thing is HOW GOOD WILL HE BE? I know you have him in your "personal rankings" as the #2 RB in the draft. I like Doug Martin, but I think there's a couple guys ahead of him in terms of talent. You seem to be pretty high on Doug Martin, you wanna make a sig bet?
    [/quote] We'll just remeber now what we say, and give the other there props if there right.. I"m telling you, Doug martin is gonna be ridicluously hard to tackle with that center of gravity and on top of that, hes got serious shiftieness as well.. The thing is, it'll probably take a yr or 2 like it did for Ray Rice before his team realizes "screw that, this kids our 25carry back!". ya know? Unless Rice and MJD did enough all ready to shake the perception of the short guys having to be split the load backs?[/quote]You didn't answer my question pal, let's make a SIG BET on Doug Martin and the NFL DRAFT, ok?

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    • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

      [quote user="BlueSanta"]Just gotta say, as a whole, this is 1 seriously fast RB class.

      Conversely, this is a pretty slow WR class as a whole.
      [/quote]
      I'm actually surprised as to how fast WRs were. I was expecting a lot less sub 4.5s in a class dominated with a lot of big bodied receivers.

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      • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

        [quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Just gotta say, as a whole, this is 1 seriously fast RB class.

        Conversely, this is a pretty slow WR class as a whole.
        [/quote]
        I'm actually surprised as to how fast WRs were. I was expecting a lot less sub 4.5s in a class dominated with a lot of big bodied receivers.[/quote]
        Tommy streeter & Stephen hill are very intriguing with their size/speed......
        Kendal wright & mohamed sanu are very suprising

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        • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

          [quote user="myles2424"][quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Just gotta say, as a whole, this is 1 seriously fast RB class.

          Conversely, this is a pretty slow WR class as a whole.
          [/quote]
          I'm actually surprised as to how fast WRs were. I was expecting a lot less sub 4.5s in a class dominated with a lot of big bodied receivers.[/quote]
          Tommy streeter & Stephen hill are very intriguing with their size/speed......
          Kendal wright & mohamed sanu are very suprising[/quote]
          Seriously wtf happened to wright. On the bright side we now have an opportunity to draft MM's successor

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          • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

            [quote user="myles2424"][quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Just gotta say, as a whole, this is 1 seriously fast RB class.

            Conversely, this is a pretty slow WR class as a whole.
            [/quote]
            I'm actually surprised as to how fast WRs were. I was expecting a lot less sub 4.5s in a class dominated with a lot of big bodied receivers.[/quote]
            Tommy streeter & Stephen hill are very intriguing with their size/speed......
            Kendal wright & mohamed sanu are very suprising[/quote]

            Sanu ran what I expected. He never was a fast receiver. Wright however was a huge headscratcher.

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            • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

              Robert Turbin is an absolute beast he is so ridiculously big and he ran a 4.50

              Lamar Miller confirmed as the fastest RB with a 4.40

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              • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                [quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="myles2424"][quote user="bLuereverie"][quote user="BlueSanta"]Just gotta say, as a whole, this is 1 seriously fast RB class.

                Conversely, this is a pretty slow WR class as a whole.
                [/quote]
                I'm actually surprised as to how fast WRs were. I was expecting a lot less sub 4.5s in a class dominated with a lot of big bodied receivers.[/quote]
                Tommy streeter & Stephen hill are very intriguing with their size/speed......
                Kendal wright & mohamed sanu are very suprising[/quote]

                Sanu ran what I expected. He never was a fast receiver. Wright however was a huge headscratcher.[/quote]

                I never bought people saying Wright was gonna be the fastest guy at the combine. I didn't think he would run that well but he managed to do worst than I thought

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                • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                  Saw on Giants 101 they set up a meeting with Reuben Randle. I like Randle a lot . He would of put up better numbers if the worst QB in the SEC wasnt throwing him the ball

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                  • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Saw on Giants 101 they set up a meeting with Reuben Randle. I like Randle a lot . He would of put up better numbers if the worst QB in the SEC wasnt throwing him the ball[/quote] my only question with randle is does he have the speed to get behind the defense for the deep ball.

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                    • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                      Yes. He's marginally slower than Nicks.

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                      • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                        [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Saw on Giants 101 they set up a meeting with Reuben Randle. I like Randle a lot . He would of put up better numbers if the worst QB in the SEC wasnt throwing him the ball[/quote]where do you see Randle going round wise? I think Mayock had him as his 5th best WR.

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                        • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                          [quote user="tonyt830"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Saw on Giants 101 they set up a meeting with Reuben Randle. I like Randle a lot . He would of put up better numbers if the worst QB in the SEC wasnt throwing him the ball[/quote]where do you see Randle going round wise?* I think Mayock had him as his 5th best WR.[/quote] I have to put my Top 100 together but he will be a Top 40 guy for sure. i wouldnt blink if he got picked at the end of the first.

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                          • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                            [quote user="BluGiantPies"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Saw on Giants 101 they set up a meeting with Reuben Randle. I like Randle a lot . He would of put up better numbers if the worst QB in the SEC wasnt throwing him the ball[/quote] my only question with randle is does he have the speed to get behind the defense for the deep ball.[/quote]

                            4.55 is pretty good. Nicks ran about the same as that I think plus he is 6'3 so if he can't really get behind his man i'm sure he can still go up high and catch the ball

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                            • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                              [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Please let us get out hands on Doug Martin RB Boise St!! I'm telling ya, this kids next in line of the MJD and Ray Rice type backs.. Hes my 2nd rated RB, in my personal rankings...[/quote]Lamar Miller & David Wilson have got the edge over Martin IMO.
                              [/quote]not to me they don't.. Not even close really.. I'm not that high on either Lamar Miller or David Wilson, all though i'd certainly be intrigued if we were to get em... Doug Martin is a do everything back, who can retrun kicks, as well as be a ray rice type potent reciever outta the backfield, and hes got the kinda build i love for the pro game .. I think if Doug Martin played at Florida or Bama, he'd be a sure 1st rd pick, and to be bluntly honest, i won't be surprised if hes the 2nd RB taken in this draft, as hes that good..[/quote]First off, I like Doug Martin, but he's not on a Lamar Miller or David Wilson type level. Hell, I think Chris Polk may have the edge over Martin and end up being a more productive RB at the next level. Polk isn't a burner like Wilson & Miller but he's got great hands and plays hard. Doug Martin is similar to MJD (not as fast) and will fit in all types of systems, Shotgun, spread, run-heavy, ect. One of the networks compared Martin to Ahmad Bradshaw & I have to agree. Martin isn't a guy you're gonna build your offense around like you would w/ Richardson, Wilson, Miller, ect. Those 3 guys can handle a heavy workload & carry the ball 20 plus times a game. I don't see that w/ Martin at the next level. He'll fit in nicely as a solid complementary back as part of a rotation IMO. With that said, I wouldn't mind the Giants drafting anyone of these studs! This RB class is pretty deep-
                              (no order)
                              1) Trent Richardson
                              2) David Wilson
                              3) Lamar Miller
                              4) Doug Martin
                              5) Chris Polk
                              6) LaMichael James
                              7) Bernard Pierce
                              8) Isaiah Pead
                              9) Cyrus Gray
                              10) Robert Turpin
                              11) Ronnie Hillman
                              12) Tauren Poole
                              13) Chris Rainey
                              14) Darrell Scott
                              15) Daniel Herron

                              [/quote] They said the same thing about MJD and Ray Rice when they slipped to the 2nd rd, and i said the same thing about Ray Rice the yr he came out.. I'll take Doug Martin as the 2nd best RB in this class, and hes pretty darn fast as well... Hes been outstanding on the field, at the Sr Bowl, and now hes making noise at the combine, tying for the high on the bench press for RB's... Hes a beast...[/quote]Who is they?
                              [/quote] THEY is the people that let MJD and Ray Rice go into the RD 2 area, because there was no way they were better then guys like Mendenhall, Felix Jones, and Jamal Charles, and for MJD, guys like Deangelo Williams, Joseph Addai and Lendale White.. Thats who "THEY" are...[/quote]So "THEY" means NFL teams in general?
                              [/quote] And most So called "draft experts" as well.... Another words, its not always just the "rankings" must be right.. Just watch and look at Doug Martin, and its pretty easy to see hes gonna be a good one..[/quote]There's no question he's got all the tools to be a good back at the next level, my thing is HOW GOOD WILL HE BE? I know you have him in your "personal rankings" as the #2 RB in the draft. I like Doug Martin, but I think there's a couple guys ahead of him in terms of talent. You seem to be pretty high on Doug Martin, you wanna make a sig bet?
                              [/quote] We'll just remeber now what we say, and give the other there props if there right.. I"m telling you, Doug martin is gonna be ridicluously hard to tackle with that center of gravity and on top of that, hes got serious shiftieness as well.. The thing is, it'll probably take a yr or 2 like it did for Ray Rice before his team realizes "screw that, this kids our 25carry back!". ya know? Unless Rice and MJD did enough all ready to shake the perception of the short guys having to be split the load backs?[/quote]And what I'm saying is BOTH David Wilson & Lamar Miller will be drafted ahead of Doug Martin. I know you don't see it that way, but that's the way it will go down in this years draft. Like I said, I like Martin, but Miller and Wilson have clearly got the edge. SIG BET is still open

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                              • Re: OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

                                I guess Randle would be okay. Dont think he has great upside but is excellent working the middle of the field and getting open against zone coverage. Good fit for the giants at 32, but as a whole I dont see him as 1st round talent or in the same class as the top wideouts

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