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    [quote user="Axels15"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Zaggs"]But he was also not a value nor solid pick.
    [/quote] Even going by Mayocks draft board you could argue he was the BPA where they picked. What more value is there than that?[/quote]

    If you go by Mayocks board, there were players ranked higher than Wilson. So he was neither the BPA nor a value pick. In fact if he's 33rd and drafted 32nd you lose a tad bit of value.
    [/quote] I love Mayock, but there's a reason he's not the one drafting the players[/quote]




    There's a reason JR is.

    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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      [quote user="Zaggs"]

      If you go by Mayocks board, there were players ranked higher than Wilson.* So he was neither the BPA nor a value pick.* In fact if he's 33rd and drafted 32nd you lose a tad bit of value.*
      [/quote]

      He had a couple guys rated about the same, only one that was significantly higher was Glenn, who I honestly think the giants did not like at all.

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        [quote user="Zaggs"].* I mean who are the starting tackles?* Locklear and Diehl?* Anyone overly confident in that pairing?
        [/quote]

        You saw a starting OT at 32? I didnt.

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          [quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Zaggs"]But he was also not a value nor solid pick.
          [/quote]

          Even going by Mayocks draft board you could argue he was the BPA where they picked.

          What more value is there than that?[/quote]

          If you go by Mayocks board, there were players ranked higher than Wilson. So he was neither the BPA nor a value pick. In fact if he's 33rd and drafted 32nd you lose a tad bit of value.
          [/quote]

          Mayocks board has no bearing on our team.

          And FYI, on Kiper's board LaMichael James was the 2nd rated RB.

          Reese and company are the only 1nes who's opinion matters.
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            [quote user="GMENAGAIN"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="GMENAGAIN"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


            [quote user="lawl"]Worst thing I've ever seen Reese do.[/quote]




            You've taken "what have you done for me lately" to new levels.* (Or depths)




            Dissapointed in you Lawl.




            [/quote]




            Investing in a top flight rb is a waste.




            I'm shocked Reese would do this.




            [/quote]




            Investing what?* Basically a 2nd round pick and a 4 year 6M contract?




            Who did you want to take there?




            [/quote] A first round pick is a first round pick. Is the 33rd pick basically a first round pick? I don't like this common usage. I fear his second contract More than his first. Any ot,, massie or Martin. Any dl, branch worthy etc. these type players are what Jr usually invests in.




            HIghly valued positions deserve our greatest investments, year in and year out.




            [/quote]




            If he demands a big second contract after 4 years (he'll be 25 or so I guess), wouldn't that mean that he played great for the first 4 years?* I don't get it . . . .

            [/quote]

            Because the difference in potential impact of a late first round back compared to a mid round back is much smaller than that of more important positions, like dl ot and wr.

            Him playing well doesn't matter because his impact isn't as big of a gap when compared to a mid round Guy's impact when compared to other positions.

            Its a percentage play.

            then when he does play good, which I expect him to do. Then our hand will be forced to give him a big contact and then chances are he'll get hurt or fall off the map, this wasting cap space. When all along we couldvw had a mid round Guy producing ok for us and our team would be just as good.

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              [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Zaggs"]. I mean who are the starting tackles? Locklear and Diehl? Anyone overly confident in that pairing?
              [/quote]

              You saw a starting OT at 32? I didnt.[/quote]

              Don't see Glenn being any worse than Beatty.

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                [quote user="Morehead State"]

                [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]33rd ranked Player on Mayock's board: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...P11_hot_topics

                It's not a reach, it was a solid pick.

                I would have loved Upshaw or Cordy Glenn or Jonathan Martin, but Wilson is a good RB, he'll help Eli and Bradshaw.
                [/quote]

                To show the fallacy of this point.* Cordy Glenn was ranked 25th by Mayock, he's still on the board.* Stephen Hill was ranked 32nd.* He's still on the board.* Vinny Curry was ranked 30th (not that we need another D-lineman) and is still available.
                [/quote] There's a reason Mayock is an analyst and not a GM...[/quote]




                there is also a reason we're MB posters and JR IS a GM.




                (Actually a 2 time SB winning GM)

                [/quote]

                Jerry Jones can say that too.

                Previous accolades have no bearing on current performance

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                  [quote user="Zaggs"]
                  Don't see Glenn being any worse than Beatty.*
                  [/quote]

                  So you want to use a first round pick on a guy who "wont be worse"?

                  I really think this whole hate thing stems from a couple people who think Glenn was a great prospect.

                  Glenn scares the heck out of me as a prospect. He cant bend at his knees at all, so he plays high or bends at the waist (which means either no leverage, or eventual back problems), hes big and strong but hes not really a mauler. He is more a catcher with how he uses his hands.

                  Frankly, I think Glenn will have an exceptionally hard time playing RT. Thing he would be easy prey for any NFL pass rusher.

                  And his lack of bend and inherent lack of leverage scares me inside at guard.

                  High high bust potential for Glenn, IMO

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                    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                    [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]33rd ranked Player on Mayock's board: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...P11_hot_topics

                    It's not a reach, it was a solid pick.

                    I would have loved Upshaw or Cordy Glenn or Jonathan Martin, but Wilson is a good RB, he'll help Eli and Bradshaw.
                    [/quote]

                    To show the fallacy of this point. Cordy Glenn was ranked 25th by Mayock, he's still on the board. Stephen Hill was ranked 32nd. He's still on the board. Vinny Curry was ranked 30th (not that we need another D-lineman) and is still available.
                    [/quote] There's a reason Mayock is an analyst and not a GM...[/quote]




                    there is also a reason we're MB posters and JR IS a GM.




                    (Actually a 2 time SB winning GM)




                    [/quote] Jerry Jones can say that too. Previous accolades have no bearing on current performance[/quote]




                    So now you are so dillusional that you are comparing JR to Jerry Jones. The first rule of getting out of a hole Lawl is "stop digging".




                    You're now making a fool out of yourself and it makes me sad.

                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      [quote user="Axels15"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Zaggs"]But he was also not a value nor solid pick.
                      [/quote]

                      Even going by Mayocks draft board you could argue he was the BPA where they picked.

                      What more value is there than that?[/quote]

                      If you go by Mayocks board, there were players ranked higher than Wilson. So he was neither the BPA nor a value pick. In fact if he's 33rd and drafted 32nd you lose a tad bit of value.
                      [/quote]

                      I love Mayock, but there's a reason he's not the one drafting the players[/quote]Like maybe he enjoys his job now better than being a GM. Also, Mayock loved the pick. He just had Wilson as the 33rd player on his board, which means that picking him at 32 isn't a reach.

                      I also find it meaningless that there may have been a few players available that were rated higher on Mayock's board than Wilson as we don't really know how much separated those players.

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                        [quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Zaggs"]. I mean who are the starting tackles? Locklear and Diehl? Anyone overly confident in that pairing?
                        [/quote]

                        You saw a starting OT at 32? I didnt.[/quote]

                        Don't see Glenn being any worse than Beatty.
                        [/quote]
                        So you throw a 1st round pick after a 2nd for "not being any worse?"

                        Makes sense to me.

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                          [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


                          [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]33rd ranked Player on Mayock's board: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...P11_hot_topics

                          It's not a reach, it was a solid pick.

                          I would have loved Upshaw or Cordy Glenn or Jonathan Martin, but Wilson is a good RB, he'll help Eli and Bradshaw.
                          [/quote]

                          To show the fallacy of this point.* Cordy Glenn was ranked 25th by Mayock, he's still on the board.* Stephen Hill was ranked 32nd.* He's still on the board.* Vinny Curry was ranked 30th (not that we need another D-lineman) and is still available.
                          [/quote] There's a reason Mayock is an analyst and not a GM...[/quote]




                          there is also a reason we're MB posters and JR IS a GM.




                          (Actually a 2 time SB winning GM)




                          [/quote] Jerry Jones can say that too. Previous accolades have no bearing on current performance[/quote]




                          So now you are so dillusional that you are comparing JR to Jerry Jones.* The first rule of getting out of a hole Lawl is "stop digging".




                          You're now making a fool out of yourself and it makes me sad.

                          [/quote]

                          I'm not digging a hole. I love Reese, but this was a stupid pick

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                            [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]33rd ranked Player on Mayock's board: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...P11_hot_topics

                            It's not a reach, it was a solid pick.

                            I would have loved Upshaw or Cordy Glenn or Jonathan Martin, but Wilson is a good RB, he'll help Eli and Bradshaw.
                            [/quote]

                            To show the fallacy of this point. Cordy Glenn was ranked 25th by Mayock, he's still on the board. Stephen Hill was ranked 32nd. He's still on the board. Vinny Curry was ranked 30th (not that we need another D-lineman) and is still available.
                            [/quote]
                            There's a reason Mayock is an analyst and not a GM...[/quote]

                            Mike was a very respected scout, and is still respected by many in the game.

                            You don;t think Mayock is an expert?

                            I'm not talking about Kiper for crying out loud.

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                              [quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]

                              [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"][quote user="Zaggs"][quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]33rd ranked Player on Mayock's board: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...P11_hot_topics

                              It's not a reach, it was a solid pick.

                              I would have loved Upshaw or Cordy Glenn or Jonathan Martin, but Wilson is a good RB, he'll help Eli and Bradshaw.
                              [/quote]

                              To show the fallacy of this point. Cordy Glenn was ranked 25th by Mayock, he's still on the board. Stephen Hill was ranked 32nd. He's still on the board. Vinny Curry was ranked 30th (not that we need another D-lineman) and is still available.
                              [/quote] There's a reason Mayock is an analyst and not a GM...[/quote]




                              there is also a reason we're MB posters and JR IS a GM.




                              (Actually a 2 time SB winning GM)

                              [/quote]

                              Jerry Jones can say that too.

                              Previous accolades have no bearing on current performance[/quote]

                              Horrible analogy, Lawl. Jones won his championships when he had Johnson making the personnel decisions.

                              That notwithstanding, it's pointless because Dallas won their championships nearly 20 years ago, not 3 months ago. Big difference.

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                                Didn't follow the draft this year, so don't know much about Wilson or the prospects who were left. I'll trust Reese and support this pick 100%.

                                One thing going into the season that scared me was depth behind Bradshaw. He gets hurt quite a bit, so I wasn't too keen on just having Scott and ware behind him. Glad we added some competition in that unfortunate scenario.

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