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  • #16
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    [quote user="TheEnigma"]Miami is a possibility but 39 to 42 could kick out some potential prospects and I could see Doug Martin possibility being off the board. Also, the just signed Garrard to compete with Moore so you have to wonder if they are content with those two for this year and possibly have their eyes set on Barkley in next year's draft.

    What about Jacksonville? They have the 38th selection and if Cordy Glenn or Mike Adams are still on the board, they could really use a good linemen to protect Gabbert.

    So it would be the Giants trading their 32 for the Jaguars 38, 101, and 134.

    What do you gentlemen think of that?[/quote]

    i think i'm okay with this one sir, the Jags are not to far down where we sacrifice talent and that extra 5th is the icing on the cake for me for this trade. if no one else comes in with something new or a fleener pick @ 32 by tomorrow at the posted times then sign me up.

    Unless Blu or Kruunch has a different trade opportunity, just need one of them to cosign as well and its a majortiy vote.

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    • #17
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      [quote user="TheEnigma"]Round 1. Pick 32 New York Giants trade 1st to St. Louis Rams for their 2nd (Pick 39) and 4th (Pick 97). I believe that the Browns will select Blackmon at Pick 4, leaving the Rams to take either Claiborne, Richardson, or Reiff. This still leaves the Rams without a decent receiving option. One possibility that could present itself is that Coby Fleener and Stephen Hill both will be available at 32 but they have interest in both prospects. Due to the recent Martellus Bennet signing, selecting a TE might nor occur and since we have no immediate need at WR, we'll likely go mid round there as well. This trade lines us up for the following prospects: 1. Doug Martin (RB) / Stephon Gillmore (CB) / Kendall Reyes (DT) 2. Dropped prospect - Mark Barron (S) 3. Round 2. Pick 39: Tackle / Running Back / Tight End 4. Doug Martin (RB) Need for depth Outside of Bradshaw, we have no one else to be confident in at this position. Ware? He's just been a warm body for us on the depth chart who can do decent pass blocking. Brown? Former practice squad guy that you can't really rely on to become a star. Scott? He has a case of the fumbles this past season but he has potential. Still, we need better talent regardless. Martin offers the Giants a receiving/screen type of RB who is also powerful between the tackles. The only knacks in his game are not having elite speed and being a bit raw in pass protection. This depends a lot if we end up resigning Jacobs. If we do, I'd select someone else.[/quote] I don't know if the browns will take blackmon, but i think if they don't, there completely stupid!!!lol If they take Ryan Tannehill, i will just continue to laugh at them as a franchise.. Blackmon has a chance to be a Larry Fitzgerald/Andre Johnson type impact WR, and u just don't pass on one of those, for a guy who i believe is a 3rd rd prospect, in Tannehill...




      Anyhow, i like the trade with St louis that u chose, and i would be so down with that.. U still have a chance to get the player you were gonna take at 32 anyways, and worst case scenario, your getting a guy when u drop down that u could certainly make a arguement to why he's better then whoever got taken at 32 anyways... So i'm going with your Trade which lines us up with these prospects...




      1. Andre Branch DE Clemson/ Doug Martin RB Boise St/ Amini Silatolu G Midwestern St.




      2. Dropped Prospect- Peter konz C Wisc- I just think sometimes teams under value C's, and Konz could possilby slip




      3. RD 2/Pick 39- TE/RB/Oline




      4. Doug Martin- This kids a complete back, and also can return kicks if need be, and with jacobs gone, we could use another back to challenge Darrell Scott and whoever else is there at the positon going into the season..

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      • #18
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        [quote user="rainierjef"][quote user="TheEnigma"]Miami is a possibility but 39 to 42 could kick out some potential prospects and I could see Doug Martin possibility being off the board. Also, the just signed Garrard to compete with Moore so you have to wonder if they are content with those two for this year and possibly have their eyes set on Barkley in next year's draft.

        What about Jacksonville? They have the 38th selection and if Cordy Glenn or Mike Adams are still on the board, they could really use a good linemen to protect Gabbert.

        So it would be the Giants trading their 32 for the Jaguars 38, 101, and 134.

        What do you gentlemen think of that?[/quote]

        i think i'm okay with this one sir, the Jags are not to far down where we sacrifice talent and that extra 5th is the icing on the cake for me for this trade. if no one else comes in with something new or a fleener pick @ 32 by tomorrow at the posted times then sign me up.

        Unless* Blu or Kruunch has a different trade opportunity, just need one of them to cosign as well and its a majortiy vote.
        [/quote]

        When was the last time the Giants traded out of the first round?

        I don't see them trading back.
        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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        • #19
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          This is not my original idea it was a great plan by GGTM_1977 to get everyone to collectively map out a solid blueprint for how we as fans would like to see our organization select its future in the upcoming draft.

          Read the bold part Kruunch

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          • #20
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            [quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="rainierjef"][quote user="TheEnigma"]Miami is a possibility but 39 to 42 could kick out some potential prospects and I could see Doug Martin possibility being off the board. Also, the just signed Garrard to compete with Moore so you have to wonder if they are content with those two for this year and possibly have their eyes set on Barkley in next year's draft. What about Jacksonville? They have the 38th selection and if Cordy Glenn or Mike Adams are still on the board, they could really use a good linemen to protect Gabbert. So it would be the Giants trading their 32 for the Jaguars 38, 101, and 134. What do you gentlemen think of that?[/quote]

            i think i'm okay with this one sir, the Jags are not to far down where we sacrifice talent and that extra 5th is the icing on the cake for me for this trade. if no one else comes in with something new or a fleener pick @ 32 by tomorrow at the posted times then sign me up.

            Unless Blu or Kruunch has a different trade opportunity, just need one of them to cosign as well and its a majortiy vote.
            [/quote] When was the last time the Giants traded out of the first round? I don't see them trading back.[/quote]




            I Dont remember the giants ever trading out of the first.
            but the community mock is not about what we think the giant's would do
            its what we would do if the decision was ours, and the negoitiaons amongst each other to come to a common ground
            I agree though i rather not trade out of the first i still think there is value at 32 that's drops off going into the later rounds
            but it's a majority rules thing and if trading down is the majority
            i rather trade with the JAGS for their 2nd 4th and 5th.




            but Kruunch if you can get other people to agree with your pick you only need two people to over rule the trading down.
            Fleener is my guy, i think people are skeptical of him cuase he didn't run the forty at the combine some people are even saying
            hes as slow as 4.7-4.8 I Think he surprises all at his pro day. pro style ready, can block, can be an asset to running downs and is an upgrade to the line as well, the eagles got good outside Corners we need someon to exploit their weakness which is the middle, same with Cowboys. we gotta win the division gentlemen Fleener helps us do that.


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            • #21
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              I like Fleener but I see a guy like Doug Martin who is the best all-around weapon in this draft (exception of Richardson) that can benefit our offense in so many ways.

              Power running game to pound the ball and tire the defense? Check

              Ability to perform screens (that none of our RB's are good at) to neutralize pass rushes? Check

              Receiving threat from the backfield or slot like Ray Rice or Tiki? Check

              Both Fleener and Martin are a bit raw in pass protection but the latter already has the build for it and just needs coaching. Fleener's current blocking isn't going to cut it plus he does need more mass to add.

              Doug Martin doesn't have elite speed but we already have Scott who runs a 4.3 to be the change of pace back.

              This pick also helps protect Eli better since we need to get better at running the football not only with linemen selections but a better backfield as well. We would be screwed if we lost Bradshaw to an injury. We proved last year that TE isn't that big of a deal with Eli making Ballard look good.

              Getting more balanced on offense makes us less predictable and takes off some of the heat on Eli and in turn, less chance of him getting injured. That San Francisco game was great but we can't afford to allow that to happen too many times.

              Don't get me wrong. I think Fleener is a great prospect and good kid but there are other TE's further down the draft you can develop to bring the same skillset he has at the moment.

              There's also good RB's as well but most of them would fit better in a committee system or only bring one thing to the table.

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              • #22
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                Gents i am honored that my idea was actually considered for this.....here we go:

                Mark Barron (SS) /Stephen Hill (WR) / Mike Adams (OT)

                Dropped to us: Cordy Glenn OG

                Round 1: Oline / DB / WR

                Stepeh Hill (WR) BPA

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                • #23
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                  Stephen Hill is an interesting choice. i would love that pick but i don't see him going past one of the Pats picks / or in the top 20.




                  I Think out of your list Barron might be the one there at 32.




                  but GGTM my man.. it looks like were trading out of the 1st its majority right now and we only got a couple hours till close out of the First, Unless i can talk you into going with Fleener lol




                  i think its down to




                  The rams or the jags unless otherwise.


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                  • #24
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                    [quote user="rainierjef"]

                    Stephen Hill is an interesting choice. i would love that pick but i don't see him going past one of the Pats picks / or in the top 20.




                    I Think out of your list Barron might be the one there at 32.




                    but GGTM my man.. it looks like were trading out of the 1st its majority right now and we only got a couple hours till close out of the First, Unless i can talk you into going with Fleener lol




                    i think its down to




                    The rams or the jags unless otherwise.

                    [/quote]

                    Oh so you are saying for our "community draft" here on the boards we are trading out of the round?

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                    • #25
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                      [quote user="GGTM_1977"][quote user="rainierjef"]


                      Stephen Hill is an interesting choice. i would love that pick but i don't see him going past one of the Pats picks / or in the top 20.




                      I Think out of your list Barron might be the one there at 32.




                      but GGTM my man.. it looks like were trading out of the 1st its majority right now and we only got a couple hours till close out of the First, Unless i can talk you into going with Fleener lol




                      i think its down to




                      The rams or the jags unless otherwise.




                      [/quote] Oh so you are saying for our "community draft" here on the boards we are trading out of the round?[/quote]




                      well this is how it looks right now as far as the community selection goes




                      got one vote for Fleener @ 32 : Me




                      2 For Stephen Hill @ 32 : you and Blu




                      2 for trading out of the First with the Rams well i don't know i think i talked Enigma into the looking outside of the rams,
                      i said miami he said jags which is a better deal. : TheEnigma,nycsportzfan




                      (Trading picks)




                      Hey Enigma are you willing to trade with the Rams or Jags?




                      Nycsportzfan choose the rams





                      *kruunch is the tie braker here he has Mark Barron & Stephen Hill as his picks @32. if he choose Stephen Hill, then




                      Our First round pick will be stephen Hill




                      if hechooses Mark Barron then either him or I would be the tie breaker in that decision




                      I already said if the majority rule is trading out then i'm fine with it and i choose the Jags to trade with for their 2nd 4th and 5th




                      Trading with the rams looks like their 2nd and the early 4th thats a Late 3rd.




                      got 2 more hours till end of first round. i don't know what we would do if the decisons are split like this.


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                      • #26
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                        Round One has Officially Timed out.




                        Since Kruunch has selected Stephen Hill / Mark Barron as his BPA @ 32 picks. and GGTM_1977& Blu also choose Stephen Hill .




                        thats a 3 over 2 majority of Hill over trading down into the 2nd round, versus my one pick of Fleener which never stood a chance.




                        Our 1st Round Mock Selection Pick is Stephen Hill WR Georgia Tech.




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                        Giants have the 63rd Pick in Round 2




                        Same format as the first




                        1. 3 propects that will be there at our pick of 63 in the 2nd.




                        2. 1 prospect that you see dropping in that round to our spot ( if you can give an explanation of why you feel they drop nothing long just a quick summary)




                        3. positions of need in order of most important to least




                        example mineswould beRB/ OL / LB




                        4. then out of the 3 prospects and the one dropped prospect your pick for this round.




                        * If you want to trade out of the round then state that and who your willing to trade with and what picks will be traded. no need to add who you would choose in the 3rd were going round by round.


                        Remember This is NOT! what we think the giants will do in the Draft. this is meant for how we as individuals; Fans in a decision making position would debate and collectively agree on the outcome of the Draft as we see it. No idea is a stupid one feel free to throw anything out there.




                        *Round 2 closes outSaturday March 24th at 9:30PM ET/8:30PM CT/3:30PM Pacific get your ideas in before then.
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                        • #27
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                          [quote user="rainierjef"]

                          Round One has Officially Timed out.




                          Since Kruunch has selected Stephen Hill / Mark Barron as his BPA @ 32 picks. and GGTM_1977*& Blu* also choose Stephen Hill .




                          thats a 3 over 2 majority of Hill over trading down into the 2nd round, versus my one pick of Fleener which never stood a chance.




                          Our 1st Round Mock Selection Pick is Stephen Hill WR Georgia Tech.




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                          Giants have the 64th Pick in Round 2




                          Same format as the first




                          1. 3 propects that will be there at our pick of 64 in the 2nd.




                          2. 1 prospect that you see dropping in that round to our spot ( if you can give an explanation of why you feel they drop nothing long just a quick summary)




                          3. positions of need in order of most important to least




                          *** example mines*would be*RB/ OL / LB




                          4. then out of the 3 prospects and the one dropped prospect your pick for this round.




                          * If you want to trade out of the round then state that and who your willing to trade with and what picks will be traded. no need to add who you would choose in the 3rd were going round by round.


                          Remember This is NOT! what we think the giants will do in the Draft. this is meant for how we as individuals; Fans in a decision making position would debate and collectively agree on the outcome of the Draft as we see it. No idea is a stupid one feel free to throw anything out there.



                          *


                          *Round 2 closes out*Saturday* March 24th at 9:30PM ET/8:30PM CT/3:30PM Pacific get your ideas in before then.
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                          [/quote]

                          Dude this is kinda fun......I love how you post the deadline in bold at the end of the posts.......feels so official.....

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                          • #28
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                            Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech

                            6'4", 215lbs, 33 3/8" Arm Length, 9 3/8" Hands

                            40 YD Dash: 4.36 Sec

                            Bench Press: 14

                            Vertical: 39.5 Inch

                            Broad: 133.0 Inch

                            3 Cone: 6.88 Sec

                            20 YD Shuttle: 4.48 Sec

                            60 TD Shuttle: 11.43 Sec

                            Overview:Hill is an early-entry junior receiver out of Georgia Tech who started consistently for the past two years and was the sole deep threat in a run-first offense. He has great length and an outstanding catch radius, which along with his speed makes him a serious deep-threat option in the NFL. He has a thin frame and will be hurt by the fact that he ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech, and teams won't be able to utilize him for much more than go routes at this point in his career. He is a splash player who was No. 1 in the nation in yards per catch; he has fourth-round value based off his all-around body of work but could impress a team with his size and speed enough to ascend significantly throughout the pre-draft process. If the rest of his game can catch up to the ability he shows in the deep passing game, Hill could be the sleeper of this year's draft.

                            Enigma's thoughts: Even though he's very inexperienced with his route tree, this team has plenty of depth so that he doesn't have to be rushed onto the field the 1st game of the season. He's a great run blocker, has elite speed for the position, and great height that he can use to his advantage against cornerbacks. This also gives us a little more leverage when we have to deal with the contracts of Nicks and Cruz in the future.

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                            • #29
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                              Also, it's now the 63rd pick since the Saints lost their 2nd.

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                              • #30
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                                [quote user="TheEnigma"]Also, it's now the 63rd pick since the Saints lost their 2nd.[/quote]

                                Lmao word makes it more interesting im doing my due diligence now on this next round

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