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  • #31
    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Jones drops 5 yards from the line once or twice a game. I rarely ever see him not on the line when the ball is snapped. His medical will scare the Giants away
    yeah no more players with medical issues, not worth it.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
      No. His natural position is pass rusher. He rushes almost every snap.

      He's not a linebacker
      So what.....I still would take him over Te'O. It's not like he can't learn how to play linebacker. Sorry I don't know as much as you about the college game. I see a great player that can be a hybrid player...better??? In the SEC championship game I didn't see him rushing the passer every snap...
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
        So what.....I still would take him over Te'O. It's not like he can't learn how to play linebacker. Sorry I don't know as much as you about the college game. I see a great player that can be a hybrid player...better??? In the SEC championship game I didn't see him with his hand in the dirt every snap...
        Right. You see a guy lined up on the line rushing the QB every play. Wether he has his hand off the ground or not is meaningless.

        And if you have a guy who is a great pass rusher generally you don't move him to a position where he doesn't rush the passer much.

        For instance. Denver which runs a 4-3 drafted Von Miller. Who played a similar position to Jones, but did drop into coverage more often. Denver essentially just plays Miller at DE now. Hand up or hand down. He rushes the passer on every pass play except for the occasional zone drop (not any different than Osi or JPp dropping into coverage).

        I don't dislike Jones at all. But saying he's a linebacker is simply untrue. He would have to show the ability to play there. Which he has not done in college. He is a pass rusher. That's where he plays, that's where he excels.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
          So what.....I still would take him over Te'O. It's not like he can't learn how to play linebacker. Sorry I don't know as much as you about the college game. I see a great player that can be a hybrid player...better??? In the SEC championship game I didn't see him rushing the passer every snap...
          You would take jones over Te'o? how much college ball do you watch and what special insight do you have to say this? absolutely absurd and If this were to be the case Te'o would have to be suffering from an injury that would keep him off the field for a significant amount of time, talent wise just craziness.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
            You would take jones over Te'o? how much college ball do you watch and what special insight do you have to say this? absolutely absurd and If this were to be the case Te'o would have to be suffering from an injury that would keep him off the field for a significant amount of time, talent wise just craziness.
            Different types of players. Assuming the medical on Jones clears (which I doubt) I think Jones is a more valuable player than Teo. Pass rusher > non pass rusher.

            And that's coming from a ND fan who loves Teo

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            • #36
              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              Right. You see a guy lined up on the line rushing the QB every play. Wether he has his hand off the ground or not is meaningless.

              And if you have a guy who is a great pass rusher generally you don't move him to a position where he doesn't rush the passer much.

              For instance. Denver which runs a 4-3 drafted Von Miller. Who played a similar position to Jones, but did drop into coverage more often. Denver essentially just plays Miller at DE now. Hand up or hand down. He rushes the passer on every pass play except for the occasional zone drop (not any different than Osi or JPp dropping into coverage).

              I don't dislike Jones at all. But saying he's a linebacker is simply untrue. He would have to show the ability to play there. Which he has not done in college. He is a pass rusher. That's where he plays, that's where he excels.
              We could use a pass rusher with Tuck on the decline and Osi playing his last games for us . . . . .

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GMENAGAIN View Post
                We could use a pass rusher with Tuck on the decline and Osi playing his last games for us . . . . .
                I agree with that. There are quite a few good pass rushers in this draft.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                  I agree with that. There are quite a few good pass rushers in this draft.
                  A pass rusher who can also stop the run

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
                    A pass rusher who can also stop the run
                    Generally, anyone who is talented enough to be a great pass rusher has the skill set to stop the run, its just a matter of technique and being willing.

                    And of course size is always important. Generally a guy who is under 260 pounds is not going to be great against the run from the DE spot.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Generally, anyone who is talented enough to be a great pass rusher has the skill set to stop the run, its just a matter of technique and being willing.

                      And of course size is always important. Generally a guy who is under 260 pounds is not going to be great against the run from the DE spot.
                      The Giants need to draft lineman on both sides of the ball. Improve the lines everything else will fall into place. I could even see a DT since Marvin Austin is a bust

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                        Different types of players. Assuming the medical on Jones clears (which I doubt) I think Jones is a more valuable player than Teo. Pass rusher > non pass rusher.

                        And that's coming from a ND fan who loves Teo
                        But would you draft Jones to convert him to a DE, barring his injury history. Take into effect the rotation we play at DE and who we already have waiting in the wing, plus how long it would take for him to get it right and put it altogether vs. Te'o who would start immediately in our defense and possibly signifigantly up grade the position?

                        *How did you feel last night, watching Manziel (don't know if i spelled that right) win the Heisman over Te'o? I am stationed in Hawaii and i was at this mai-tai bar with a bunch of locals and we were all pissed off at, a lot of cursing, some racial remarks, extra drinks were order some people even left lol. These Samoans are all about any player that's a native.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                          But would you draft Jones to convert him to a DE, barring his injury history. Take into effect the rotation we play at DE and who we already have waiting in the wing, plus how long it would take for him to get it right and put it altogether vs. Te'o who would start immediately in our defense and possibly signifigantly up grade the position?
                          Well its certainly more of a projection with Jones than it would be with Teo. But I think you could make the argument for it.

                          As for the Heisman, I knew they were going to give it to Manzel, so I didnt pay attention to it. They really should just make it an offensive award. Why they invite defensive players who never have a chance I have no clue.

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                          • #43
                            Jones and Te'O will both be gone in the draft, fact.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
                              Jones and Te'O will both be gone in the draft, fact.
                              Depends on Jones medical. He may be pulled off teams boards

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                                Depends on Jones medical. He may be pulled off teams boards
                                Yep, and I really dont think Teo is going to go as high as people think. Hes not a Willis type talent, not even a Kuechly type talent. I think somewhere 15-20 he gets drafted.


                                I could see Teo go to the Steelers for instance. To pair with Timmons, or the Colts to be the leader as they install that new defense.

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