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  • #16
    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    I completely agree with this post.

    We have often drafted to need in the JR era. Not always but often.


    -Aaron Ross was definitely a need at corner.
    -KP was a need at safety
    -Nicks was a need at WR
    -JPP was NOT a need pick and was def. BPA
    -Prince was NOT really a need pick (he dropped to us and we couldn't resist)
    - Wilson was a need pick.

    So JR has gone both ways but the perception that we always go BPA is wrong.
    There is no "always" in the NFL. BPA is simply the answer we get when the guy we wanted isn't the pick. There is nothing to say a BPA can't fill a need but Reese has been clear about taking a draft pick and finding a place for them IF they are that athletically impressive.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      I completely agree with this post.

      We have often drafted to need in the JR era. Not always but often.


      -Aaron Ross was definitely a need at corner.
      -KP was a need at safety
      -Nicks was a need at WR
      -JPP was NOT a need pick and was def. BPA
      -Prince was NOT really a need pick (he dropped to us and we couldn't resist)
      - Wilson was a need pick.

      So JR has gone both ways but the perception that we always go BPA is wrong.
      Pretty sure I saw all those guys being mocked around where we picked so to say they weren't bpa is a stretch.i think we just get real lucky sometimes. Also you have to factor in if we need a wr and there is only 1 -2 player rated ahead of him we are gonna take the wr. Now was he bpa,no, but he was a value pick AND filled a need. That's what I love about Reese he almost always gets great value out of his picks.fact is unless we are looking at the giants draft board we have no idea if they are drafting bpa. Bpa to you and I could be completely different to them

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      • #18
        I really need to make a graph to show people how the giants draft. Its not BPA nor is it need.

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        • #19
          reese has said plenty times, they stick to BPA....But will fill BPA that happens to be a need also when multiple BPA's may be closely ranked on their board

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          • #20
            They have time to develop bc they sit the bench for 2 years before tc put them in.....................just kidding...........no Im not........................just kidding

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            • #21
              Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
              reese has said plenty times, they stick to BPA....But will fill BPA that happens to be a need also when multiple BPA's may be closely ranked on their board
              Yeah that's pretty much what I was tryin to say.

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              • #22
                We simply draft smart.. It dosen't mean the players will always be good, because thats just impossible to forsee, but we draft smart almost always.. Yes, we draft for NEED, but mostly becuase the player were drafting is close if not thee best player available and happens to fill a need..

                For instance, KP was the highest ranked S the yr he came out and almost everyone had em going in the first rd, so why woulden't we take em?

                Now fast forward to Hakeem Nicks, who was a 1st rd prospect who some had going before we drafted em, so why not draft em, seeing how its need and value?

                With JPP and Prince, u can kinda see that hes willing to go BPA over need.. Sure, DE and CB could always use replenishments, and thank god we did take Prince and JPP looking at CB and DE on our team right now, but many could of argued other positons were of more dire need at the time of those picks, adn yet we still went with em..

                My point is this.. Theres a reason why i always rave about Jerry Reeses drafts(outside of last yrs), and thats becuase he simply drafts smart.. He isn't afraid to go BPA, but most of the time, figures out how to get good solid value per rd with positons of need.. He simply knows what hes doing and has a good eye for talent..

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                • #23
                  To many the term BPA means best pick available regardless of position. I believe this to be incorrect.

                  Or at least, if is is correct NO team in the NFL drafts that way.

                  The fact is BPA does include need into the equation.
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                  • #24
                    The Giants draft in a combination of what they need and the best player available for what they need. The Giants are not a team that simply goes for the best player on the board when they arent hurting in that position. Giants draft by what they need and or are weak on and then go for the best available according to what they are looking for. They draft very smart!!!!! But they are willing to take chances as well cause they are not afraid to develope talent that is RAW.

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                    • #25
                      Need and BPA aren't exclusive from one another.

                      I'm sure BPA covers several metrics, one of which includes need [both current and impending], as well as personal philosophies on positional value, different analyses and interpretation of the players themselves, compatibility with one's own system, etc. etc.

                      BPA is also relative not just to teams, but to each individual involved in the decisions. I doubt the war room always makes consensus picks, but rather each individual makes a case for who they believe is the best value.

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