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    GIANTS' DRAFT: WHAT TO WATCH FOR

    "Draft day is finally here. Soon the unpredictable will happen and the draft
    madness will begin tonight.

    Itís hard to say what will happen by the
    time the Giants pick at 32 late tonight but hereís three things to potentially
    look for:

    1. #32: The Giants would probably be thrilled
    if someone like North Carolina DE Quinton Coples, Syracuse DE
    Chandler Jones, Illinois DE Whitney Mercilus,
    Alabama CB Dre Kirkpatrick and Alabama LB Dontía
    Hightower
    were to fall to 32. Same for Georgia Tech WR Stephen
    Hill
    . All those guys are on the Giantsí wish list.

    But all
    those guys, based on many projections, are not expected to be there when the
    Giants are on the clock. My guess is if all those guys are gone, the Giants
    could tab LSU WR Rueben Randle. Indications are the Giants are
    looking at wide receiver if the players mentioned earlier above are not
    available. Randle is a player the Giants have discussed.

    Randle was my
    first pick in my
    seven-round mock draft
    which, again, is like throwing darts while
    blindfolded. In doing that mock, I didn't pick based on guys I think the Giants
    should take. I tried to draft based on what I think the Giants might take. And
    so many times, there would be a player I wanted to give to the Giants but I
    often kept thinking that player wouldn't be there when the Giants selected late
    in each round. So I tried to pick based on that. Could I have picked guys I
    personally wanted for them in each round? Yes. But I tried to project who was
    going to go ahead of them in each round. Itís impossible to know though.


    Personally, I wouldnít mind seeing the Giants take a running back,
    offensive lineman and wide receiver somewhere in the first four rounds. I'd love
    to see a Boise State RB Doug Martin or Stanford TE Coby
    Fleener
    to the Giants in the first round. But I also know the Giants
    donít always draft for need.

    That's why in the Sports Center mock draft
    I did with other writers around the country on Wednesday, I picked Clemson DE
    Andre Branch with Coples, Jones, Mercilus, Kirkpatrick,
    Hightower, Hill and Randle all off the board already. If it had been my pick on
    what I would have wanted, I would have gone with Martin, Fleener or Michigan
    State DT Jerel Worthy based on what was available at the time.


    2. THE NEEDS: Jerry Reese always says
    he will go for the best player available. But the Giants could use a running
    back to replace Brandon Jacobs, an offensive lineman (free
    agent right tackle Kareem McKenzie isnít expected back) to get
    younger and more athletic on the line, a wide receiver to help replace
    Mario Manningham and a defensive end for depth and down the
    road with so
    much uncertainty surrounding Osi Umenyiora
    . By the way, my
    guess is Umenyiora remains a Giant after the draft. Just my guess.

    Tight
    end, defensive back for depth and future and a returner are also on my wish list
    for the Super Bowl champs.

    Reese always keeps an eye toward the future
    and his salary cap situation so keep that in mind when he makes picks this
    weekend.

    3. PASSING ON TIGHT END FIRST: All indications
    Iíve gotten are that the Giants likely will not take a tight end in the first
    round. A popular pick for the Giants by many is Fleener. He certainly would seem
    to provide Eli Manning with a fine receiving target and Fleener
    said on Wednesday that he had been in touch with tight ends coach Mike
    Pope
    but nothing recently.

    Iíve also heard that the Giants are
    likely to pass on a running back at 32 either. Personally, Martin intrigues me
    and the idea of having a running back who has drawn some comparisons to
    Ray Rice
    in the Giants offense appeals to me. But Reese and the Giants
    are some of the best drafters in the league so weíll see if and where they go
    for a running back in this draft.
    ďNever argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.Ē MB Rule # 1

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    Re: GIANTS' DRAFT: WHAT TO WATCH FOR

    Will our pick come around midnight?

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      i see the draft mockery-ers having Fleener go to us ... to me to draft a TE in the 1st round they would have to be like a Vernon Davis type talent




      it's going to be fun to watch and i hope we don't get influenced by Osi making noise




      Osi realizes that draft day is an opportunity for him to get moved, so he is huffing and puffing, but we still hold all the cards

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      • #4
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        [quote user="JimC"]Will our pick come around midnight?
        [/quote]

        It's kinda like Christmas when you're a little kid. You go to bed all excited and then you wake up to something new and you're either super excited or painfully disappointed.

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          [quote user="JimC"]Will our pick come around midnight?
          [/quote]
          Since the draft starts at 8...I would imagine us to pick sometime around 11 at the absolute latest

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            [quote user="egyptian420"][quote user="JimC"]Will our pick come around midnight?
            [/quote]
            Since the draft starts at 8...I would imagine us to pick sometime around 11 at the absolute latest
            [/quote]

            i wish...im thinking after 12...4 hrs and 47 min is how long i think the 1rst round takes...

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              [quote user="giantsfan420"][quote user="egyptian420"][quote user="JimC"]Will our pick come around midnight?
              [/quote]
              Since the draft starts at 8...I would imagine us to pick sometime around 11 at the absolute latest
              [/quote]

              i wish...im thinking after 12...4 hrs and 47 min is how long i think the 1rst round takes...[/quote]

              31 teams in front of us at 10 minutes each gives you slightly over 5 hours. Some teams wont use all of the time so 4 hrs and 47 minutes seems like a good guess.

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                Maybe it is me but I do not see the need to draft a WR in round 1 no matter what his value is. As long as you keep Nicks and Cruz you would draft a player who would be your 3rd WR. Is that really what you want from a 1st round pick?

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                  [quote user="nygsb42champs"]Maybe it is me but I do not see the need to draft a WR in round 1 no matter what his value is. As long as you keep Nicks and Cruz you would draft a player who would be your 3rd WR. Is that really what you want from a 1st round pick?[/quote]

                  Good point! I believe you are correct no WR, i also believe no RB, no TE and no OL. It WILL be a DE or a DT.

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                    [quote user="nygsb42champs"]Maybe it is me but I do not see the need to draft a WR in round 1 no matter what his value is. As long as you keep Nicks and Cruz you would draft a player who would be your 3rd WR. Is that really what you want from a 1st round pick?[/quote]

                    u do realize the same thing was said when we took JPP...

                    if somehow we cant retain both nicks and cruz we wont be in desperation mode...plus nicks has missed time each season (except for last iirc)

                    and our offense is much more dangerous with 3 legit options instead of 2 and then JJ/Barden (who i still havent given up on)

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                      Hmm. There are going to be dozens of threads made about each selection, aren't there.

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                        [quote user="giantsfan420"][quote user="nygsb42champs"]Maybe it is me but I do not see the need to draft a WR in round 1 no matter what his value is. As long as you keep Nicks and Cruz you would draft a player who would be your 3rd WR. Is that really what you want from a 1st round pick?[/quote] u do realize the same thing was said when we took JPP... if somehow we cant retain both nicks and cruz we wont be in desperation mode...plus nicks has missed time each season (except for last iirc) and our offense is much more dangerous with 3 legit options instead of 2 and then JJ/Barden (who i still havent given up on)[/quote]




                        Given our position and the way the draft may shake out, I would also say that the best value at 32 could very well be D line. I would also not be shocked if we dropped out of the first or traded up (possibly using Osi) if someone we covet falls a tad.




                        In other words, I have no friggin idea except that if we draft at 32, it will most likely be D line.

                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                          [quote user="JimC"]Will our pick come around midnight?[/quote]
                          Probably 11:00~11:30. Either way, I'll probably be asleep. But I'm confident the Giants can make the pick without me, so I'll read about it in the morning.

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                            [quote user="Morehead State"]

                            [quote user="giantsfan420"][quote user="nygsb42champs"]Maybe it is me but I do not see the need to draft a WR in round 1 no matter what his value is. As long as you keep Nicks and Cruz you would draft a player who would be your 3rd WR. Is that really what you want from a 1st round pick?[/quote] u do realize the same thing was said when we took JPP... if somehow we cant retain both nicks and cruz we wont be in desperation mode...plus nicks has missed time each season (except for last iirc) and our offense is much more dangerous with 3 legit options instead of 2 and then JJ/Barden (who i still havent given up on)[/quote]




                            Given our position and the way the draft may shake out, I would also say that the best value at 32 could very well be D line.* I would also not be shocked if we dropped out of the first or traded up (possibly using Osi) if someone we covet falls a tad.




                            In other words,* I have no friggin idea except that if we draft at 32, it will most likely be D line.

                            [/quote]

                            for some reason John Martin seems to be disliked around here. If he falls to 32 i dont think JR will pass on him. By people who actually know what they're doing, he's been mocked to buffalo at 10. Mayock calls him the only elite OL prospect outside of Kalil. I wouldnt be opposed to J.Martin, Vinny Curry, Marcelius Whitney, Kendall Wright, Rueben Randle, Fleener, Nick Perry, Fleener, J.Jenkins (all of these guys will be around after the early 20's imo...Whatever we decide to do I'm on board.

                            I wouldnt want to draft a RB tho, and depending on the WR's taken I'd prob wait until the 2nd for that too. The 2nd round is gonna have a ton of seriously talented potential at WR and RB, so depending on how the draft plays out DE may very well be the best value (although guys like Still, Reyes I'd pass on in the 1rst I do not believe they are 1rst round grade players jmho on those two)

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                              I think the 1st round will be for an OT or OG. We NEED to beef up our offensive line. The run game last year was pitiful. Yes, a lot of it was due to injury on our line and the patchwork construct we had to field in its place, but we need young and healthy at the offensive line in order to stave off further injury and add depth.

                              IF the O-line is beefed up, I don't think we need to select a RB early. RB's can be easily developed from late picks (e.g., Bradshaw), and I think Da'Rel Scott will improve this season with a full offseason under his belt (I have a hunch that he didn't get any carries because in practice TC was working on fixing his fumbleitis as he once did with Tiki).

                              At WR, I think that JJ is also set to have an awesome year, plus the speed with which JR resigned Hixon means that at least one of those two receivers will be set to be our 3rd WR. I'm not worried about WR in the slightest.

                              If it's not on the offensive line, any 1st rounder we have will likely be spent on a D-lineman. Getting depth to replace Osi is important (who, whether he plays for us or not in 2012, IS getting old), plus we could always use a DT as well.

                              Of course, you could just ignore everything I just said and call BPA, that works just fine in our system as well. I'm just saying that our biggest needs are on both offensive and defensive lines.


                              I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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