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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Kuechly just ran a 4.5 40 Incredible time for him. He had an outstanding combine.
    Vontaze Burfict 4.93 as he continues to systemically destroy his draft stock in every possible way

    Hightower a 4.62 very nice time[/quote]

    I told people that after watching the 2 FSU game tapes(2010 & 2011) people were vastly underrating his athleticism.

    Just watch the play where he runs down Davnta Freeman of FSU. Freeman is a lightning fast freshman at FSU who people will know more about in a year or 2.

    Then watch how many tackles he makes are along the sidelines. It was clear that FSU's gameplan was to attack the edges of that defense, that would normally negate a MLB, or at least tire him to the point of inneffectivity, but not Kuechly.
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      JMJ, Tank Carder, and Audie Cole have looked good out there. Possible mid-round prospects.

      [quote user="TheEnigma"]I know it's just the combine but damn Poe...

      I don't see how this guy gets past 15 at this point with his physical abilities and size.[/quote]

      Level of competition and rawness.

      but 15 is probably about where I'm thinking he'll go.



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        [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Burficts 2nd attempt a 5.10

        There is no way he goes in the first round he may fall into the middle rounds[/quote]

        I remember a couple years ago when Brandon Spikes ran a 5.0 how devastating it was to his stock. Brandon's tape was 100x better than Burficts and he was 1000x the leader Bufict is.

        I actually Liken Burficts stock to former LSU linebacker Ali Highsmith. Prior to the combine people were talking about Ali as a top 15 pick. Several people on these boards were clamoring for him.

        Then he come to the combine and ran a 4.95 and a 5.03. Rumors were he interviewed horribly too.


        He went undrafted.


        I think Burfict will be drafted but now I think it will be as low as the 5th round. It could be even lower.
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          [quote user="critters"][quote user="Neverend"]I think demario davis is pretty underrated. Hopefully his performance here improves his draft stock[/quote]

          I hope it doesn't. He's my top sleeper in the draft and a guy I have us mocked as taking in a late round. I hope everyone keeps forgetting about the guy so we can get him late.
          [/quote] what about mychael kendricks? Geez, 4.4.....looked good in the drills,PAC 12 defensive player of the year......idk how nobody's talked about this guy until now

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            [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="BluGiantPies"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Poes numbers are the most freakish Ive ever seen. A 346 pound man should not be able to run that fast. Even his split 1.7 is very strong

            Comparison for Poe, Haloti Ngata at 338 pounds ran a 5.13 with a 1.73 split and had 37 reps[/quote]
            Poe is the jpp of nose tackles he's going top 15 now more then likely. Shame he would look great next to linval in blue.[/quote]

            Poe would be absolutely wasted at Nose. With his athleticism, he's a jumbo sized 3-tech.
            [/quote]
            Nah, despite his numbers he isnt a penetration guy as much as he is a space eating, immovable object.

            He does get good push, but he is meant for the NT position.

            People also gotta consider this kid has only been lifting weights for a 3 years or so. It is very fair to say he will be stronger in a year than he is now. Thats not usually the case with draftees who get in the best shape of their life for the combine.
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              [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Burficts 2nd attempt a 5.10

              There is no way he goes in the first round he may fall into the middle rounds[/quote]

              I remember a couple years ago when Brandon Spikes ran a 5.0 how devastating it was to his stock. Brandon's tape was 100x better than Burficts and he was 1000x the leader Bufict is.

              I actually Liken Burficts stock to former LSU linebacker Ali Highsmith. Prior to the combine people were talking about Ali as a top 15 pick. Several people on these boards were clamoring for him.

              Then he come to the combine and ran a 4.95 and a 5.03. Rumors were he interviewed horribly too.


              He went undrafted.


              I think Burfict will be drafted but now I think it will be as low as the 5th round. It could be even lower.
              [/quote]Very possible

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                [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Kuechly just ran a 4.5 40 Incredible time for him. He had an outstanding combine.
                Vontaze Burfict 4.93 as he continues to systemically destroy his draft stock in every possible way

                Hightower a 4.62 very nice time[/quote]

                I told people that after watching the 2 FSU game tapes(2010 & 2011) people were vastly underrating his athleticism.

                Just watch the play where he runs down Davnta Freeman of FSU. Freeman is a lightning fast freshman at FSU who people will know more about in a year or 2.

                Then watch how many tackles he makes are along the sidelines. It was clear that FSU's gameplan was to attack the edges of that defense, that would normally negate a MLB, or at least tire him to the point of inneffectivity, but not Kuechly.
                [/quote]Freeman is lightning in a bottle, fun to watch. Really impressed as a freshman. I'm anxious to see how Mario Pender pans out. He looks to be another promising RB if he can keep his nose clean & stay out of trouble.

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                  [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Kuechly just ran a 4.5 40 Incredible time for him. He had an outstanding combine. Vontaze Burfict 4.93 as he continues to systemically destroy his draft stock in every possible way Hightower a 4.62 very nice time[/quote]

                  I told people that after watching the 2 FSU game tapes(2010 & 2011) people were vastly underrating his athleticism.

                  Just watch the play where he runs down Davnta Freeman of FSU. Freeman is a lightning fast freshman at FSU who people will know more about in a year or 2.

                  Then watch how many tackles he makes are along the sidelines. It was clear that FSU's gameplan was to attack the edges of that defense, that would normally negate a MLB, or at least tire him to the point of inneffectivity, but not Kuechly.
                  [/quote] I seen him catch Lamar Miller who had a head of steam and the only person left that had a chance at the line of scrimmage(it was a outside run), was kuechly, adn he caught em.. Thats when i mentioned his speed..

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                    [quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Ya, i'm good with that dude.. I'm just gonna watch and see what happens.. Its not a bet im interested in really.. Thanks for asking though... I'll take the bowling ball 5ft 9in 223lb 4.47 40 kid who catches the ball and returns kicks as well, but some teams are looking for a speedster, like David Wilson, who will lose huge chunks of yards trying to make something outta nothing sometimes, but also break a big one at any time.. Its basically all in what your looking for or want or need in a back...I personally love Ray Rice/ MJD/ Doug Martin type backs.. Some like Shady McCoy/ Cj Spiller/ David Wilson type backs.. Its all in what u want and need or have for that matter..[/quote]I like backs that can play football, point blank. And in this draft, there's plenty of those backs including TRich, Lamar Miller, David Wilson, Doug Martin, ect. I don't have a personal preference in playing styles like you stated above. Oh well, I guess there's no SIG BET. You're soft Sportzfan! j/k
                    [/quote] Ya, don't get me wrong, i like "football" players more then anyone probably on these boards.. I just feel the MJD/ Ray Rice/ D.Martin type backs, are so freaking dominant, because they just can do everything, and have body types, that for the most part, keep them healthy, becasue of how thick they are, that its really enticing.. Doug Martin just seems to me like a guy whos gonna be a workhorse, and can pretty much do anything u ask, include return kicks... With the offense we run, i think a bowling ball fits better, then a outside running speedster, which is what david wilson is..

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                      I love martin too. So polished, always plays low, and is just as good as richardson at breaking/bouncing off tackles at a consistent level.

                      really wish rb was a need this year. organization seems content with jacobs =[

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                        [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Cox didnt run a 4.68- 4.69 like I thought. He ran a 4.79. However his 10 yard split of 1.63 was tied for the second best time of all the lineman through the first run. The same 10 yard split as Bruce Irvin and Coples at 298 pounds. The same as Lamichael James as well.Andre Branch was the fastest as a 1.56. A Split like that is incredible for a big guy. He is going to be a nasty inside pass rusher[/quote]

                        He passes the eye test too. He just looks strong, even among his peers.
                        [/quote] Ya, there is no surprise with Fletcher Cox from me, i expected him to be a beast, i've been raving about Cox for quite awhile now.... Hes the complete package, and his strength is really underrated, and hes got the motor to go with that strength.. He just looks ripped is what i was saying well before this combine, and well before he did 30reps on the press with 34.5in arms.. I've had him right there with Devon Still weeks, and probably even a month ago.. Basically once i really started becoming familiar with Cox, is when i've started raving about him, and putting him up there with Whitney Mercilus and a couple others, as guys i dream the giants will have a chance at in the draft...

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                          [quote user="Neverend"]I love martin too. So polished, always plays low, and is just as good as richardson at breaking/bouncing off tackles at a consistent level. really wish rb was a need this year. organization seems content with jacobs =[[/quote] Ya, but u would think we'd be pretty sure that this would be the last yr they can trust BJ's skills, and possibly draft his successor, and even have em as the 3rd down back behind AB and BJ... Doug Martin will be gone before we pick in RD 2, and that guy is my dream back, but there is plenty of other sensational backs, like Pead, Turbin, Ballard, and so on and so fourth, who could fit nicely as our 3rd back, and future 2, and possibly future 1...

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                            Fletcher Cox, DE/DT, Mississippi State
                            Warren Sapp called Fletcher Cox "his guy." Cox was highly impressive at the Combine, running a 4.79 40 with a 1.63 10-yard split despite measuring in at 6-4, 298. Cox also benched 30 reps despite having 34 1/2-inch arms. To top it off, he was terrific in the field drills. He could be chosen in the first half this April.

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                              [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Ya, i'm good with that dude.. I'm just gonna watch and see what happens.. Its not a bet im interested in really.. Thanks for asking though... I'll take the bowling ball 5ft 9in 223lb 4.47 40 kid who catches the ball and returns kicks as well, but some teams are looking for a speedster, like David Wilson, who will lose huge chunks of yards trying to make something outta nothing sometimes, but also break a big one at any time.. Its basically all in what your looking for or want or need in a back...I personally love Ray Rice/ MJD/ Doug Martin type backs.. Some like Shady McCoy/ Cj Spiller/ David Wilson type backs.. Its all in what u want and need or have for that matter..[/quote]I like backs that can play football, point blank. And in this draft, there's plenty of those backs including TRich, Lamar Miller, David Wilson, Doug Martin, ect. I don't have a personal preference in playing styles like you stated above. Oh well, I guess there's no SIG BET. You're soft Sportzfan! j/k
                              [/quote] Ya, don't get me wrong, i like "football" players more then anyone probably on these boards.. I just feel the MJD/ Ray Rice/ D.Martin type backs, are so freaking dominant, because they just can do everything, and have body types, that for the most part, keep them healthy, becasue of how thick they are, that its really enticing.. Doug Martin just seems to me like a guy whos gonna be a workhorse, and can pretty much do anything u ask, include return kicks... With the offense we run, i think a bowling ball fits better, then a outside running speedster, which is what david wilson is..[/quote]

                              Agreed. Also, the low, thick, bowling ball guys are just plain hard to tackle. Yeah, he might not break one, but I'll take a steady diet of 5.5ypc over runs of 1,-1,0,4,0,20. Oh, and Martin can catch.

                              I'm also warming to Rob Turbin as well (unsurprising as they're very similar players)

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                                [quote user="nycsportzfan"] Fletcher Cox, DE/DT, Mississippi State
                                Warren Sapp called Fletcher Cox "his guy." Cox was highly impressive at the Combine, running a 4.79 40 with a 1.63 10-yard split despite measuring in at 6-4, 298. Cox also benched 30 reps despite having 34 1/2-inch arms. To top it off, he was terrific in the field drills. He could be chosen in the first half this April.
                                [/quote]nyc, I did not watch all of todays combine yet. I watched some of the LBs 40s and drills. I did see some of the D-Line highlights and was very impressed in Cox and Poe.







                                You think Cox could be there at 32? If Reese sees him as BPA, I can see him a Giant, regardless of need at TE and OT. I see Poe going to a 3-4 team that needs a NT. The Steelers come to mind, but I can see the Texans or Chargers being in play for Poe as well.

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