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  • #16
    Re: Dequan Menzie

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="lawl"]For some reason I thought he was like 6'1"[/quote] Your probably thinking about Mark Barron, whos 6ft 1in...[/quote]He could of been listed at that before the combine measurements.

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    • #17
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      [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Corners of his size? Hes just about 5ft 11in and over 200lbs... [/quote] Giants are a very strict height/weight/speed team. Menzie has good size, but is not a speed guy. Thomas is the slowest CB Ive seen them draft, and he ran a 4.45. Menzie ran a 4.75....[/quote] So, u don't think there gonna be interested in Leonard Johnson either then? I remember u guys saying we only like CBS with certain size, but yet we re-signed both Bruce Johnson and Justin Tryon..I think Menzie and Leonard Johnson both fall right into the category that Reese likes... I don't think Reese goes only one way on any positon, it just seems that way.. It just goes that way sometimes, and overtime, i'm all most positive you'll see guys of all diffrent shapes and sizes and speeds get drafted.. Just because over a few yr stretch, we've drafted 4or 5 cb's, and signed a couple more, there mostly all 6fters and what not, then thats all we draft or sign...




      Thats my opinion anyways...

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      • #18
        Re: Dequan Menzie

        [quote user="nycsportzfan"]

        [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Corners of his size? Hes just about 5ft 11in and over 200lbs...* [/quote] Giants are a very strict height/weight/speed team. Menzie has good size, but is not a speed guy. Thomas is the slowest CB Ive seen them draft, and he ran a 4.45. Menzie ran a 4.75....[/quote]** So, u don't think there gonna be interested in Leonard Johnson either then?* I remember u guys saying we only like CBS with certain size, but yet we re-signed both Bruce Johnson and Justin Tryon..**I think Menzie and Leonard Johnson both fall right into the category that Reese likes...* I don't think Reese goes only one way on any positon, it just seems that way..* It just goes that way sometimes, and overtime, i'm all most positive you'll see guys of all diffrent shapes and sizes and speeds get drafted..* Just because over a* few yr stretch, we've drafted 4or 5 cb's, and signed a couple more, there mostly all 6fters and what not, then thats all we draft or sign...




        Thats my opinion anyways...

        [/quote]Giants have the tallest Defense in the NFL its not an accident.They look for taller players for the base defense. They do need smaller quicker guys for specific match ups though

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        • #19
          Re: Dequan Menzie

          Marvin Austin is only 6'1 and has 32 inch arms.

          Not terrible, obviously, but I'm getting tired of the over generalizations people make about the giants not drafting a prospect b/ of size/speed/strength factor. Maybe they value them less, but dont think they'll just remove a corner off their board because he's about a half inch less in height than what they value in corners

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          • #20
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            [quote user="Neverend"]Marvin Austin is only 6'1 and has 32 inch arms.

            Not terrible, obviously, but I'm getting tired of the over generalizations people make about the giants not drafting a prospect b/ of size/speed/strength factor. Maybe they value them less, but dont think they'll just remove a corner off their board because he's about a half inch less in height than what they value in corners[/quote]Not removed but its obvious they like height specifically in their defenders

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            • #21
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              There was a quote from Fewell when Tryon got hurt saying that Tryon didnt have the size that they typically like, but he still played well.




              Size is absolutely factored in.

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              • #22
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                Menzie isnt the athlete he was prior to his Achillies tear.

                Its too bad because he once had a bright future. But, his injury was pretty severe. He will likely not get his sped back and without it, he isnt an NFL corner. Luckily for him he is a heady player too who might just work out well at the safety position.
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                • #23
                  Re: Dequan Menzie

                  [quote user="Neverend"]Marvin Austin is only 6'1 and has 32 inch arms.

                  Not terrible, obviously, but I'm getting tired of the over generalizations people make about the giants not drafting a prospect b/ of size/speed/strength factor. Maybe they value them less, but dont think they'll just remove a corner off their board because he's about a half inch less in height than what they value in corners[/quote]In this particular case he was talking about Menzies lack of speed

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                  • #24
                    Re: Dequan Menzie

                    I was under the impression he was 5'10, but I was always aware he was slower.
                    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Dequan Menzie

                      [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="Neverend"]Marvin Austin is only 6'1 and has 32 inch arms.

                      Not terrible, obviously, but I'm getting tired of the over generalizations people make about the giants not drafting a prospect b/ of size/speed/strength factor. Maybe they value them less, but dont think they'll just remove a corner off their board because he's about a half inch less in height than what they value in corners[/quote]In this particular case he was talking about Menzies lack of speed[/quote]

                      Ah, I stand corrected

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                      • #26
                        Re: Dequan Menzie

                        He is like 5'11 202lbs that's perfect size for a CB in this team or any other team for that matter

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                        • #27
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                          One of my favorite players in the draft. If you watch Alabama's defense you will see how good the guy is. I think he was a better football player than Dre Kirkpatrick even though Kirkpatrick is a better prospect in the NFL.

                          Menzie can do everything well. his biggest weakness is his lack of speed but he could still be a very good nickel CB in the NFL or possibly a safety. I thought he could do well in the Deon Grant role but I'm not sure how well he will hold up against the run when he gets blocked by NFL caliber OL (a concern for any CB).

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                          • #28
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                            [quote user="lawl"]For some reason I thought he was like 6'1"[/quote]

                            He was listed at 6'0 by Alabama

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                            • #29
                              Re: Dequan Menzie

                              As already mentioned, Menzie is going to be a hell of a catch in this draft. He is a great tackler, great against the run and has great cover skills. Whoever made a comment about his injury doesn't know what he's talking about. He came in after his injury and instead of the expected redshirt, he was already playing significant time and looked like the best CB on Alabama's team (which means he's also extremely smart). His next year he beat out a 5 star that had previously been starting. Saban has praised him constantly and used him as an example of why the 40 is misleading, saying that he never saw Menzie get beat one time because of speed. He's a baller and I would be THRILLED to see him on our team.

                              As for why he was was projected as a safety. I'm sure his 40 time had something to do with it, but I'd guess it had more to do with his build. Dude is THICK and I don't mean fat. Everytime I have watched Alabama play, he has stood out to me.

                              As for when he'll go. I think every mock draft I have done I have put him to the Giants in the 4th round.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Dequan Menzie

                                [quote user="michaelkhan3"][quote user="lawl"]For some reason I thought he was like 6'1"[/quote]

                                He was listed at 6'0 by Alabama
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                                I think Alabama lets their players stand on their tippy toes when they get measured... or something. They're always way off.

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