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  • #16
    Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

    [quote user="CGYgiant"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="rainierjef"]i don't want any receivers in the 1st round go TE and then go WR in the later rounds you can get Mcnutt or Streeter both in the 4th. both above 6-3 and run low 4.4s both projected to play the Z spot and that's what we need
    [/quote]




    I don't mean to be cliche, but I doubt our FO is thinking any specific position at 32. It will definately be BPA (except QB and WR).




    We just don't have any glaring weaknesses. If we did, we wouldn't be picking at 32.







    [/quote]

    OT is a huge weakness, we have virtually no depth with Kmac departing.. not to mention the guys we have couldn't pass or run block at all last year.

    Also, you feel comfortable with our depth behind Cruz and Nicks? I don't think the Giants FO is, or else they wouldn't bring so interested in Sanu and Randle.
    [/quote]




    One thing I think we've learned about our otganization is that they believe in developing players and being patient doing so. I think they beleive that JJ is the next guy up at the #3. Don't forget we also signed Hixon. Will we draft a WR at some point in the draft to keep the pipeline full?Maybe. But probably in later rounds.




    The real point is that we have probably the most dynamic duo of WR's in the NFL. (Maybe GB is close). Its not a position of need at all. Other than QB it may be the most significant point of strength. That can obviosly change if we have some serious injuries there but thats true of any position on the field.

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    • #17
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      Honestly.......I would be happy with either Hill or Sanu in the early rounds. I don't feel like OT is a BPA type of pick at #32.......and I don't think we do TE, since we signed Bennett. And our WR depth is questionable....Hixon (coming back from 2nd ACL injury), Barden (always injured, hasn't flashed at all), JJ (rookie basically.....and struggled last year with KR duties at times). To say we wouldn't go WR in the early rounds is silly, yes our oline needs help, but we need quality depth at WR also.....

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      • #18
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        [quote user="GGTM_1977"]Honestly.......I would be happy with either Hill or Sanu in the early rounds. I don't feel like OT is a BPA type of pick at #32.......and I don't think we do TE, since we signed Bennett. And our WR depth is questionable....Hixon (coming back from 2nd ACL injury), Barden (always injured, hasn't flashed at all), JJ (rookie basically.....and struggled last year with KR duties at times). To say we wouldn't go WR in the early rounds is silly, yes our oline needs help, but we need quality depth at WR also.....[/quote]




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        • #19
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          [quote user="Morehead State"]

          [quote user="GGTM_1977"]Honestly.......I would be happy with either Hill or Sanu in the early rounds. I don't feel like OT is a BPA type of pick at #32.......and I don't think we do TE, since we signed Bennett. And our WR depth is questionable....Hixon (coming back from 2nd ACL injury), Barden (always injured, hasn't flashed at all), JJ (rookie basically.....and struggled last year with KR duties at times). To say we wouldn't go WR in the early rounds is silly, yes our oline needs help, but we need quality depth at WR also.....[/quote]




          Being silly is the least of my problems.

          [/quote]

          Do I really think we go WR in the 1st round......no probably won't happen. I know its a pipe dream to think we do. Would I love Stephen Hill at 32...heck ya. We will most likely go defense at pick 32. If you look at the last 4-5 drafts, JR goes defense BPA vs going an offensive player.......But I think we could really benefit from a deep threat type of WR on our offense with Cruz/Nicks.

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          • #20
            Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

            [quote user="GMENAGAIN"]

            [quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="titwio"][quote user="Kruunch"]The only receiver in that list who is a possibility to be around when we pick is Stephen Hill. And I don't want him and his career 49 receptions.[/quote] I think Kendall Wright might drop as well but, Blackmon and Floyd = not a chance in h... at 32.[/quote] The first burner in the draft going at #32? I don't see that remotely happening (although if it did I'd take him in a heartbeat).[/quote]




            Wright is a burner?* Hmmm

            [/quote]

            That's what he's being touted as although I doubt anyone is going to confuse him with DJax or Wallace.
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            • #21
              Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

              [quote user="CGYgiant"][quote user="Morehead State"]

              [quote user="rainierjef"]i don't want any receivers in the 1st round go TE and then go WR in the later rounds you can get Mcnutt or Streeter both in the 4th. both above 6-3 and run low 4.4s both projected to play the Z spot and that's what we need
              [/quote]




              I don't mean to be cliche, but I doubt our FO is thinking any specific position at 32.* It will definately be BPA (except QB and WR).




              We just don't have any glaring weaknesses.* If we did, we wouldn't be picking at 32.




              *

              [/quote]

              OT is a huge weakness, we have virtually no depth with Kmac departing.. not to mention the guys we have couldn't pass or run block at all last year.

              Also, you feel comfortable with our depth behind Cruz and Nicks? I don't think the Giants FO is, or else they wouldn't bring so interested in Sanu and Randle.
              [/quote]

              Our RT situation looks like this before the draft:

              Diehl (starter), Brewer, Andrews/Ugoh


              LT looks like:

              Beatty (starter), Brewer, Andrews/Ugoh

              OT isn't quite as imperative as people are making out and if you can't hit a home run with the first two rounds you shouldn't press. I don't think people consider Mike Adams as a home run at this point.

              As for depth at WR ... I think the Giants are very happy with JJ, Hixon and Barden competing for the #3 spot. That's not to say we don't go after a WR in this draft but I don't think in the first round (thinking Sanu in the second tops).

              (I don't think Randle is around with our first pick)

              This is what I think our first round choices will be (in order of preference):

              Mark Barron (SS)
              Kendal Reyes (DT)
              Coby Fleener (TE)
              Doug Martin (RB)
              Stephen Hill (WR)
              Mike Adams (OT)

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              • #22
                Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

                [quote user="rainierjef"]i don't want any receivers in the 1st round go TE and then go WR in the later rounds you can get Mcnutt or Streeter both in the 4th. both above 6-3 and run low 4.4s both projected to play the Z spot and that's what we need
                [/quote]What makes you say that? I think they both project as X receivers at the next level. They are both big and fast, and would specialize in running longer routes, not short ins, outs, crossing etc.
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                • #23
                  Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

                  why are you all so sold on bennett?!?!?
                  "we signed bennett so we don't need a TE for the next ten years."
                  Ok sorry but that was a little frustration, this guy has shown Nothing
                  has done nothing
                  in a two TE system has flashed what once or twice in what? 4 years?
                  with Witten taking most of the double coverages at times he has taken advantage of nothing
                  show me a highlight of this guy i want to see game tape; cause there's something you guys see that i don't and i just want to be on the same page with everyone so i can wear my hoodie and drink the last kool-aid too.

                  Ballad/Beckum - out till mid season
                  Hopkins - practice squad player nothing to write home about no matter who's high on him
                  Pascoe - TE/FB had a couple of good plays but that hardly warrants the starting full time TE consideration
                  Bennett - please show me what this guy has done please, everything i read even when i try to find the positives " Lazy, unmotivated, gives up , un-focused, not a good route runner." the only positives i find is "excellent blocker, talented." that doesn't do much for me honestly.

                  im sorry bout the rant but i've been trying to keep fans grounded since the signing of bennett, can he be good i hope so i really do. but to say we don't need a TE is ridiculous just crazy.
                  If Fleener is there at 32 i really hope reese takes him Eli will shoe you wonders with a good TE, look at what hes done with the likes of Boss / Ballard. give him fleener and that forces the safeties to pick their poision, keeps the line backers honest so their not stacking the box. we haven't had a legitimate threat at TE in how long now. i think its time Eli is playing phenomenal, give him weapons smfh ffs

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                  • #24
                    Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

                    [quote user="gmen0820"][quote user="rainierjef"]i don't want any receivers in the 1st round go TE and then go WR in the later rounds you can get Mcnutt or Streeter both in the 4th. both above 6-3 and run low 4.4s both projected to play the Z spot and that's what we need
                    [/quote]What makes you say that? I think they both project as X receivers at the next level. They are both big and fast, and would specialize in running longer routes, not short ins, outs, crossing etc.[/quote] they can play that too i got my X and Z mixed up i meant to say X good catch

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                    • #25
                      Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

                      [quote user="rainierjef"][quote user="gmen0820"][quote user="rainierjef"]i don't want any receivers in the 1st round go TE and then go WR in the later rounds you can get Mcnutt or Streeter both in the 4th. both above 6-3 and run low 4.4s both projected to play the Z spot and that's what we need
                      [/quote]What makes you say that? I think they both project as X receivers at the next level. They are both big and fast, and would specialize in running longer routes, not short ins, outs, crossing etc.[/quote] they can play that too but we already have our X
                      [/quote]That aside, just from a projection standpoint, I don't see why they project as a Z for you.

                      Big guys, great speed, tailor made for the X. Same with Stephen Hill.
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                      • #26
                        Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

                        [quote user="Morehead State"]

                        [quote user="rainierjef"]i don't want any receivers in the 1st round go TE and then go WR in the later rounds you can get Mcnutt or Streeter both in the 4th. both above 6-3 and run low 4.4s both projected to play the Z spot and that's what we need
                        [/quote]




                        I don't mean to be cliche, but I doubt our FO is thinking any specific position at 32.* It will definately be BPA (except QB and WR).




                        We just don't have any glaring weaknesses.* If we did, we wouldn't be picking at 32.




                        *

                        [/quote] I slightly disagree.....a legit 3rd WR is a must after the season cruz/nicks had......teams are going to game plan around them in 2012.....TE,were going into the season with one,whom has been seen as a bust his career....Oline,no changes...can't Realy get better by not adding anyone & losing our RT....RB,lost Jacobs.......MLB, who's our starting MLB? We don't have one.......quite a few glaring needs

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                        • #27
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                          I know everyone's counting on Jernigan but is anyone even optimistic about him being our #3? the guy didn't impress me at all last year. I think were better off getting a WR in the first 3 rounds and starting him. Jernigan? Barden? Gimme a break

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                          • #28
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                            [quote user="KennyPhilips1"]I know everyone's counting on Jernigan but is anyone even optimistic about him being our #3? the guy didn't impress me at all last year. I think were better off getting a WR in the first 3 rounds and starting him. Jernigan? Barden? Gimme a break[/quote]




                            Thats how we do things here.




                            I know its been said but did anyone see 1500 yards from Cruz this season. he hadn't caught a pass in the NFL until week 2 this past season.




                            Amani Toomer caught one pass in his rookie year. he turned out OK.




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                            • #29
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                              Let the record show, Morehead and I agree on a particular topic.




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                              • #30
                                Re: 1st round WRs that could be ours...........

                                [quote user="Morehead State"]

                                [quote user="KennyPhilips1"]I know everyone's counting on Jernigan but is anyone even optimistic about him being our #3? the guy didn't impress me at all last year. I think were better off getting a WR in the first 3 rounds and starting him. Jernigan? Barden? Gimme a break[/quote]




                                Thats how we do things here.




                                I know its been said but did anyone see 1500 yards from Cruz this season.* he hadn't caught a pass in the NFL until week 2 this past season.




                                Amani Toomer caught one pass in his rookie year.* he turned out OK.




                                *

                                [/quote]
                                But cruz flashed all that preseason when has jerrnigan ever flashed? Im not saying hes bad but cruz's success is a bad.measure to use for this situation not everyone is a diamond in the rough just cause we drafted them. #sinoricemoss

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