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  • Per Waltfootball, Giants scout overherad saying "thats my LT" about L.Johnson..

    Walt football mocked Lane Johnson to us at pick 20 in todays Mock and at the end of his reasonings why, he said it helps matters that a GIANTS scout was recently overheard saying "Thats my LT" referring to the athletic pass blocker from Oklahoma..

    Obviously i don't know how much truth there is to this, and could mean nothing, but in draft threads, anything GIANTS goes....


    Heres the Pick and stuff walt wrote...


    New York Giants: Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
    The offensive tackle position is a mess for the Giants. Will Beatty and Sean Locklear are both free agents, while David Diehl has transformed into a human turnstile recently. This is an area that desperately needs to be addressed to keep Eli Manning from getting too banged up as he advances into his 30s.

    Lane Johnson had a terrific Senior Bowl and is now in top-20 consideration. Sealing the deal here is that a Giants scout was recently overheard saying, "that's my left tackle."

  • Kruunch
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    No, another words people are clueless for talking cr-ap about guys who always were gonna be a work in progress and take a couple yrs to develop and wait for a legit opening to exist before getting a real chance... I take it with a grain of salt, because i know the people who diss Brewer obviously have no clue what kinda prospect he was, and the fact he was always a developmental prospect.. Anyone who followed the draft that yr, knows this.. Its not a secret...
    First of all, I object to your use of the word "clueless" to describe people who don't agree with you. I've seen you post enough to know you're as full of **** as anyone else on these boards.

    Second, I'm basing my opinion solely on his NFL training camps and preseason play over the past two years. Not what he did as a junior three years ago.

    Third, what I saw in this preseason wasn't a project ... it was a big guy who couldn't get out of his own way. No athleticism. No skill. Just a big body that was fairly easy to get around. To say he's a "project" at this point would be overly kind.

    P.S. - I follow the draft every year and follow up with the players we choose and my only thought of when we drafted Brewer was it was a positional pick we needed of a player who could be best described as "meh".
    Last edited by Kruunch; 02-06-2013, 11:11 AM.

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    So in other words, people are clueless .... unless they were right.

    Good call.
    No, another words people are clueless for talking cr-ap about guys who always were gonna be a work in progress and take a couple yrs to develop and wait for a legit opening to exist before getting a real chance... I take it with a grain of salt, because i know the people who diss Brewer obviously have no clue what kinda prospect he was, and the fact he was always a developmental prospect.. Anyone who followed the draft that yr, knows this.. Its not a secret...

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    Agreed, although after this past preseason he looked closer to a 10 year project.
    I didnt see him much playing at UAB I only could find the 1 game of him to cut. I might of saw him play 3 times in 2011. I had 1 2010 game cut

    U can see he is athletic but a complete mess this is as a Junior 2

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  • Kruunch
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    Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Also very athletic.. Athletic OT's with LT potential tend to get picked even with shoddy Technique because u can coach Technique, but not measurables and size(sound familiar??lol)


    People dissing James Brewer are clueless at the kinda potential he has.. He came in as a guy we all knew needed at least 2 seasons of being coached up in the technique area of his game, and gathering expiernece, and now we come into YR3.. Now if he does nothing this yr, its safe to say hes a bust, but i for one, am far from thinking that yet.. I loved the pick, and a kid whos 6ft 6in 330lbs and can move his feet like he does with them long arms and athletic ability , is worth the wait in my book.. Again, this is the yr though.. if he does nothing this yr, i could deal with people saying hes a bust...
    So in other words, people are clueless .... unless they were right.

    Good call.

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  • penguinfarmer
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    You tried too hard.

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  • wideright91
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    Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
    So would we pay Beatty to be a LT & degrade him to RT? Or pick a Tackle in the top 20 to play RT....sounds kinda like a conflict
    Wait, WHAT!? We're switching to a 3-4 and BEATTY is going to play LT's old spot at rush linebacker!? WTF is wrong with our front office!?! OH NO!

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    Agreed, although after this past preseason he looked closer to a 10 year project.
    LOL yeah

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  • nycsportzfan
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    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Mccants had awful technique in college.It was known coming in he was a total project and was most likely a PS guy. he did worse than I thought but I still liked the pick. He had real good measurements it was worth take a shot on trying to coach him up
    Also very athletic.. Athletic OT's with LT potential tend to get picked even with shoddy Technique because u can coach Technique, but not measurables and size(sound familiar??lol)


    People dissing James Brewer are clueless at the kinda potential he has.. He came in as a guy we all knew needed at least 2 seasons of being coached up in the technique area of his game, and gathering expiernece, and now we come into YR3.. Now if he does nothing this yr, its safe to say hes a bust, but i for one, am far from thinking that yet.. I loved the pick, and a kid whos 6ft 6in 330lbs and can move his feet like he does with them long arms and athletic ability , is worth the wait in my book.. Again, this is the yr though.. if he does nothing this yr, i could deal with people saying hes a bust...

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  • Kruunch
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    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Brewer looked like a 2 year project to me when they drafted him. If he doesnt get on the field this year than most likely he is just a back up. He was a 4th rounder though so thats not really the end of the world.
    Agreed, although after this past preseason he looked closer to a 10 year project.

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  • juice33s
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    Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
    Although he ended up being a free agent, James Brown of Troy was a guy who I would've had over McCants. Brown's fall is puzzling considering he started 3 games at Guard this season for CHI.

    Agreed though, its too early to tell for many of these guys but the draft could be very telling in regard to Reese's feeling of where these guys are at.
    Scouts from three organizations told the Chicago Tribune that rookie G/T James Brown was removed from their draft boards due to off-field issues.
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ards-mel-kiper

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
    Although he ended up being a free agent, James Brown of Troy was a guy who I would've had over McCants. Brown's fall is puzzling considering he started 3 games at Guard this season for CHI.

    Agreed though, its too early to tell for many of these guys but the draft could be very telling in regard to Reese's feeling of where these guys are at.
    I guess they wanted a tackle, not sure

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  • PBTimmons
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    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Mccants had awful technique in college.It was known coming in he was a total project and was most likely a PS guy. he did worse than I thought but I still liked the pick. He had real good measurements it was worth take a shot on trying to coach him up
    Although he ended up being a free agent, James Brown of Troy was a guy who I would've had over McCants. Brown's fall is puzzling considering he started 3 games at Guard this season for CHI.

    Agreed though, its too early to tell for many of these guys but the draft could be very telling in regard to Reese's feeling of where these guys are at.

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
    McCants is still on our roster? He was cut. No one else wanted him, so he is back I guess. He will get cut again. I saw absolutely nothing with him in the preseason. He looked like he never played a game of football in his life. Can he rebound, maybe, but unlikely.

    Im wasn't comparing Diehl to Jones based on where they got or will get drafted. Jones played on Alabama's line which will help his draft stock big time. What I was comparing was the fact both can play every position on the line. If he is there with our #2 pick and we didnt get an OL in the first, Id draft him.
    Mccants had awful technique in college.It was known coming in he was a total project and was most likely a PS guy. he did worse than I thought but I still liked the pick. He had real good measurements it was worth take a shot on trying to coach him up

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  • Redeyejedi
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    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    I agree. At best, we haven't seen enough of Mosely to know one way or the other. Same could be said of Brewer but after two years, that's a bit telling.
    Brewer looked like a 2 year project to me when they drafted him. If he doesnt get on the field this year than most likely he is just a back up. He was a 4th rounder though so thats not really the end of the world.

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