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  • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    wouldnt surprise me if 1 or fewer qbs gets taken rd 1
    Huh? Even If they sucked today, It is still not outside of the realm reality that KC takes a QB and depending on who they take we might see two go in the first 5 picks.
    i.e - KC - Geno / Phi - Manuel
    and bet on it that someone in the first takes a flyer on Barkley.

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    • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
      Huh? Even If they sucked today, It is still not outside of the realm reality that KC takes a QB and depending on who they take we might see two go in the first 5 picks.
      i.e - KC - Geno / Phi - Manuel
      and bet on it that someone in the first takes a flyer on Barkley.
      I am hoping a few go in the 1st because that means a talent like prince a few years back mat fall to us. not saying a CB, you know what I mean,,I think.

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      • Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
        I am hoping a few go in the 1st because that means a talent like prince a few years back mat fall to us. not saying a CB, you know what I mean,,I think.
        Yeah I hear what your saying. If it plays out the way I hope KC/Phi/Arizona and possible Buff take knee jerk dives on some of these OB's, kind of like red said "GM's doing it to save their jobs." that should hopefully push back some great picks to us at 19.

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        • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
          Yeah I hear what your saying. If it plays out the way I hope KC/Phi/Arizona and possible Buff take knee jerk dives on some of these OB's, kind of like red said "GM's doing it to save their jobs." that should hopefully push back some great picks to us at 19.
          do you think if milliner for some reason made it to mid round the giants might move up? or do they stay put if the guy they had realistically being there is still there?

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          • Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
            do you think if milliner for some reason made it to mid round the giants might move up? or do they stay put if the guy they had realistically being there is still there?
            Nah reese is somewhat stingy with his picks and rightfully so. if its not to move back for more picks, I don't see him moving up too expensive and we have so many needs to address.

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            • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
              Nah reese is somewhat stingy with his picks and rightfully so. if its not to move back for more picks, I don't see him moving up too expensive and we have so many needs to address.
              I hope this draft is a home run

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              • What's the word on Vince Williams from Florida st? Looked pretty good at MLB

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                • Originally posted by Sundown View Post
                  What's the word on Vince Williams from Florida st? Looked pretty good at MLB
                  1 report said he was easily the best performing Lb of the Sb week. Personally, I think this kid is a good football player. Anyone who watched the FSU bowl game vs N Illinois got to see 1st hand how mobile and physical this kid is. He ate up Jordan Lynch and his option system. It was real eye openner of a game for me.
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                  • I like Vince Williams. Sure, he had a great line in front of him, but he sure could cover a lot of ground at 250. I personally love what I saw from him against Virginia Tech.

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                    • Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
                      do you think if milliner for some reason made it to mid round the giants might move up? or do they stay put if the guy they had realistically being there is still there?
                      We dont know how high he is on the Giants board. Maybe they think Xavier Rhodes or Banks is the best corner in the draft or maybe they dont see that much of a difference between the top guys. U would hope if they thought Milliner was by far better than everyone else and a Top 3 player in the entire draft they would try to get him. In the 2010 Draft Reese said JPP was #5 or #6 overall on the Giants board and they got him at 15. If u believe him than U get some insight because they didnt move up in that case. Although again we dont know all of the variables maybe they didnt move up because maybe with 3 picks to go 5.6.7 on the board were all there so they thought they were going to win no matter what. Basically I have no clue and Im just ranting

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                      • Stock UP and Stock DOWN according to walterfootball from Sr Bowl.... Make sure u read Michael Mauti's stock up paragraph...



                        2013 Senior Bowl: NFL Draft Stock Up

                        Robert Alford, CB/KR, SE Louisiana
                        One of the great things about the Senior Bowl is seeing small-school prospects like Robert Alford go up against BCS prospects. Alford took advantage of the opportunity, shining as one of the top cornerbacks in practice. He also had a 95-yard kickoff return to open the game and then made some nice pass break-ups and picked off Zac Dysert on a two-point conversion attempt. There's now a chance that Alford will be picked in the second round, and it's difficult to imagine him getting into Day 3.

                        Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
                        Ezekiel Ansah was just OK in the Senior Bowl practices because he was thinking too much. He stopped thinking and just played during the game, and the result was a dominant performance. Ansah destroyed every lineman he went up against. He put tons of pressure on the quarterbacks and stopped ball-carriers for minimal gains (or losses). He also recorded a strip-sack of Ryan Nassib. Ansah was awesome, and there's a good chance he'll be taken as high as ninth overall in the 2013 NFL Draft. I currently have him going to the Giants in my 2013 NFL Mock Draft, but it's doubtful that he's getting there now.

                        Jonathan Cyprien, S, Florida International
                        Jonathan Cyprien had a great week in Mobile. He stood out in the practices then made several great plays during the game. He may have sneaked into third-round consideration.

                        Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
                        Eric Fisher made tons of money during Senior Bowl week. It all started with Mike Mayock proclaiming that Fisher could challenge Texas A&M's Luke Joeckel to be the No. 1 tackle off the board. Fisher then won almost all of his one-on-one reps against the top pass-rushers during the practices. That trend continued during the game. Fisher won't go any lower than No. 11 on Draft Day, and he could go as high as No. 4 to the Eagles.






                        Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
                        Jonathan Franklin rushed for a North team-high 41 yards on just five carries in the Senior Bowl. He received some nice blocks, particularly from guard Hugh Thornton, but he showed great patience on many of his carries.

                        Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
                        As Charlie Campbell wrote, "One scout who has had success finding running backs is a fan of Gators running back Mike Gillislee. He believes that Gillislee could reward the team that drafts him with the ability to play on all three downs. The scout said that Gillislee is a good worker who really prepared himself well in the weight room for the 2012 season when he finally had a chance to be the starter with Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps out of Gainesville." Gillislee showed great running ability during the game, rushing for 46 yards on 10 carries.

                        Marquise Goodwin, WR/KR, Texas
                        Marquise Goodwin impressed with his speed in Mobile. He's drawn some comparisons to Mike Wallace. Goodwin, who hauled in five receptions for 43 yards during the game, may sneak into Day 2.

                        Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
                        Lane Johnson went into Senior Bowl week as a fringe first-round prospect, but he definitely solidified that standing with a great performance in Mobile. He's not sound as Eric Fisher, but he moves his feet extremely well for his position and possesses tons of upside. There's a good chance he now gets taken off the board in the 16-24 range.





                        Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
                        Datone Jones had a great week. He was one of the top defensive linemen in the drills and made some great plays during the game. Unfortunately, some teams are befuddled by what to do with him because he has no real natural position at the next level.

                        E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
                        E.J. Manuel was the top quarterback in the Senior Bowl, leading the South team to all 21 of its points. Manuel, who went 7-of-10 for 76 yards, one touchdown and an interception, dropped in a beautiful touch pass to Michael Williams for a 20-yard score. He also rushed four times for 10 yards on the ground and a second touchdown. The pick wasn't his fault; it came on a tip on a fourth down, so the South squad would have given up possession anyway. Mike Mayock said that he was hearing third- and fourth-round grades for Manuel, which means the Florida State product will be going in Rounds 2-3 because quarterbacks are usually chosen earlier than anticipated.

                        Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State
                        Michael Mauti isn't at the Senior Bowl because of a knee injury, but he's getting a stock up for sending a handwritten note to every single NFL general manager during the week about how much football means to him. Most general managers were reportedly impressed. Mauti is a great leader and will prove to be a mid-round steal.

                        Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
                        Quinton Patton earned the Senior Bowl practice award for the top receiver in Mobile. He was easily the best wideout on the South team during practice, showing off his excellent route-running ability. He also blocked well during the game, though he didn't register a reception. This was a pleasant surprise; he was slotted in the fourth round of my recent 2013 NFL Mock Draft, but he could be making a second-round appearance soon.







                        David Quessenberry, OT/G/C, San Jose State
                        David Quessenberry, a former tight end, showed off his athleticism at the Senior Bowl. He won most of his one-on-one battles. Even better, he showed that he can play all five positions on the offensive line, including center. He figures to be chosen on Day 2 this April.

                        Brian Schwenke, C/G, California
                        One of Mike Mayock's favorite prospects, Brian Schwenke lived up to the NFL Draft analyst's hype. Schwenke used his quickness to beat opposing defensive linemen in the one-on-one drills. Schwenke has experience in guard, so teams will like his versatility.

                        Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
                        There were a number of impressive corners in Mobile. Desmond Trufant was the best of the group. He routinely shut down receivers in the one-on-ones, which is more difficult than it already sounds since the wideout has the advantage in those drills. Multiple scouts and sources have indicated that Trufant will be chosen in the first round. He'll be there in the next edition of my 2013 NFL Mock Draft.

                        Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
                        Larry Warford is a beast. He had a dominant week at the Senior Bowl, rarely getting beat in the one-on-ones in practice. He also had a massive block to open up a big running lane for Mike Gillislee during the game. He solidified his second-round status.

                        Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
                        Markus Wheaton was one of the top receivers in Mobile. He showed off his speed, which complements his size well. He also made several spectacular catches, beating most receivers not named Marcus Trufant in the one-on-one battles. Wheaton had four receptions for 48 yards in the game.

                        J.J. Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern
                        J.J. Wilcox is one of a few small-school prospects to step up during Senior Bowl week. Despite weighing 215 pounds, Wilcox displayed impressive feet during practice. He has a shot at being drafted in the third round.

                        Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern
                        Brandon Williams was one of the top defensive linemen at the Senior Bowl. Like Robert Alford, Williams showed off his ability and dominated BCS competition. The consensus is that Williams has entered second-round territory; players with massive bodies (6-2, 340) who can move as well as Williams are a rare commodity.

                        Michael Williams, TE, Alabama
                        Michael Williams, a 270-pound tight end, showed receiving ability during the game when he beat USC safety T.J. McDonald down the field for a 20-yard touchdown. Williams made two grabs for a South team-high 39 yards.







                        2013 Senior Bowl: NFL Draft Stock Down

                        Oday Aboushi, G/OT, Virginia
                        Oday Aboushi struggled in Mobile. He looked slow when trying to block in the one-on-one drills. He was also whistled for a penalty during the game. He'll have to move inside to guard because he's just not athletic enough to be outside.

                        Braxston Cave, C, Notre Dame
                        Braxston Cave was the interior lineman who struggled the most at Mobile. He didn't look good in the one-on-ones at all. He's probably a late-round pick.

                        Nico Johnson, LB, Alabama
                        Nico Johnson struggled in coverage during the Senior Bowl practices. He reportedly is being pegged as a two-down linebacker in the NFL.

                        Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
                        Landry Jones was absolutely abysmal in the game, going just 3-of-10 for 16 yards. He often checks the ball down and feels phantom pressure in the pocket. He's so rattled by pass-rushers that he sometimes doesn't look downfield. Jones may not be draftable.

                        Robert Lester, S, Alabama
                        Robert Lester was a huge disappointment during Senior Bowl week. He frequently struggled in coverage during practice, making some believe that he was just a product of a great supporting cast in Alabama. That carried over into the game when he was beaten on a Mike Glennon deep pass down the seam.

                        Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
                        As Charlie Campbell noted earlier during the week in his Senior Bowl Rumors post, scouts were disappointed with Ryan Nassib all week. DraftCountdown's Shane Hallam agreed: "Struggled all week at planting his front foot and driving the ball even when coached individually about it." This carried over into the game, as Nassib made a poor decision and tossed a pick following a low snap. Nassib did nothing positive of note, finishing 4-of-10 for 44 yards and the interception.

                        Justin Pugh, G/OT, Syracuse
                        Scouts were extremely disappointed by Justin Pugh's 31-inch arms at the weigh-in. Pugh went on to surrender a strip-sack to Georgia's Cornelius Washington during the game. The consensus is that Pugh will have to play guard in the NFL.

                        Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
                        Chase Thomas was one of the most disappointing players at the Senior Bowl. He was destroyed on a Hugh Thornton block on a Jonathan Franklin rushing touchdown. Thomas may have entered Round 4-5 range.

                        Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
                        Ricky Wagner had a miserable performance in the Senior Bowl. He was beaten repeatedly by a variety of pass-rushers. He should have been whistled for a blatant hold on one occasion.

                        Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
                        Tyler Wilson looked like a right-handed version of Matt Leinart in the Senior Bowl. He spent most of his time checking down, and his one deep attempt died in the air and was nearly picked off. This was only one throw, but scouts already had reservations about his deep ball heading into the Senior Bowl, so this only validated their concerns. It's tough to imagine Wilson going in the first round now. He finished 8-of-11, but for only 39 yards.

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                        • Thanks nycsportzfan . . . .nice read

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                          • For all the talk how great Wisconsin lineman are, Every time I cut a tape of a high level DL prospect against them, They get abused.
                            A lot of people on Twitter want to rip the QB's but these events are really hard on them. Timing is everything for a QB and in 3 days of practices how are they supposed to find that. Mobile QB's that can adlib like Manuel have a huge advantage over drop back pocket passers in this environment.

                            I dont get why Datone Jones doesnt have a position looks like a 5 tech to me. Basically the same size of Quinton Coples.I like his tape. Ive been going through the Nebraska and Rice games the last 2 days. Probably will do the Houston game 2 because it says he caught a TD pass and I would really like to see that. Jones looks like he could be a beast of an inside pass rusher in the NFL. The Giants have lacked an interior pass rushing presence for a few seasons now. Justin Tuck inside used to be the best thing the defense had going for it.
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                            • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                              1 report said he was easily the best performing Lb of the Sb week. Personally, I think this kid is a good football player. Anyone who watched the FSU bowl game vs N Illinois got to see 1st hand how mobile and physical this kid is. He ate up Jordan Lynch and his option system. It was real eye openner of a game for me.
                              Originally posted by penguinfarmer View Post
                              I like Vince Williams. Sure, he had a great line in front of him, but he sure could cover a lot of ground at 250. I personally love what I saw from him against Virginia Tech.
                              Thanks for the info gentlemen, ill keep an eye on him during the combine.

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                              • Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                                Thanks nycsportzfan . . . .nice read
                                No problem! Cool that Mauti is writing teams letting them know how much football means to em, ey? THat kid is worth a flier in mid rds, and u can tell how much he loves the game in his play on the field...

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