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Why does no one want to take a LBer? Alec Ogletree would do WONDERS for this defense

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  • Why does no one want to take a LBer? Alec Ogletree would do WONDERS for this defense



    1:42 mark


    Speed for days, athleticism, excellent tackling fundamentals, not a liability in coverage, can blitz very well, can really LAY THE WOOD, always around the ball.... it would be a dream if we got him...
    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

  • #2
    I for one, hope he is there for our pick at 19! We need REAL LBs on this team for a change.
    That kind of play at 1:48 is what we need!!
    Last edited by Giantslb66; 02-16-2013, 08:47 PM.

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    • #3
      Who is saying they dont want a LB, i have seen a million people on this board say they want Ogletree

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      • #4
        for me, id rather one of the top 3 rated OT if one falls to us, Fisher or Johnson would be awesome imo and our OL would be solid for protecting the edges day 1 considering we re-sign beatty...we will imo. we have brewer tho...so i wouldnt be opposed to a DL 2nd after OT. After DL, LB would be alright I guess. Ogeltree can at least rush the edge some altho if he doesnt have a good DL in front of him, hes gonna be exposed by NFL OL a lot...and he needs to add some to his frame imho as well...i just want the guy who can make the most immediate impact that warrants a selection at the place we select him lol

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        • #5
          and the 1 42 mark, notice the dl kept him clean. when ol get their hands on him, he becomes ineffective

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          • #6
            Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
            and the 1 42 mark, notice the dl kept him clean. when ol get their hands on him, he becomes ineffective
            You can say that about most LBs, That is kind of them m.o. of a DT.

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            • #7
              Linebacker is good, but I agree with Reese's best player available and pass rusher usually trumps as BPA. Our defense is predicated on the pass rush first and foremost. Also, this draft is heavy on linebackers and a solid one will most likely fall to us in the second.

              Also, for an inside linebacker to be real effective you need a good defensive line. Ray Lewis was successful for so long, not only because of his ability but because he had guys like Siragusa to eat up linemen and fullbacks.
              Last edited by Rat_bastich; 02-16-2013, 09:10 PM.

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              • #8
                honestly, hes built like a wr somewhat. he'd be a beast on the edge as a 3-4 pass rushing OLB imo, not really fit for us unless we want to invest some time before using him as a mike...jwill has a lot of ogeltrees skillset

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Giantslb66 View Post
                  You can say that about most LBs, That is kind of them m.o. of a DT.
                  eh i guess...notice not one of the highlites above involves shedding a blocker tho or something really...when OL get on him, he's done. and thats not what u want to be saying about any lb in the nfl...at the nfl level, shedding OL becomes a huge part of the job as a LB unless ur a pass defensive specialist

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                  • #10
                    Because every position on defense has holes. I want a good LB corp but I want a CB that doesn't suck like Webster, or DE's that do something unlike Tuck. We are also thin at DT and no impact covering safeties if Phillips leaves.

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                    • #11
                      i dont watch college ball other than a game here and there... and i'm far from a talent evaluator... but i've been of the opinion for awhile now that we could really use a playmaking potential star at linebacker. we've had some solid guys over the years but never a true star or guy that makes plays every game to help you win.

                      i would love if we got a guy like that in this draft. if this guy has that potential i would love the pick.

                      on the other hand i feel like we've neglected the o-line over the years with beatty being our only high pick on the line. i think the offense is this team's strength and mostly on the arm of eli. we've got receivers, a potential great back... we need the o-line to keep our offense scoring points. so i hope we get o-line, lb or d line in the first 3 rounds.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                        and the 1 42 mark, notice the dl kept him clean. when ol get their hands on him, he becomes ineffective
                        My exact sentiments, and when you look at the DTs on our roster an there most recent performance makes me wonder if we need to get a DT in the draft. In the end I think it would be a mistake to drat for need in the first round. BPA, no matter what. At 19 I like Ogeltree's chances of being our BPA. The best DTs will be gone as well as the top OL and DEs.
                        Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                        • #13
                          You can't say go BPA and take a MLB in the first unless he's a consensus top 10 pick like Luke was. Or McClain.

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                          • #14
                            I am down for Ogletree..

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                            • #15
                              WTF are you talking about? The only thing people talk about is how we should either get a LB or OL in the first.

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