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    While I've been hearing a lot about Ezekial Ansah (mostly due to the JPP similarities I think), wouldn't Alex Okafor make more sense?

    Assumedly he'd be used mostly in Tuck's spot ... he's stronger at the point of attack and against the run. And tons more polished.

    Thoughts?
    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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    I'm pretty high on him myself. He has a quicker first step off the snap, but I think Ansah is stronger at the point of attack and against the run...Also I think it was difficult to gauge Ansash's true potential as a pass rusher this season b/c of how much time he saw at Nose tackle and 5 tech defensive end

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    • #3
      Originally posted by juice33s View Post
      I'm pretty high on him myself. He has a quicker first step off the snap, but I think Ansah is stronger at the point of attack and against the run...Also I think it was difficult to gauge Ansash's true potential as a pass rusher this season b/c of how much time he saw at Nose tackle and 5 tech defensive end

      Well that's kind of my point ... Ansah's really raw and he doesn't have near the measurables of JPP (sort of a JPP-lite).
      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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      • #4
        Ansah doesnt have near the measurables of JPP? How are we figuring that?

        I expect Ansah to put up a much better combine performance than JPP did

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        • #5
          if Reese trades back I could see Okafor as a target.. just not at #19

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          • #6
            Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
            Ansah doesnt have near the measurables of JPP? How are we figuring that?

            I expect Ansah to put up a much better combine performance than JPP did
            Ansah will definitely have a better 40 time (remember my 40 rant from the last two years?) but he's not nearly as fluid as JPP (flexibility). He doesn't have that quick first step the way JPP does, and doesn't have his wingspan (and that obviously won't change). He's a high motor guy that dogs plays and is fairly decent at shedding the block (make no mistake ... I'd be thrilled with either prospect in the draft).

            Okafor has a better pass rush, plays the strong side like a beast (assumedly where we'd want him) is a high motor guy and much more polished (bigger school, plays with more football awareness (as you'd expect from a Texas guy), more forced fumbles, etc ...).

            So while either would be awesome additions to the Giants lineup (imo), if both are available, doesn't Okafor make more sense as a potential starter (or back up that sees a ton of snaps) in 2013?

            P.S. - And yes, Ansah is the *exact* type of athelete the Giants draft.
            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by carter.525 View Post
              if Reese trades back I could see Okafor as a target.. just not at #19
              I think Okafor (and Ansah) will be gone by the mid 1st round (10-20 pick somewhere).

              What he did to Oregon combined with a solid Combine will be what scouts will remember most.
              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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              • #8
                I think Ansah may very well have a similar (within an inch or two) of JPP. And I think his first step may be better.

                But I also dont think the argument of polished vs. raw means anything. Id take the raw guy with more upside any time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                  I think Ansah may very well have a similar (within an inch or two) of JPP. And I think his first step may be better.

                  But I also dont think the argument of polished vs. raw means anything. Id take the raw guy with more upside any time.
                  Yeah I saw someone posted he had a 91" wingspan (which can't CAN'T be accurate).

                  Polished vs. raw means a lot to me ... at least in so far as one is realized and one is only potential to be realized (sort of the difference between Hakeem Nicks and Kenny Britt).

                  Both are high motor guys for sure (good thing). Both have outstanding rush abilities (although I don't see how you can say Ansah has a better first step) and both play the run well (although I'd still argue Okafor edges Ansah here as well). Okafor played against better competition and produced on the biggest stage.

                  Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGo3BVi_7Do

                  (Again let me repeat ... I'd be thrilled with either ... just wanted opinions of one vs. the other)
                  I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                  • #10
                    I was comparing Ansah vs JPP. Okafor is the quickest out the gates of the three. Though he is by far the smallest. 3" and maybe 10-20 pounds smaller. (30 pounds smaller than JPP)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      I was comparing Ansah vs JPP. Okafor is the quickest out the gates of the three. Though he is by far the smallest. 3" and maybe 10-20 pounds smaller. (30 pounds smaller than JPP)
                      I hate the wiggle room measurements seem to have before the Combine ... I have Ansah at 6'5 270 and Okafar at 6'5 265. I know both put on weight since their freshmen years (I believe both entered around 230ish).

                      I've seen Ansah listed as 6'6 on some sites and Okafor at 6'4 1/2 (shrug).

                      I have no problem with anyone saying Ansah edges Okafor from a sheer athletic standpoint (and most Giants fans will probably agree that we take the more athletically inclined generally speaking).

                      Okafor just seems more devastating to me (combination smarts, football talent and awareness).
                      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                      • #12
                        Am i the only one thats not impressed but any of the DE's? (that could actually be on the board)....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                          Am i the only one thats not impressed but any of the DE's? (that could actually be on the board)....
                          Just curious but what DEs in recent years have you been impressed by?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                            Am i the only one thats not impressed but any of the DE's? (that could actually be on the board)....

                            Might want to watch some tape ... some pretty impressive guys out there this year.
                            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                            • #15
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbdojf5lV1k

                              Okafor is pretty nice..

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