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  • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
    He is either extremely guilty or the stupidest person alive. Either way it's not looking good for him.
    The league is full of stupid guilty people.

    At least Te'o gets to be one or the other.

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    • Oh I think there was very real possibility he would go top 10 prior to all this. Of course we haven't had the combine yet and if he runs a 4.8/40 then he was never going to be drafted that high. But the guy had all the momentum in the world before the title game. It's been a bad few weeks for him and its only gonna get worse.

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      • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
        Oh I think there was very real possibility he would go top 10 prior to all this. Of course we haven't had the combine yet and if he runs a 4.8/40 then he was never going to be drafted that high. But the guy had all the momentum in the world before the title game. It's been a bad few weeks for him and its only gonna get worse.
        He only had momentum in the media. NFL scouts/teams never thought he was a top 10 talent.

        ""That crazy stuff you heard earlier about him being a top-five pick, that was all hype," said the NFC scout. "That's the TV, media, Notre Dame-driven hype. Inside linebackers, even great ones, don't go that high. Unless you're the next **** Butkus or Ray Lewis and he's not that. He's not even as good as Jerod Mayo." Most NFL people consider Te'o a late first- to second-round talent"

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        • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
          The league is full of stupid guilty people.

          At least Te'o gets to be one or the other.
          Normally stupid behavior from a college student comes in the form of smoking pot, or getting drunk in public or getting in a fight. This is beyond that stuff IMO. A MLB is typically the QB for the defense or at least one of the defensive leaders. If he was complicit in this scheme then he's not a guy you can trust or would want to follow, and if he was really duped then he's an idiot. Either way do you want this guy as the QB of your defense? I say no. But others will certainly disagree.

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          • Assuming how gullible he can potentially be, one would imagine that a few teams would feel responsible for babysitting him so he doesn't fall into any more trouble like this. Just for his own good, I'd prefer he ends up in a smaller market area and away from a place like New York.

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            • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
              Normally stupid behavior from a college student comes in the form of smoking pot, or getting drunk in public or getting in a fight. This is beyond that stuff IMO. A MLB is typically the QB for the defense or at least one of the defensive leaders. If he was complicit in this scheme then he's not a guy you can trust or would want to follow, and if he was really duped then he's an idiot. Either way do you want this guy as the QB of your defense? I say no. But others will certainly disagree.
              Or having 10 kids, or robbing banks.

              Yea, making up a story about a gf is a far worse crime....

              Oh wait, its not a crime at all.

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              • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                He only had momentum in the media. NFL scouts/teams never thought he was a top 10 talent.

                ""That crazy stuff you heard earlier about him being a top-five pick, that was all hype," said the NFC scout. "That's the TV, media, Notre Dame-driven hype. Inside linebackers, even great ones, don't go that high. Unless you're the next **** Butkus or Ray Lewis and he's not that. He's not even as good as Jerod Mayo." Most NFL people consider Te'o a late first- to second-round talent"
                Kiper still had him at 8 yesterday IIRC. Not to say Kiper would be right, but I've seen other mocks with him in the top 10 as well. Obviously this is not an exact science. Ray Lewis wasn't Ray Lewis when he was drafted...25 teams passed on him.

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                • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
                  Kiper still had him at 8 yesterday IIRC. Not to say Kiper would be right, but I've seen other mocks with him in the top 10 as well. Obviously this is not an exact science. Ray Lewis wasn't Ray Lewis when he was drafted...25 teams passed on him.
                  Exactly. The media.

                  Actual scouts/nfl people have never thought he was a top 10 pick.

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                  • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    Or having 10 kids, or robbing banks.

                    Yea, making up a story about a gf is a far worse crime....

                    Oh wait, its not a crime at all.
                    So your saying because it's not a crime that it's okay? That this behavior shouldn't be considered when a team drafts him? The guy made up a girl, then killed her. Then played it up in the media to further his cause (allegedly). That's ----ed up. This is a guy you want as a main cog on your team?

                    College kids have sex and sometimes have children out of wedlock...but really that could happen to anybody. This is on a different level. This is something that most people wouldn't do. He has some deep-seeded issues going on.

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                    • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Exactly. The media.

                      Actual scouts/nfl people have never thought he was a top 10 pick.
                      And you know this...how? Because one scout said something? Im not saying he definately was a top 10 pick, but saying something is definative based on something one scout on one team said is foolish. Maybe other scouts feel differently. Frankly I think discussing this stuff before the combine is silly anyway, but here we are. I think we can agree that this scandal is going to hurt him.

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                      • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                        Well the cards FB says this is actually a real person which is even stranger. Did he meet someone at the game in 2011? No? I don't really understand that part. We clearly don't have all the details.

                        But assume he talked to the girl for almost a year online and on the phone. Actually did fall for her. He made up stories to make it seem more legitimate and spare him some embarrassment. That part of it makes sense.
                        I think people would POSSIBLY consider this...But the supposed picture of the girl is a totally different person, theres no way he met one person & had a picture of a different person...

                        It could be some insane twist that this girl couldve met different football players & gave a fake name/story to them....But the picture belonging to a totally unrelated person is what deads that theory...

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                        • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                          Disagree, they do place a high value on LBs, but in what recent draft was there a LB who was better than who they picked early?
                          Mason Foster/Kj Wright wouldve definetly been BPA/need over jernigan.......Many would argue that Daryl Washington,Sean Lee are better than Linval Joseph.....Navarro Bowman instead of Chad Jones...Lavonte David, although a 2nd round pick, when he came within a few picks of our 2nd round pick,many would argue you dont pass the opportunity to trade up & get a steal...

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                          • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
                            And you know this...how? Because one scout said something? Im not saying he definately was a top 10 pick, but saying something is definative based on something one scout on one team said is foolish. Maybe other scouts feel differently. Frankly I think discussing this stuff before the combine is silly anyway, but here we are. I think we can agree that this scandal is going to hurt him.
                            Because that is all any scout has said since they have been asked. You find me a single NFL scout that says Teo is a top 10 pick. Go ahead.

                            Kiper and ESPN are not scouts.

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                            • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
                              So your saying because it's not a crime that it's okay?
                              No, Im saying its not "the worst thing ever" like many of you seem to think. As long as he sets the story straight and doesnt lie to teams at the combine interviews, it wont affect his draft stock much at all.

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                              • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
                                So your saying because it's not a crime that it's okay? That this behavior shouldn't be considered when a team drafts him? The guy made up a girl, then killed her. Then played it up in the media to further his cause (allegedly). That's ----ed up. This is a guy you want as a main cog on your team?College kids have sex and sometimes have children out of wedlock...but really that could happen to anybody. This is on a different level. This is something that most people wouldn't do. He has some deep-seeded issues going on.
                                Lol deep seeded issues? Christian Peter a former player that's a dude who had some deep seeded issues coming out of college. Here us the thing if he made this up to get attention, it's strange but there has been things done by people far worse. If he was fooled by this and didn't know, I can see where a college kid who is doing nothing but playing football and going to class found some relief by forming a relationship with someone online. You have to understand how little free time these kids have. He may have just been looking for an outlet and allowed himself to be fooled.

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