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  • #16
    Re: Lavonte David

    I've been a big fan of lavonte david's for months now

    The reason why he doesn't get a lot of talk on here is because people here believe the giants don't need an OLB, because obviously david isn't an ILB. Yet somehow so many people are convinced the giants "need" an OT

    But I honestly believe if he's the BPA and makes it to 64 (As undersized players tend to fall), the giants will pick him. David has the rare combination of instincts + athleticism that you see in all the great linebackers in our league and in nfl history. Just doesn't have the bulk to be considered a 1st round prospect, unfortunately (despite the fact that he is usually excellent at disengaging/slipping blockers and isnt any worse than kuechly in that area)

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    • #17
      Re: Lavonte David

      [quote user="XxBigWhitxX"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="XxBigWhitxX"]Why don't more people talk about this kid!? I've been watching tape and the guy is a phenomenal Athlete at Linebacker. The only problem is that he's a little light but the guy is rocked up.[/quote]Not sure where you've been but Lavonte David has gotten plenty of talk in these draft threads. I like this guy a lot and think he could/should be drawing interest from the Giants. I don't see hardly any holes in his game. I think the main knock on him is his size and where does he play on the field. I know he's a projected weakside LB, but I think he could convert over and play safety at the next level.
      [/quote]he has the size/ speed to play the linebacker pseudo-safety-role that Fewell loves[/quote]

      The thing that impresses me most about David is the leverage and instincts he shows in coverage. Stays low and plays with great route recognition. Great speed as well. He covered those Iowa spread receivers very well.

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      • #18
        Re: Lavonte David

        He's one of my favorite players in this year's draft. TOUGH, fast kid, vicious tackler, good in coverage. Reminds me of London Fletcher.

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        • #19
          Re: Lavonte David

          He's one of my favorite players in this year's draft. TOUGH, fast kid,
          vicious tackler, good in coverage. Reminds me of London Fletcher.

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          • #20
            Re: Lavonte David

            I read in some website can't remember where that the Giants may move Boley inside to MLB then this guy could come in and start at WOLB but I'm not sure if I would be happy with Boley at MLB

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            • #21
              Re: Lavonte David



              NFL scouts aren't sure whether to play him at linebacker or strong
              safety. But somebody will draft him, put him on the field somewhere and
              he will do what he has always done -- tackle people. He worked hard to
              get this far, so being told he is too small won't phase him.


              He has pass coverage and ball reaction
              instincts to be an excellent nickel linebacker.

              Tough player with excellent instincts and quick reaction time,
              involves himself in many run and pass plays all over the field.
              Occasionally guesses, flying into holes instead of finding the ball then
              attacking it and leaving his area open to receivers and running lanes.




              Run defense: Plays mostly in the box, flies through creases to
              wrap up the legs of backs trying to find a hole or attempting to get to
              the sideline. Despite his lack of size, attacks oncoming linemen with a
              punch or stiff-arm into their chest and makes tackles in the box with
              blockers on his back. Gives and gets the worst of collisions inside.




              Pass defense: Strong in coverage, often used as the only
              linebacker on the field against spread defenses. Possesses the quickness
              to stay with running backs on wheel routes or trail across the middle.
              Stays with underneath routes while in zone, able to break up passes in
              front of receivers with front hand without interfering. Gives up size to
              most NFL-caliber tight ends and better backs separate during routes
              with length and strength. Bites on aggressive arrow routes, loses his
              balance when trying to change directions at times.


              Tackling: Hustling chase tackler who hits the thighs and wraps up
              legs very effectively. Tries to strip the ball when tackle is secured,
              has good success even against tight ends. Bigger ballcarriers can
              stiff-arm him in the open field because of his lack of size and length,
              but it does not happen too often

              from cbssports.com
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              • #22
                Re: Lavonte David

                He has enormous tackle production throughout his two years
                at Nebraska, posting over 260 tackles in his short time there. Instincts
                are the key to his game, as he always seems to be in the middle of
                action whether rushing the passer or covering tight ends. Lavonte will
                need to stay off blocks at the next level and either gain strength to
                shed linemen or continue to play instinctually to stay free entirely.
                His athletic ability allows him to play loose and fly around, and he
                should go in the late first round to a team who loves undersized,
                athletic linebackers.






                Analysis




                Strengths

                Lavonte has speed that is evident from the
                second the play starts. He is an instinctive player who is able to read
                offensive lines and trigger to get to the spot he needs to be. He
                understands angles and leveraging himself when taking on blocks, which
                allow him to overcome his size deficiency. His footwork is fluid in
                transition and when moving laterally, he routinely fits up against
                running backs in the hole and stonewalls them at the point. He can
                pursue against the run to the outside and use his instincts to meet
                players where they ultimately will be, and rarely whiffs on tackles. He
                can cover tight ends close in man and works well in zone coverage as he
                has natural, fluid hips to turn and pass set.




                Weaknesses

                David is undersized, and he can struggle at
                times when lineman get their hands on him on run plays. If he is free he
                hits the gap hard, but once engaged he attempts to use his strong hands
                to fight away. He can cover in the long-term against tight ends but can
                also struggle in man against them at the line of scrimmage if they
                overpower him initially. Speed and savvy can often overshadow these size
                and strength hitches in Lavonte's game, but they could be exposed more
                at the next level.

                from nfl.com/combine



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                • #23
                  Re: Lavonte David

                  [quote user="Neverend"]I've been a big fan of lavonte david's for months now

                  The reason why he doesn't get a lot of talk on here is because people here believe the giants don't need an OLB, because obviously david isn't an ILB. Yet somehow so many people are convinced the giants "need" an OT

                  But I honestly believe if he's the BPA and makes it to 64 (As undersized players tend to fall), the giants will pick him. David has the rare combination of instincts + athleticism that you see in all the great linebackers in our league and in nfl history. Just doesn't have the bulk to be considered a 1st round prospect, unfortunately (despite the fact that he is usually excellent at disengaging/slipping blockers and isnt any worse than kuechly in that area)[/quote]

                  The biggest problem with Lavonte David is we don't have a place for him. He's a little too small for a SAM or MLB and tends to get engulfed by blockers when he's played at those spots.

                  His best work is at the WILL position (which he is excellent at) and we already have Boley and JWIll at that spot.

                  Not a whole lot of room on his frame to gain weight either. He's listed as 6'1, 233 but he's more like 6'0 225 (6'0.5 I believe is his actual).

                  I could very easily see this guy as being the Eagles' second round pick unfortunately. He's the exact type of LBer they like.
                  I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                  • #24
                    Re: Lavonte David

                    [quote user="michaelkhan3"]I read in some website can't remember where that the Giants may move Boley inside to MLB then this guy could come in and start at WOLB but I'm not sure if I would be happy with Boley at MLB
                    [/quote]

                    Start over JWill?
                    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                    • #25
                      Re: Lavonte David

                      [quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="Neverend"]I've been a big fan of lavonte david's for months now

                      The reason why he doesn't get a lot of talk on here is because people here believe the giants don't need an OLB, because obviously david isn't an ILB. Yet somehow so many people are convinced the giants "need" an OT

                      But I honestly believe if he's the BPA and makes it to 64 (As undersized players tend to fall), the giants will pick him. David has the rare combination of instincts + athleticism that you see in all the great linebackers in our league and in nfl history. Just doesn't have the bulk to be considered a 1st round prospect, unfortunately (despite the fact that he is usually excellent at disengaging/slipping blockers and isnt any worse than kuechly in that area)[/quote]

                      The biggest problem with Lavonte David is we don't have a place for him. He's a little too small for a SAM or MLB and tends to get engulfed by blockers when he's played at those spots.

                      His best work is at the WILL position (which he is excellent at) and we already have Boley and JWIll at that spot.

                      Not a whole lot of room on his frame to gain weight either. He's listed as 6'1, 233 but he's more like 6'0 225 (6'0.5 I believe is his actual).

                      I could very easily see this guy as being the Eagles' second round pick unfortunately. He's the exact type of LBer they like.[/quote]MAybe as the 3rd safety taking over for Deion Grant??
                      Come check the G-Fambulance and The Scarf Soldiers every home game in Lot L6, and like us on facebook and instagam 'NYG Scarf Soldiers'

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                      • #26
                        Re: Lavonte David

                        [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="Neverend"]I've been a big fan of lavonte david's for months now

                        The reason why he doesn't get a lot of talk on here is because people here believe the giants don't need an OLB, because obviously david isn't an ILB. Yet somehow so many people are convinced the giants "need" an OT

                        But I honestly believe if he's the BPA and makes it to 64 (As undersized players tend to fall), the giants will pick him. David has the rare combination of instincts + athleticism that you see in all the great linebackers in our league and in nfl history. Just doesn't have the bulk to be considered a 1st round prospect, unfortunately (despite the fact that he is usually excellent at disengaging/slipping blockers and isnt any worse than kuechly in that area)[/quote]

                        The biggest problem with Lavonte David is we don't have a place for him. He's a little too small for a SAM or MLB and tends to get engulfed by blockers when he's played at those spots.

                        His best work is at the WILL position (which he is excellent at) and we already have Boley and JWIll at that spot.

                        Not a whole lot of room on his frame to gain weight either. He's listed as 6'1, 233 but he's more like 6'0 225 (6'0.5 I believe is his actual).

                        I could very easily see this guy as being the Eagles' second round pick unfortunately. He's the exact type of LBer they like.[/quote]MAybe as the 3rd safety taking over for Deion Grant??
                        [/quote]

                        A Nickel package with 3 LBers in a 4-3 C2 scheme is called a base defense hehe.

                        He's good in coverage but not THAT good.
                        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                        • #27
                          Re: Lavonte David

                          Sideline to sideline range, kind of small -- but physical. I like Mychal Kendricks more though, he can play inside and we can just keep Boley outside.
                          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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