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  • #31
    Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
    Was thinking this before Canty got cut, now it seems even more possible. I think we need a DT in the first 2 rounds or in FA because we're very thin at that position right now.

    What do you guys think?
    I'm thinking we're taking a DT and a CB in the first two rounds. Depending who falls where will determine the first pick.

    We have a ton of tackle prospects (McCants, Brewer, Mosely) and our eternal safe guard in Diehl, so I'm not seeing an OT pick early. I'd expect us to grab one of the OG/OT hybrids in the 4th or 5th round.
    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by G-Men Surg. View Post
      You may be right but don't kid yourself, you don't find " NFL ready " plug and play RT and G in later rounds. Not saying the Giants have to go after RT or G in first day but obviously will depend in what they do signing their own FAs or going after FA veterans or if they will continue cutting guys on roster. But if a team decides to fill a G or RT hole thru the draft then you have to go after them early.
      I know both teams in the superbowl's RT's were drafted in the first rd... Davis and McKinnie... Also, Lane Johnson is the exception becasue we can play em at RT and hes great insurance if we lose Beatty down the line to switch over to LT or in case Beatty gets hurt we got someone capable, and Beatty gets hurt alot...

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      • #33
        Seems like half of the Mocks I have seen having us going DT in round 1, so the "experts" are on the same page.

        If Reese has a guy there at DT he really likes he'll grab him if the Grade is High.

        Reese kind of goes BPA, but we have also, in my opinion, grabbed guys high at positions of need. Hakeen Nicks and David Wilson immediately come to mind. JPP and Amukamara were picks where :the Grade was too high we couldn;t pass them up" type picks.

        Depending on what we do in FA, right now I could us grabbing from any of these slots early in the draft:
        OL - G or T
        DT
        LB

        I also think we will nab a RB, a Pass Rusher and will pick at least one Guard. We almost always pick a Guard.

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        • #34
          I'll gladly take Sheldon Richardson in the 1st..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
            I know both teams in the superbowl's RT's were drafted in the first rd... Davis and McKinnie... Also, Lane Johnson is the exception becasue we can play em at RT and hes great insurance if we lose Beatty down the line to switch over to LT or in case Beatty gets hurt we got someone capable, and Beatty gets hurt alot...
            Thats a fact. Draft G and RT in later rounds and you end up with a lot of long term projets and few pan out, obviously there are exceptions but the risk/reward is huge if you miss out. That been said I love Lane and know he has played RT but I truly don't think thats his natural spot and I doubt he could excel playing there in the NFL. But if Beatty walk? I would love him to anchor the blindside of Eli for years to come.
            " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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            • #36
              Personally, I feel that with the 31st ranked Defense they need to focus on that and fix the O line by signing our FAs Beatty, Booth... DT in the first round wouldn't be a bad thing, I could also see a CB or DE. Looking over the draft class there is some excellent CB value that could be picked up in the 2nd or 3rd round. Will be interesting to see how things develop. I could easily get on board with Enigma's draft....

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              • #37
                I'm not big on Richardson i think he is overrated... The guy I think who's stock is going to rise big time is Jesse Williams from Bama. Played a tough SEC schedule and produced for the Tide. He is able to play any technique on the DL so he is versatile. He is the hardest hitting DT in the draft according to the Bleacher Report. He is as good a run stopper as there is in this draft. Thats what the Giants needs a guy who can take on Double teams Williams can do that. And a guy who can get thru them and bring down the runner in the backfield Williams can do that. He is fast enough to play in a 4-3 defense. This guy is said to be running 4.75 40's at 325-330 lbs. He is quick off the ball he just needs some help with his pass rush. Other than that he can take on and break thru double teams, he can collapse the pocket and stuff running backs in their tracks and can play anywhere on the DL.

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                • #38
                  Richardson vs Kentucky I uploaded it today . Larry Warford works him for most of the game




                  The Bengals may release Domata Peko not a pass rusher but would improve the run defense . Probably could be had for minimal guaranteed money. I dont think the Giants like Polynesians we never draft them
                  Last edited by Redeyejedi; 02-08-2013, 07:48 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rawdog550 View Post
                    I'm not big on Richardson i think he is overrated... The guy I think who's stock is going to rise big time is Jesse Williams from Bama. Played a tough SEC schedule and produced for the Tide. He is able to play any technique on the DL so he is versatile. He is the hardest hitting DT in the draft according to the Bleacher Report. He is as good a run stopper as there is in this draft. Thats what the Giants needs a guy who can take on Double teams Williams can do that. And a guy who can get thru them and bring down the runner in the backfield Williams can do that. He is fast enough to play in a 4-3 defense. This guy is said to be running 4.75 40's at 325-330 lbs. He is quick off the ball he just needs some help with his pass rush. Other than that he can take on and break thru double teams, he can collapse the pocket and stuff running backs in their tracks and can play anywhere on the DL.
                    Also a really good fullback in short yardage situations

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                      It was possible then, and its possible now.. I'm a Kawaan Short guy myself.. Big enough and stout enough to stop the run, but also pressures the QB and makes plays in backfield and has a knack for blocking kicks...
                      +1
                      2017 Mock Draft

                      1st: Forrest Lamp, OG Western Kentucky
                      2nd: Caleb Brantley, DT Florida
                      3rd: Gerald Everett, TE South Alabama
                      4th: Dont'a Foreman, RB Texas
                      5th: Damontae Kazee, CB San Diego State
                      6th: KD Cannon, WR Baylor
                      7th: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, LB Tennessee

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sean Montemayor View Post
                        +1
                        I don't think Jerry Reese will draft a guy with a very questionable motor. At least I hope he doesn't.

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                        • #42
                          The need is certainly there, but I don't think you ever want to draft by position because then you end up reaching on players when better talent is available. With that said, this draft is supposedly deep at DT, so this might be a year where need does in fact match up with value

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by juice33s View Post
                            The need is certainly there, but I don't think you ever want to draft by position because then you end up reaching on players when better talent is available. With that said, this draft is supposedly deep at DT, so this might be a year where need does in fact match up with value
                            They have holes all over the defense they will be able to fill a need

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                              They have holes all over the defense they will be able to fill a need
                              lol, sad but true...Give me your top 5 or so bigboard for the Giants/in your opinion best pick imaginable for the Gmen?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                                They have holes all over the defense they will be able to fill a need
                                Truer words have never been Spoken!!!!!! 31st ranked Defense in the NFL!!!!!! They need to address alot of problems. Run Defense,Pass Defense the CB situation is pretty bad not as bad as the Run D though, and LB the Giants still don't have a Solid ILB who can crop back in coverage or play the run and get in there make big plays on the line of scrimage but then again with a run stuffing DT in there who is able to eat up Double teams it makes things easier for the LBer's.

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